In a message dated 98-05-13 22:30:40 EDT, you write: << Hi Roger, I would love to know about any Poffenberger, Malone that might be listed. And I'm trying to get that Malone file sent to you. Do you have Family Tree Maker? Jeannie >> Hi Jeannie, Here is what it says about James Malone. He was one of the pioneers of Ogle Co. in 1843. He was born in Washington Co., MD on March 8, 1817. His father, James Malone, Sr. was also a native of that county as well as his wife Susan Albert. James Malone came to this county with the Samuel Hitt colony. On February 8, 1844, he married Ellen Patterson, born in County Down, Ireland on April 16, 1819, a daughter of John and Margaret Patterson who came to America in 1826 settling in Washington Co., MD. John Patterson was a weaver and he and his wife came to Leaf River Twp. in 1843 where they resided until his death on October 13, 1855 and hers on December 22, 1872. Their two children were Ellen Patterson Malone and her brother James Patterson who died in Leaf River Twp. in his 37th year. Ellen and James Malone had 3 children, Kate, a widow of James K. Wilson, Mary, wife of Marcus Hess, resident of Leaf River Twp., and Alfred, also of Leaf River Twp. There is a lot of items in this book about former residents but unfortunately it is not indexed. There is more on the Patterson family if you are interested. I would have to read the book more carefully to see if there is anything on the Poffenberger family. Yes, I have FTM so would like to recieve your gedcom. I haven't done much with gedcoms but would like to try. Roger Cramer

Dear Doneva, For information on how Ogle got it's name go to: http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~office/ogle/media.htm and for information on the Ogle family go to: http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimbridg/ogle.htm Kathy - Ogle County GenWeb Host http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle Doneva Shepard wrote: > > Can I ask how OGLE county, IL got it's name? > Anybody know? > > Doneva Shepard > Lincoln City, OR

Dear Brian and all, I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I must let you know that posting information taken directly from the census, marriage records, cemetery records, etc... is not allowed. This information is sold by the genealogy society and is their only real way of making money. They have the rights to this. At the "Lookups and Researchers" page of my Ogle County site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/lookups.htm I have people who do free look ups, but they only answer questions, they do not give out printed information. If someone wants printed information, they must contact the Ogle County Genealogy Society and request it, and of course pay the fee. The society can also be reached from my Ogle County site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/societies.htm If anyone has information and would like to do look ups, you must first go to the "Lookups and Researchers" site, read and agree to the rules set by ILGenWeb, join the Ogle County Genealogy Society (their fee is $5.00 per year), and then let me know and I will add you to the list. These are the rules set by the Ogle County Genealogy Society. And we must respect them. Thank you for your understanding! Kathy - Ogle County GenWeb Host http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle Brian Hulleberg wrote: > > I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. history. For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start posting it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. > > Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? > > Let me know. > > Bryn

Yippee!!! He's MINE!!! He fits comfortably on a branch of my tree!!! How exciting!!! Thank you very much. I've wondered about this for a long time! I don't know if any actual OGLE's migrated to Ogle county, IL but they were related to this man and I am a descendant of those people. Makes me so proud! Doneva -----Original Message----- From: Doc and Kathy <dockathy@essex1.com> To: ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com <ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILOGLE-L] Ogle county info >Dear Doneva, >For information on how Ogle got it's name go to: >http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~office/ogle/media.htm >and for information on the Ogle family go to: >http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimbridg/ogle.htm >Kathy - Ogle County GenWeb Host >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle > >Doneva Shepard wrote: >> >> Can I ask how OGLE county, IL got it's name? >> Anybody know? >> >> Doneva Shepard >> Lincoln City, OR

I'm a newbie so I don't feel like I carry much weight but I vote "aye"! Doneva -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hulleberg <HullebergBE@chq.byu.edu> To: ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com <ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 3:30 PM Subject: [ILOGLE-L] Group information >I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. history. For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start posting it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. > >Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? > >Let me know. > >Bryn

In a message dated 98-05-13 20:19:30 EDT, you write: << Dear Brian and all, I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I must let you know that posting information taken directly from the census, marriage records, cemetery records, etc... is not allowed. This information is sold by the genealogy society and is their only real way of making money. They have the rights to this >> Sorry, but I have a hard time with this. I have researched many census records at the library, read many books, researched cemetery and court house records, etc. and exchanged information on many mailing lists and no one has ever questioned doing this. Census records on microfilm and books are available to anyone at the library. If we are not allowed to exchange what we have learned, this list will not last very long and will be of little value. How can the genealogical society have rights to these public records? I'm a supporter of the Ogle Co. Genealogical Society but cannot agree with this. Roger Cramer

