Is anyone else on this list having problems with the Perry County web page crashing? When I go to the web page at: http://www.iltrails.org/perry/ everything works fine until I try to go back to the previous page or return to the home page. When I do that, Internet Explorer comes up with an error screen and I have to close it. I then have to re-open Internet Explorer and go through the process of going to the Perry Co. web page again. This is only happening to me on this web page. At first I thought it might have something to do with the background music, because when they recently changed the song the problem seemed to go away. However, it is still doing it, but not as often as before. Ken Soper

Thanks to everyone that responded to my request for the location of the Primitive Baptist Cemetery. Does anyone on this list have access to a 1900 or 1910 census index for Perry Co.? If so, I am trying to locate a SMITH (first name unknown) with a wife named Sarah Ellen. Her maiden name is Sarah Ellen EUBANKS and she was born about 1865 in Franklin Co., IL. According to the list of deaths on the Perry Co. web page, she died in Perry Co. on Jan. 2, 1929. It also shows her parents as Willis Eubanks & Sarah Hammond (my g.g.grandparents). Sarah is the younger sister of my g.grandmother, Mary Logan Eubanks Soper, and I am trying to track down any information on Sarah and her family. Naturally, she had to pick someone to marry with a name like Smith. Thanks, Ken Soper Apple Valley, CA

Can someone on this list please tell me the location of the Primitive Baptist Cemetery? It may also be known as the Old DuQuoin Cemetery. If it is now refered to as the Old DuQuoin Cem. then I believe I have been there if it is the one on the north side of the old highway 152 just west of Old DuQuoin. Thanks Ken Soper

...the kids are back in school, vacations are over and schedules are being lined up again...LETS GET BACK TO GENEALOGY!! :) Many many thanks to Karen, Shawn, Jean, Janet, Eileen, & Stella, your help is greatly appreciated by all!!! my sites have been updated and spidered, see listings below: Jean [email protected] Coordinator for: Perry Co. ILLinois http://www.iltrails.org/perry/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/perry/">http://www.iltrails.org/perry/</A> Rees/e gravestones.........NEW!!! Bios..........................UPDATED!!! Births ( H, K, M & R)...UPDATED!!! Deaths....all.............UPDATED!!! Marriages.....all......UPDATED!!!! 1850 Census...(partial)....NEW!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Kaskaskia, ILLinois http://www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/">www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/</A> Queries..............UPDATED!!! Liberty Bell of the West.....NEW!!!! Garrison Cemetery pics....NEW!!! 1830 Census..................NEW!!! 1700's Marriages.........UPDATED!!! Ft. de Chartres Events....NEW!!! Bits'n Pieces...............NEW!!!! Ft. Gage/Kaskaskia History....NEW!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Monroe Co. ILLinois http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/Index.html">www.iltrails.org/monroe/< /A> Marriages...groom A,B & C....UPDATED!!! Bride..................all..........UPDATED!!! 1860 Census.............UPDATED!!! 1919 St. Patricks Contributors.....NEW!!! Tipton early settlers 1838-40......NEW!!! Tipton early settlers 1840-50.....NEW!!! Deaths....U & V...............NEW!!!!

More on the Robinson family. William Robinson was born in 1880 after the census cutoff and in 1900 he was living with the Thomas Penwarden family in Paradise Precinct. I am confident that John and Nancy Caroline Robinson were his parents. They were in Perry Co. until after 1895, but had moved just east of Carterville by 1900. William resided at Carterville in 1903 when he married Mary Minerva Smothers. They divorced in 1907 and he was in Washington Co. when the divorce papers were served. But the proceedings stated that he had been working at Sunfield and Belle Junction. John Robinson died in Williamson Co. in 1904, but he was buried at Nine Mile Cemetery northwest of Sunfield. There is a grave there for Nancy Caroline who died in 1915, but John's grave hasn't been found. (Nancy)Caroline is listed in the 1910 census there in Perry Co. with her daughter and son in law, James Terry. I have not been able to find James and Martha Terry or William Robinson anywhere in the 1920 soundex or census. Any help, ideas or leads would be appreciated, Bob Jones

