Hi List, Looking for a connection between HAROLD MORGANTHALOR and CLARENCE MORGANTHALOR, SR. Harold would have been born in the early 1900s and Clarence was born sometime earlier or around the same time. His son Clarence, Jr. was born in 1924 in Perry CO. IL. Clarence Sr.was married to NELLIE DAVIS, daughter of JOHN G. DAVIS. Thanks, Nancy Helvey

Hi List, Thank you to all of you who helped me to get my cemeteries straight. I visited Galum Baptist this past summer and could not remember how to get there. I know that it was not far from Mueller Hill Cemetery. Does anyone out there have a listing for the Nine Mile Cemetery? I am interested in the surnames Helvey, Viers, Fulton, West, Davis, Vineyard. Thank you again, Nancy Helvey

To all on the list, I love you all dearly, but please pardon if I don't get lookups back to you as promptly. Everytime there is a "family getogether" type holiday coming up, everyone requests more lookups and I am swamped right now. And with our beautiful (aka abnormal) weather up here in Minnesota, it is hard to stay indoors and look at cemetery books. LOL. But I am working on requests as fast as I can...just bear with me. Chris Sharpe

Hi List, Searching for information on SARAH HELVEY who died in Perry CO. IL on February 8, 1880. She was 28 years old (so she would have been born ca. 1852) and died in childbirth with complications from pneumonia. I don't know if Helvey is her married name or not. Thanks, Nancy Helvey

Hello List, Does anyone know who this WILLIAM HELVEY is? On the death certificate of MARY A. FRENCH (her dates: Born May 25, 1865 in Perry CO. IL. Died August 7, 1947 in Pinckneyville, Perry CO. IL) in Perry CO. IL her parents are listed as WILLIAM HELVEY and ELINOR A. FRENCH (no birthplaces are listed). William may have been from Reynolds CO. MO. Mary A. French was married to CHARLES C. HELVEY, a son of HENRY HELVEY and SARAH DAVIS. Thanks, Nancy Helvey

Jean, Couldn't stop laughing when I read your replies, both on and off list. Certainly, let's put it behind. And let's not put ANYONE else in a cemetery! Most of us have our hands full studying the ones that are already there! Best Regards, Cathey

In a message dated 11/13/99 3:19:04 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << anyway....am glad you enjoy the site...and even "gladder" that you FINALLY found the cemetery!!! :) i would welcome any contributions you would like to add to it also! >> ======== gads!!!!! will someone tape my fingers together!!!! seems i just CAN"T say what i am meaning today!!! after reading THIS again...it SOUNDS LIKE i want to put Cathy in the cemetery!!!! Cathy....i DO NOT HATE YOU!! i DO NOT want to put you in a cemetery!!! nor do i want you to put anyone else in a cemetery!!!! can't believe i wrote that!!!! :( <mumble..mumble..i KNEW i shoulda stayed awake in English class...> jean

In a message dated 11/13/99 12:29:06 PM Central Standard Time, Cathey1229 writes: << Anyway, sorry to offend >> Cathy... ..lol..you didn't offend me...and i apologize if my reply came off that you did! think thats just another of the problems we all encounter here on this machine...our "words" just can't convey what/how we are REALLY reacting to something! plain ol' black ink and words on a screen just don't catch it!! :) anyway....am glad you enjoy the site...and even "gladder" that you FINALLY found the cemetery!!! :) i would welcome any contributions you would like to add to it also! happy hunting! Jean [email protected] ALHN Perry Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilperr/index.html">Perry ALHN</A> ALHN Monroe Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilmonr/">Monroe ALHN</A>

Researching: Eaton, Haggard, Groves, Smith, Gladson, Killingsworth Jean, Yes, it is your site- and an excellent one it is, too. I have enjoyed much on the site. However, my Dad and I are not extremely direction-impaired, and, yes we did have trouble finding the cemetery because we were using the car odometer and a map of the township range system and trying to get closer to the area of an approx. 4 mile mark. At first we did not notice Galum because the other two cemeteries are more noticeable and when we looked at our odometer we decided these two cemeteries were not far enough to be correct, so didn't spend much time in that area. We had limited time, and I, unfortunately was not familiar with the area. Anyway, sorry to offend. I'm sure I should have said something to you before mentioning our little fiasco on the list. We never for a moment thought it reflected on your abilities. Actually, it ended up being amusing to us- after it was over. Cathey

In a message dated 11/13/99 8:13:30 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Warning: there is a very good website out with a listing of Galum Cemetery. It gives similar directions but states that the Cemetery is about 4 miles past the intersection of the two highways. My Dad and I spent an hour going up and down 154, counting off 4 miles and straining for the sight of a cemetery! There was none. >> +++++++++++++++++ Cathy ..... ...for "some reason" i feel the website in mind is MINE.. :( and i DO apologize for not WALKING the distance to be EXACT in its location!!!! In the directions i give....which i though were pretty clear....i said approximately....and that was WRONG of me to do...next time i will be more exacting! it IS VERY CLEARLY SEEN from the highway tho...and if you traveled up and down the road several times....???? didn't i mention that it was "nestled back in the corner"?? oh well....long as ya found it! :) the wording on the plaque of the stone marker reads: Site of the Galum Baptist Church organized 1843 - disbanded 1967 one of the charter members of the 9-mile Baptist Association. Jean [email protected] ALHN Perry Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilperr/index.html">Perry ALHN</A> ALHN Monroe Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilmonr/">Monroe ALHN</A>