I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. history. For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start posting it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? Let me know. Bryn

I have the 100th Anniversary Book for Leaf River 1882-1982 and would be glad to do look-ups for anyone interested. Roger Cramer

In a message dated 98-05-13 18:28:17 EDT, you write: << I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. history. For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start posting it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? >> Sounds good to me!! Thats what this is all about. Rog

In a message dated 98-05-13 15:28:03 EDT, you write: << Can I ask how OGLE county, IL got it's name? Anybody know? >> Hi, I don't have the details in front of me, but an early settler here was named Ogle. Roger

Ok with me, it can always be filed to a disc and saved for future reference Always, Searching Gail Meyer-Kilgore Casa Grande,AZ Searching: Kilgore, Alexander, Boone, Lassley Searching: Meyer, Kruger, Groen, Nottelmann, DeVries, Remmers, Reints, Hayenga, Frerichs ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* List Host of IAMILLS-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Mills Co. IA Web Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamills/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~* List Host of NEBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Butler Co., NE Web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebutler/index.html

O. K. I think I understand. We can share information we dug up ourselves but not that which we got from published books, etc. Correct? I also think that we can share records privately by email but cannot publish to the entire list. I think I remember this from one of my other mailing lists. I do know that alot of people copy one page from census because their own family was on it and then share the other names on a mailing list. I assume that is O.K. Mary

Gayle, Thanks for your explanation. I was having a very difficult time with this issue. I am so glad you obtained an attorney's opinion. Very sincerely, Linda ---------- > Hi, > > We just went through this on another list and any records over > 70 years old are records for public information. This means > anything that is available out there to the public can be used. > Information in published books can also be used but not the > full context of the book. We had this checked out with an > attorney. Every book that I have or anyone else has and does > look-ups can share their information that is in the book. All > this is doing is sharing what one has and nine times out of ten > we all list our sources and page #'s where the source was > found. > > Every list that I have been on if someone has vital records in > book form they give the information out, the name of the book, > the author, and the page number. You are not putting the whole > book on the list but excerpts of the book that anyone can get > if the go to the library and get it on library loan. I have > even had information sent to me, copies of pages in a > copyrighted book, that pertain to my family that the > information came to me over a list. This is what genealogy is > all about, sharing the information that you have found with > others who are still searching. > > Bryn, I think that if you posted the information that you have > access too and someone wants you to do a lookup in those books > or CD's that would be safer than listing ALL the records and > you an post them to the list so that everyone can see the reply > as this list is set up to reply to the list rather than > replying to the author. The reason for that is to try and > bring everyone into the discussion and keep the list more > interesting rather than replying to the specific person. > > Always, Searching > > Gail Meyer-Kilgore > Casa Grande,AZ > Searching: Kilgore, Alexander, Boone, Lassley > Searching: Meyer, Kruger, Groen, Nottelmann, DeVries, Remmers, > Reints, Hayenga, Frerichs > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > List Host of IAMILLS-L@rootsweb.com > Visit the Mills Co. IA Web Page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamills/ > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > *~* > List Host of NEBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com > Visit the Butler Co., NE Web page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebutler/index.html

So to what purose is the membership to this list? Are you telling us that we can only post info about hearsay, family Bibles, etc. unless we pay the fee? This seems a bit preposterous to me. Is no one to ask about a relative for fear of getting, "Sorry, I have that information but I can't give it out"? As you can see I am having a difficult time trying to understand the thinking here. Anxious to hear, Linda ---------- > Dear Brian and all, > I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I must let you know that > posting information taken directly from the census, marriage > records, cemetery records, etc... is not allowed. This information > is sold by the genealogy society and is their only real way > of making money. They have the rights to this. > At the "Lookups and Researchers" page of my Ogle County site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/lookups.htm > I have people who do free look ups, but they only answer questions, > they do not give out printed information. If someone wants printed > information, they must contact the Ogle County Genealogy Society > and request it, and of course pay the fee. The society can also be > reached from my Ogle County site. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/societies.htm > If anyone has information and would like to do look ups, you must first > go to the "Lookups and Researchers" site, read and agree to the rules > set by ILGenWeb, join the Ogle County Genealogy Society (their fee is > $5.00 per year), and then let me know and I will add you to the list. > These are the rules set by the Ogle County Genealogy Society. And we > must respect them. > Thank you for your understanding! > Kathy - Ogle County GenWeb Host > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle > > Brian Hulleberg wrote: > > > > I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. > history. For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start > posting it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. > > > > Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? > > > > Let me know. > > > > Bryn

