Hi, friends. Does anyone out there have the year of birth and death, or any biographical information regarding Elder John Ray, a pioneer Baptist minister who lived in Morgan and Cass counties in the 1820's and early 1830's and then moved to Texas? We are gathering information right now which may be used later for a historical marker. Thanks so much for any help that anyone can give. Robert Webb ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Carolyn, Thank you very much for this information. I plan to send a letter off right away. I really appreciate your help. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn b" <cb010147@cfl.rr.com> To: <ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILMORGAN] Vanmeter Romans > Address: > The Illinois Department of Human Services (DHS) - Jacksonville > Developmental Center (Center) > is located at 1201 South Main Street, Jacksonville, Illinois. > > From the Illinois State Archives web site: > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/archives.html > >

I want to thank all of you who responded to my request on Vanmeter Romans. I now have an address to write to, I have his death date, place of death and the name of the cemetery where he is buried. I have been looking for this information for about 3 years and thanks to the very helpful people on this list, I finally have it. Thank you. Rhonda

go to www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/ that page has some on those records online Carol Living in the Past Lane! ----- Original Message ----- From: "iceman70" <iceman70@hal-pc.org> To: <ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: [ILMORGAN] Vanmeter Romans > I was wondering if there is some type of institution for the insane in Jacksonville. I recently received some records that say Vanmeter Romans was insane and in parentheses it says "Jacksonville". Does anyone on the list know of an institution of this type around 1917 and where I might obtain records? > Rhonda > > > ==== ILMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Come search our Morgan County ILGenWeb Pages! We have a > Search Engine to help you find your ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmorgan/morgan.htm > >

Address: The Illinois Department of Human Services (DHS) - Jacksonville Developmental Center (Center) is located at 1201 South Main Street, Jacksonville, Illinois. From the Illinois State Archives web site: http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/archives.html RECORD GROUP 252.000 - JACKSONVILLE MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER The General Assembly provided for the establishment of the first state hospital for the insane in Illinois in 1847. A nine-member board of trustees, named in the original act, was empowered to appoint a superintendent, purchase land, and construct facilities in Jacksonville for the Illinois State Hospital for the Insane (L. 1847, p. 52). The first patient was admitted on November 3, 1851. All patients were to be maintained at state expense. However, patients or their counties were expected to pay for clothing, travel, and incidental expenses. In 1869 the board of trustees was reduced to three members and the newly created Board of State Commissioners of Public Charities was given authority to investigate and report to the Governor on conditions at the hospital (L. 1869, p. 63). As additional hospitals for the insane were established, the state was divided into districts and the Jacksonville institution, renamed as the Illinois Central Hospital for the Insane, assumed primary responsibility for patients from counties of central Illinois (L. 1875, p. 83). The board of trustees was abolished in 1909 when executive and administrative control of all state charitable institutions passed to the newly created Board of Administration. As part of the reorganization the institution was renamed the Jacksonville State Hospital (L. 1909, p. 102). The Civil Administrative Code of 1917 transferred jurisdiction of the hospital to the Department of Public Welfare. For 1944-1974 the hospital participated in a departmental affiliation program for psychiatric nursing which provided instruction in psychiatric nursing to students from general hospital nursing schools. The Psychiatric Nursing Affiliation Program offered two-, three,- and four-month terms of classroom instruction and practical training at Jacksonville State Hospital. In 1961 the Department of Mental Health assumed responsibility for Jacksonville State Hospital and in 1974 expanded the hospital's duties to include treatment for the developmentally disabled (L. 1961, p. 2666). To reflect this change in function the institution's name became the Jacksonville Mental Health and Developmental Center in 1975 (P.A. 79-581, p. 1895). Access to some of these records is restricted according to the provisions of the Mental Health Code and the State Records Act of 1957 as amended. From Sanatoriums Archives at Rootsweb: SANATORIUMS-L Archives From: "Marty" <martycarr@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Sanatoriums] JACKSONVILLE STATE HOSPITAL Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:02:03 -0400 References: <<200307221431.h6MEVnIT027979@mail.rootsweb.com>> I also had an ancestor in Jacksonville. I wrote to the state archives and this is part of the response I received: "The Illinois State Archives does house the Casebooks for patients admitted to these facilities. Unfortunately, all patient records are permanently closed to public inspection under provisions of the Illinois Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Confidentiality Act except by court order. Inquiries and any court orders for access to these records should be directed through the Illinois Department of Human Services." The contact person they sent is: Anne Mahalik, Office of Mental Health, Dept. of Human Services, 160 North LaSalle St., Chicago, Illinois 60601, 312/814-4832. ----- Original Message ----- From: "iceman70" <iceman70@hal-pc.org> To: <ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: [ILMORGAN] Vanmeter Romans > I was wondering if there is some type of institution for the insane in Jacksonville. I recently received some records that say Vanmeter Romans was insane and in parentheses it says "Jacksonville". Does anyone on the list know of an institution of this type around 1917 and where I might obtain records? > Rhonda > > > ==== ILMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Come search our Morgan County ILGenWeb Pages! We have a > Search Engine to help you find your ancestor! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmorgan/morgan.htm > >