It just occurred to me that my directions to Galum Baptist Cemetery needed to be a little clearer. The directions I gave assume that you are entering the county on Hwy 154 from the western edge and traveling east. Going that direction start counting off 2.5 to 2.7 miles from the point where you intersect Hwy 150. If you do this you should see the cemeteries and large white house (on left) just as I said. Galum Cemetery is on the same side as the house and just after it. Warning: there is a very good website out with a listing of Galum Cemetery. It gives similar directions but states that the Cemetery is about 4 miles past the intersection of the two highways. My Dad and I spent an hour going up and down 154, counting off 4 miles and straining for the sight of a cemetery! There was none. A helpful neighbor even sent us off to Galum Presbyterian Cemetery which is miles away. DO NOT FALL FOR THAT ONE- they are not the same cemetery! We found the cemetery by accident, when, in total frustration, we stopped at the aforementioned large white house to beg direction. No one answered but I happened to glance to the side of the house and see another little cemetery (there is one on each side of the house). Without much hope we went to look at it anyway and the rest is history (well, at least it's a story my Dad and I will tell for a while!) Cathey

Nancy, No, they are not the same. I have relatives at both and visited both cemeteries back in September. Galum Baptist is just off Hwy 154 (visible from the road), about 2.5 miles after 154 intersects with Hwy 150, in the western section of the county. There are two other, slightly more visible, cemeteries in the same area and then Galum on the left side of the road, after a large white frame house (when you see -and smell- the pig farm, you have just passed it!) I will have to ask my father how we got to Nine Mile- it is now surrounded by old mining sites and he said the roads were often changed that got you to the cemetery. If someone else does not answer first, I will see if I can get him to. He and my Mom subscribe to this list in digest form and I may be able to get him to reply. Hope this helps, Cathey

Hi List, Could someone tell me if Nine Mile Baptist Cemetery and Galum Baptist Cemetery are the same cemetery? Nancy Helvey

DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON FRANCIS RUTH WEST. SHE WAS MARRIED TO THOMAS ALBERT HELVEY. sHE WAS BORN ABOUT A MILE, EAST OF MILLER HILL CEMETERY. don

Hi, Forgot the dates for Thomas E. Helvey. Born April 13, 1877 in Pinckneyville, IL. Died Oct. 20, 1974 in Pinckneyville, IL. I don't have the dates for the other family members. Nancy Helvey

Hello, I am searching for information about a THOMAS E. HELVEY (prob. known as DEACON HELVEY). He married ELIZABETH CHILTON and they were the parents of GLEN HELVEY, RUTH HELVEY, OPAL HELVEY, and CARL HELVEY. Family lived in Mt. Vernon, IL and Pinckneyville, IL. GLEN had these children: Esta Grace, William, Cecilia, and Kay. CARL had these children: Karen and Jill. Thomas E. Helvey worked for the railroad. Thanks, Nancy Helvey

Hello List, Since it is almost Veteran's Day I thought it might be nice to try to locate the family of a LLOYD KELLY/KELLEY who served in WW2. Lloyd was the best friend of my father RAYMOND HELVEY of Pinckneyville who served in the US NAVY aboard the battleship USS TENNESSEE. Lloyd was from P'Ville also. While I'm on the subject, here is a "letter to the Editor" from a P'Ville newspaper sent from my dad and a EDWIN E. ZIPPRODT to a "Matt" who was probably an editor/columnist. Dear Matt: I suppose you are wondering who this could be from? Well Matt, at one time I lived in Pinckneyville and was there long enough that I feel it is a good city. I have written letters before to you, but haven't mailed them. Helvey said, "This one must go." Helvey, a very good friend of mine, who is in the same division also receives your paper, and we enjoy it to the fullest extent, especially the service men's news. We just finished reading Woodie Herrmanny and others in your column. Helvey and I have been together for a year now, and around plenty. I'm not allowed to say where we are going, but can say we are fine and keeping ourselves busy. I am in charge of the Ship's Store and Helvey in charge of General Store Keeping (GSK). We are both kept very busy of the time. Matt, I know you are busy too, so I won't take any more of your valuable time. We just wanted to say we really enjoy your paper and know it sure builds up our moral. Matt, keep up the good work, and the fellows aboard ship sure do enjoy your paper. Sincerely, Raymond L. Helvey. Edwin E. Zipprodt. NOTE: Zip, we remember you and want to say our time is never too full but we can enjoy swell letters such as yours and Helvey's. Matt.

For those of you that had relatives in WW2, please check out this site as it has a direct bearing on all veterans of WW2 and you may wish to honor them by participating. Fred http://www.wal-mart.com/stores/ww2mem/ww2.html

...just a note....have added a bit more to the Monroe County Illinois site... the E-F-G & H sections of deaths ... Moore Cemetery .... Bio on J.H. Wilson ..... La Belle Fonataine and a rooster on a church. Check it out! :) Jean [email protected] ALHN Perry Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilperr/index.html">Perry ALHN</A> ALHN Monroe Co. IL <A HREF="http://www.usgennet.org/~ahilmonr/">Monroe ALHN</A>

I am looking for any and all info on Nancy Faughn who married Hila Jordan Gilliam. Can't find them in the marriages indexed in the Ill Marriage registry. Their grandson, Neal Gilliam married Susan Janet Davis Qualls. I know Gilliam/Qualls marriage date. Thanks, Bonnie Wms.