Just as a general reply to this, when you are looking for the location of a place go to http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form And search for the place you are seeking. When you get a response, you will also get an option to display a map of the area in two or three forms. You can manipulate the maps to see whatever you want to see. Busy maps can get confusing but generally this is useful. This works for most place names. Cheryl Rothwell logancty@mindspring.com Logan County, IL, Coordinator, ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al