In a message dated 98-05-13 19:25:11 EDT, you write: << o: ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com Dear Brian and all, I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I must let you know that posting information taken directly from the census, marriage records, cemetery records, etc... is not allowed. This information is sold by the genealogy society and is their only real way of making money. They have the rights to this. At the "Lookups and Researchers" page of my Ogle County site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/lookups.htm I have people who do free look ups, but they only answer questions, they do not give out printed information. If someone wants printed information, they must contact the Ogle County Genealogy Society and request it, and of course pay the fee. The society can also be reached from my Ogle County site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle/societies.htm If anyone has information and would like to do look ups, you must first go to the "Lookups and Researchers" site, read and agree to the rules set by ILGenWeb, join the Ogle County Genealogy Society (their fee is $5.00 per year), and then let me know and I will add you to the list. These are the rules set by the Ogle County Genealogy Society. And we must respect them. Thank you for your understanding! Kathy - Ogle County GenWeb Host http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilogle I'm new to this list but a little confused. On every other list I'm on, people offer to share census records, marriage records, death records, info from books,etc. If I do the hard work of copying census records here in Virginia on Ogle County, why can't I share them with others on the list? This is how it is done on every other list I've ever participated on. I understand your need to make money, but why would someone be prohibited from sharing the work that they did with others? I'm not "flaming" just trying to understand because I've never heard of this and I've been on as many as 10 different lists at different times. Mary Allen Roanoke, VA

Bryn, Please, please, please begin posting your info. We are on a list for my husband's surname and it has been invaluable. We enjoy reading the info about people that aren't even related Linda ---------- > I have been gathering lots if information about the people in Ogle Co. history. > For example, Census records, marriage records. i would like to start posting > it to this list. Is has a ton of valuable information for people. > > Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? > > Let me know. > > Bryn

In a message dated 5/13/98 3:28:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, HullebergBE@chq.byu.edu writes: > Would it be okay to start doing that? Or would it be too much? > > Let me know. > > Bryn NO!! It wont be too much!! IT will be very valuable ... at least for me! :) Jason

Gail, A note for you, I used to work in Dixon IL, (Lee county). You probably know Dixon is right by Pine Creek. I used to have a lady named Helen Remmers come in the bank all the time. She was a great lady and we built a good friendship. You may want to give her a call. She knows so much about the Remmers and so forth. You may want to give it a try. She may be deceased by now. But hopefully not. She was determined to live a long long life, and at that time she was doing a great job. That was about 7 years ago. Bryn >>> <ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com> 5/13/98 1:30:11 PM >>> Never thought about how Ogle Co. got it's name but I bet it has someting to do with the Indians.....and Blackhawk....as Winnebago Co. is after the Winnebago Indians.....White Rock is from the White Rocks, limestone around the area. Interesting question!! Always, Searching Gail Meyer-Kilgore Casa Grande,AZ Searching: Kilgore, Alexander, Boone, Lassley Searching: Meyer, Kruger, Groen, Nottelmann, DeVries, Remmers, Reints, Hayenga ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* List Host of IAMILLS-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Mills Co. IA Web Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamills/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~* List Host of NEBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Butler Co., NE Web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebutler/index.html

I that the name came from a family that was named Ogle. I have seen that family name in the area, but it was quite a while ago. This is not fact, but the family name is fact. Bryn >>> <ILOGLE-L@rootsweb.com> 5/13/98 1:21:13 PM >>> Can I ask how OGLE county, IL got it's name? Anybody know? Doneva Shepard Lincoln City, OR

Bryn, Thanks for the info but I have my Remmers back to my 7th g grandfather and back in Germany. My great grandmother's sister also married a Remmer's and they all connect way back when.....in the 1700's. Always, Searching Gail Meyer-Kilgore Casa Grande,AZ Searching: Kilgore, Alexander, Boone, Lassley Searching: Meyer, Kruger, Groen, Nottelmann, DeVries, Remmers, Reints, Hayenga ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* List Host of IAMILLS-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Mills Co. IA Web Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamills/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~* List Host of NEBUTLER-L@rootsweb.com Visit the Butler Co., NE Web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nebutler/index.html