Greetings Researchers: I'm researching the MIDDLETON families of Perry Co. Think they had land as early as 1817. Middletons are also in Washington, St.Claire, and Clinton counties. Robert J. Middleton Box 1114 Ladysmith, Vancouver Island BC Canada V9G 1A8 Phone (250) 245-5643 email [email protected] Washington County IL ILGenWeb Co-ordinator Washington County IL Mail List Washington County IL Web Page http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:42:31 -0600 From: Nancy Helvey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [ILPERRY] Hutchings family Hi List, Does anyone have the genealogy of the Hutchings family of Perry CO. IL? Thanks, Nancy Helvey +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nancy, You will find the Richard HUTCHINGS family in the 1830 Washington County census. Robert J. Middleton Box 1114 Ladysmith, Vancouver Island BC Canada V9G 1A8 Phone (250) 245-5643 email [email protected] Washington County IL ILGenWeb Co-ordinator Washington County IL Mail List Washington County IL Web Page http://mypage.direct.ca/m/mid/northam.html

I really could use some help on the John Robinson family. They lived near Sunfield from before 1880 to 1895 and then moved to Williamson Co. John died in 1904 and was buried in Nine Mile Cemetery. His wife, Nancy Caroline, died in 1915 and is buried there also. I really need information on William, born June, 1880. He was living in the Paradise District in 1900 with a Penwarden family. Here are the Robinson children: 1 John Robinson 1847 - 1904 . +Nancy Caroline Lewis 1850 - 1915 ........ 2 George Robinson 1869 - ............ +Della Brayfield 1871 - ........ 2 Martha J. Robinson 1873 - ............ +James Terry 1867 - ........ 2 Delila Robinson 1874 - ............ +James Durkin 1870 - 1939 ........ 2 Thomas Robinson 1877 - ............ +Gertrude Boyd 1880 - ........ 2 James Marion Robinson 1878 - 1880 ........ 2 William Robinson 1880 - ............ +Mary Minerva SMOTHERS 1885 - 1970 ........ 2 Samuel E. Robinson 1883 - 1912 ............ +Ida Woods 1886 - ........ 2 James F. Robinson 1886 - 1911 ............ +Julia Boyd 1881 - ........ 2 Sarah Lucinda Robinson 1889 - ............ +George Eldridge Bailey 1881 - ........ 2 Harry Robinson 1893 - Bob Jones

I would be interested to find further information on the VOLMER and BLATTER surnames. Rozine Katharine BLATTER VOLMER who passed away either on 22 December 1932, 29 Dec 1932, or 29 Dec 1931. Her name has also been spelled Rosma Catherine BLATTER VOLMER, Rosina Catharine BLATTER VOLMER, Catherine Rosine BLATTER VOLMER, and Rosa Rosina Catherine BLATTER VOLMER. She was born 23 July 1867 in New Athens, St. Clair, IL. She and her husand, William Lincoln VOLMER were married 8 Mar 1885 and moved to Ammon, Bonneville, ID. William Lincoln VOLMER passed away 15 Jan 1943 in Pickneyville, Perry, IL. I have a copy of his death record. He was born 22 Sept 1860 in Perry county, IL. His wife passed away 10-11 years earlier in ID and as his son, John Volmer, lived in Ammon, Bonneville, ID. Many thanks, Cherlynn Thomas This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of J.P. Morgan & Co. Incorporated, its subsidiaries and affiliates.

John Volmer, born between 1825 and 1840, location unknown, died August 1864, most likely in IL. He married Mary Ann Reidelberger Jul 27, 1857 in Chester, Randolph Co., IL. Mary was born Mar 18, 1839 in Monroe Co., IL. They had three (known) children: Anna, b. 8/5/1858 William, b. 9/22/1860 Margaret, b. 11/1862 Mary Ann Reidelberger went on to marry James Redfern (my g-g-grandfather) in 1866. "Cherlynn B Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > I would be interested to find further information on the VOLMER and BLATTER > surnames. > > Rozine Katharine BLATTER VOLMER who passed away > either on 22 December 1932, 29 Dec 1932, or 29 Dec 1931. Her name has also been > spelled Rosma Catherine BLATTER VOLMER, Rosina > Catharine BLATTER VOLMER, Catherine Rosine BLATTER VOLMER, and Rosa Rosina > Catherine BLATTER VOLMER. She was born 23 July > 1867 in New Athens, St. Clair, IL. She and her husand, William Lincoln VOLMER > were married 8 Mar 1885 and moved to Ammon, Bonneville, ID. > William Lincoln VOLMER passed away 15 Jan 1943 in Pickneyville, Perry, IL. I > have a copy of his death record. He was born 22 Sept 1860 in Perry > county, IL. His wife passed away 10-11 years earlier in ID and as his son, John > Volmer, lived in Ammon, Bonneville, ID. > > Many thanks, > Cherlynn Thomas > ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Hi List, Does anyone have the genealogy of the Hutchings family of Perry CO. IL? Thanks, Nancy Helvey

Would anyone know if either or both the Perry County Advocate and Perry County Democrat have e-mail addresses. Would appreciate this information. My Father and Uncle owned the Democrat years and years ago and my Uncle later owned the Advocate. [email protected] WebSite {http://www.dr-fox.com}

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Hi List, While going through the 1850 census for Perry CO. I noticed many folks who were from South Carolina. Does anyone have any idea if these folks came from the same areas in SC? Thanks in advance, Nancy Helvey

My maternal lines converge on Illinois following emigration from Europe. The first place of record (where the families were coal miners) is in Jackson County 1873-abt. 1890 (SORGMANN & KORDT)[naturalization papers filed here] The next place they moved to was to Perry Co., IL where my grandfather was born in 1893 Ignatius Joseph SORGMANN, son of Mathias SORGMANN & Mary KORDT SORGMANN (the father appears to have been a traveling salesman/retired coal miner and mother Mary worked as a cook at a Catholic hospital). Finally, I find the last days for many of them to be where my maternal line [VALTA/WALTA] is located: Belleville, St. Clair County by the time of the 1900 census. I think the whole crew of children were married there, and they just might be buried there as well! Looking for more relatives! My maternal great grandfather was Mathias "Matthew" SORGMANN (b. 1857 Austria- d. 1959 St. Clair Co., IL); emigrated abt. 1870 to Illinois and received his naturalization papers in Jackson County, IL 1887. There he married into another immigrant family by the name of KORDT(aka CORT). He married Mary, daughter of William & Catarina, and she was born 1871 in Essen, Westfalia. I have her father's naturalization papers, along with friend Henry BORGSMILLER April 1892 in Jackson County. Children of MATHIAS SORGMANN and MARY KORDT are: 2. i. WILLIAM3 SORGMANN, b. June 1888, Illinois; d. November 26, 1918, Mt. Vernon, IL. ii. MATHIAS F. SORGMANN, JR., b. October 1892, Illinois7; d. August 12, 1953, Detroit, Michigan. iii. FRANK J. SORGMANN, b. January 1890, Illinois7; d. Aft. 1929, California. 3. iv. ANNA SORGMANN, b. July 1895, Illinois. v. JOSEPH FERDINAND SORGMANN, b. March 06, 1906, Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL8; d. July 1979, Belleville, St. Clair county, Illinois. vi. VERONICA SORGMANN, d. Bef. 1953. 4. vii. IGNATIUS JOSEPH SORGMANN, b. September 03, 1893, DuQuoin, IL (Perry Co.); d. December 21, 1954, Long Beach, California. viii. GERTRUDE SORGMANN, b. February 1890, Illinois9; d. December 06, 1943; m. FRED "FRITZ" A. PATIENT. ix. FRANCES SORGMANN, b. August 10, 1911, Belleville, IL10; d. January 17, 1920, Belleville, IL11. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM3 SORGMANN (MATHIAS (MATHEW)2, VINCENT1) was born June 1888 in Illinois12, and died November 26, 1918 in Mt. Vernon, IL13. He married CARRIE M. STEPHENS October 11, 1912 in St. Louis, Missouri14. Children of WILLIAM SORGMANN and CARRIE STEPHENS are: 5. i. WILLIAM MATTHEW4 SORGMANN, b. June 15, 1914, Mount Vernon, IL; d. January 07, 1992, Tamaroa, ?. ii. VERONICA SORGMANN. iii. LEO JOSEPH SORGMANN, b. April 12, 1917, Mount Vernon, IL15. Today I received Social Security application information on the following: Joseph Ferdinand SORGMANN, son of Mathias Sorgmann & Mary Cort; b. 3/6/1906 Belleville St. Clair Co., IL; died 1979 Belleville, St. Clair Co., IL William Mathew SORGMANN [son of William son of Mathias & Mary]; b. 6/15/1914 Mount Vernon, IL; married to Carrie STEPHENS in Mt. Vernon; he died 1992 and is buried in Belleville, IL[children known: William Jr., Richard, Wilma] Leo Joseph SORGMANN, b. 4/12/1917; son of William & Mary (KORT) SORGMANN IN Mt. Vernon, IL; brother of William Mathew Sorgmann; no further information Karen Souhrada [email protected] Researching: Pennsylvania:..HAGERTY, ROBSON, ATCHESON,MC ALISTER, GEHO, WILLIAMS, BLANEY, MCCLUGAGE, HUDSON, JOBES Illinois.......HAMMANG, KOUDELKA, LIDISKY, SORGMANN, SOUHRADA, VALTA, VOPICKA

I have updated my Perry and Monroe county sites... details below. Many thanks Stella, Jean and Susan!!! Check it out! Perry: http://www.iltrails.org/perry/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/perry/">http://www.iltrails.org/perry/</A> 1850 Mortality schedule..... NEW!!! Deaths ....UPDATED!!! Births....UPDATED!!! Rees/e Headstone pictures...NEW!!! Monroe: http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/Index.html">www.iltrails.org/monroe/< /A> 1860 Census...UPDATED!!! Jean [email protected] Coordinator for: Perry Co. ILLinois <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/perry/">http://www.iltrails.org/perry/</A> Kaskaskia, ILLinois <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/">www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/</A> Monroe Co. ILLinois <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/Index.html">www.iltrails.org/monroe/< /A>

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Hi List, Looking for information concerning these marriages: James Davis married Penelope Stilley Dec. 9, 1830 in PCI. John Davis married Martha A. Stilley Dec. 24, 1856 in PCI. Thanks, Nancy Helvey

....updates to Monroe County IL & Kaskaskia IL are listed below... many thanks for the contributed articles from Jean S. & Charly.... ...your hard work is appreciated by all!!!! Check it out!! :) Jean [email protected] Monroe county: http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/monroe/Index.html">www.iltrails.org/monroe/< /A> Queries ....updated!! Bios.......updated!! Deaths...(P,Q,R, S & T)...NEW!!! History of Hecker....NEW!!! Ditch's Tavern....NEW!!! 1860 Census index...(partial)...re-formatted and updated...all new names!!! (yes, the previous WILL be re-added...Jean is typing as fast as she can! :) Kaskaskia: http://www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/ <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/">www.iltrails.org/kaskaskia/</A> Queries.....updated!! Bond Duel.....NEW!!! "Dit" names defined....NEW!!! Perry county will be updated later this week...!! <A HREF="http://www.iltrails.org/perry/">http://www.iltrails.org/perry/</A>