Rhonda, There used to be a mental hospital in Jacksonville, but they closed up quite a few years back & I don't know what happened to the records. Hope that somebody else on the list can tell you where they went or if they were destroyed. Good Luck Bobbie

I was wondering if there is some type of institution for the insane in Jacksonville. I recently received some records that say Vanmeter Romans was insane and in parentheses it says "Jacksonville". Does anyone on the list know of an institution of this type around 1917 and where I might obtain records? Rhonda

Dee, This doesn't help specifically with your query, but I have a copy of the Morgan County Family History, 1976, to which someone submitted an article on the descendants of Christoffel Hooglandt of South Holland who came to America in the 1650's, and talks about the Hoagland family of Morgan Co. It mentions descendants living then (1976) in Morgan Co., some of whom might still be living and may be able to assist you. Whoever the writer was, they had a considerable amount of family history info, and perhaps you can track them down using the article. I can scan and email it to you directly if you would like a copy. Juli Claussen Search and Genealogy Services Murphysboro, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: <hoagie20@juno.com> To: <ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:27 PM Subject: [ILMORGAN] Missing HOAGLAND > Dear List, > > Can anyone tell me what happened to George Provine HOAGLAND who was born > Oct. 16, 1870 in Jacksonville, Morgan County, Illinois? Who did he > marry? When and where did he die? > I have search every place I know to look. This is my last hope. Can > anyone help me? > > Thank you in advance. > > Dee in Idahoh > > > ==== ILMORGAN Mailing List ==== > Contribute your Morgan County ancestors Obit; Probate/Will; Deeds; Bible Records; > Photo's; Pensions; any Misc. items to the Morgan Web page or the GenConnect Boards: >

Illinois marriages before 1900 has three George's, no George P, none in Morgan: HOAGLAND, GEORGE FISHER, BERTHA MAY 03/06/1915 003/0599 FRANKLIN HOAGLAND, GEORGE MACDONALD, MARY CATHERINE 09/27/1892 000/0000 00008291 KANE HOAGLAND, GEORGE MORRIS, LOUISE 09/27/1887 00118816 COOK Go to: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriage.html From there you can find other state links. Or just go to Morgan Co GenWeb site. gbyork -- hoagie20@juno.com wrote: Return-Path: <ILMORGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mx19.lax.untd.com (mx19.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.79]) by maildeliver14.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAKDXVDAD2L3U2 for <geobardsley@juno.com> (sender <ILMORGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by mx19.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABAKDXVCA2RHZCA (sender <ILMORGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com>); Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id i3U4RrAf012714; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:27:53 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:27:53 -0600 X-Original-Sender: hoagie20@juno.com Thu Apr 29 22:27:53 2004 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: j61wfclrwqz+UdeqaFxGXda50YUHlUK+Ytx1GPxB3/Vf5ZmhLaKH0A== Old-To: ilmorgan-l@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:27:35 -0600 Message-ID: <20040429.223127.-852655.2.hoagie20@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 3.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: hoagie20@juno.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Resent-Message-ID: <ffI7WC.A.eGD.JXdkAB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4135 X-Loop: ILMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ILMORGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMORGAN] Missing HOAGLAND X-ContentStamp: 3:5:2597935199 Dear List, Can anyone tell me what happened to George Provine HOAGLAND who was born Oct. 16, 1870 in Jacksonville, Morgan County, Illinois? Who did he marry? When and where did he die? I have search every place I know to look. This is my last hope. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance. Dee in Idahoh ==== ILMORGAN Mailing List ==== Contribute your Morgan County ancestors Obit; Probate/Will; Deeds; Bible Records; Photo's; Pensions; any Misc. items to the Morgan Web page or the GenConnect Boards:

I have a picture of the 1939 8th grade class of Lakeview School. The teacher was Miss WILLS. My father Russell WORKMAN, was a member of the class. The other class members were Anna Ruth ROEGGE, Bob GREGORY, Glen LOVEKAMP, and Anna LOVEKAMP. I would like to know about the school if any one has any information. My father lived in Arenzville, Cass county but went to school in Morgan county. Thank You, Vicki Workman Lindell _________________________________________________________________ Mother’s Day is May 9. Make it special with great ideas from the Mother’s Day Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04mothersday.armx

Thank you for the information. I did look at the marriage index for Illinois and found my George's parents listed with the mother's last name spelled differently. That may give me a clue. I will follow it at the LDS Family History Library next time I am there. Thank you so much for responding. Dee in Idaho

Dear List, Can anyone tell me what happened to George Provine HOAGLAND who was born Oct. 16, 1870 in Jacksonville, Morgan County, Illinois? Who did he marry? When and where did he die? I have search every place I know to look. This is my last hope. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance. Dee in Idahoh

Hi kristy, I have a 5"by7"family photo taken by the Clauser Studios in Jacksonville, IL. the photo was mounted on heavy paper board which was used in those days. Do you know what years Clauser was in business? The photo I think, was possibly taken about 1874,of my grandmother.Any info. would be appreciated, From the Show Me State at the Lake of the Ozarks have a great day. Larry L. Elliott

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: rantz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ih.2ADE/1194 Message Board Post: I am looking for more info on a Francis (Frank) Rantz before 1860. He was from France, was born in 1832-5, immigrated in 1848, was a furniture maker, and came to Morgan Co., IL in 1857. I believe he may have lived in Louisiana (possibly New Orleans) when he first immigrated, but have had no luck.

Hi this is my first posting, Does anyone out there have any information on Clauser Photography Studio, located in Jacksonville IL. late 1800's possibly early 1900's. any help would be appreciated. Researching PERRY, KNOUSE, PEDIGO, SWEET, BROWN, LAW From the Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri, have a great day Larry L. Elliott

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALLAN, SCOTT, STURDY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ih.2ADE/1193 Message Board Post: Obit Mrs. Agnes M. Scott Summoned By Death (July 22, 1934) Mother of local resident dies Sunday morning in Miller, Indiana. Word has been recieved here of the death of Mrs. Agnes M. Scott, which occured at 10:00 o'clock Sunday morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. J. Henry Jackson in Miller, Indiana. The remains will be brought to this city for interment. Funeral arraingements will be announced later. Mrs. Scott is survived by two sons, Allen E. Scott of Montgomery, Ala., and Eugene B. Scott of Hobart, Ind.; and two daughters, Miss Zella Scott, 350 West College avenue, and Mrs. J. Henry Jackson of Miller, Ind. She also leaves two brothers and one sister, Robert P. Allan of Riggston and John R. Allan and Mrs. Mary Sturdy both of the Lynnville community. Mrs. Scott was an aunt of Mrs. W. A. Fay of this city.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALLAN, MUTCH, TOMPKINS, MILLION, LEWIS Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ih.2ADE/1192 Message Board Post: Obit Christina Allan Passed Away At Daughters Home (Dec. 9, 1940) Death Occurs Monday Afternoon; Funeral Services to Be Wednesday Mrs. Christina Allan, widow of the late James Allan, passed away at one-forty o'clock Monday afternoon at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Leslie Lewis, seven miles west of Jacksonville. Death followed a brief illness. Christina Olive Mutch was born in Oxford Co., Canada June 29, 1859, a daughter of Alexander and Margaret Mutch. She was united in marriage with Mr. Allan on March 14, 1878. They lived practically all of their married life on the Allen homestead seven and one half miles south west of this city. Mr. Allan passed away August 15, 1931. Four daughters and one son survive. They are: Mrs. S. J. Thompkins of Springfield, Ill., Mrs. Ernest Million of Murrayville, Mrs. Leslie Lewis of west of the city, Mrs. Allan Gordon of Lyle, Minn., James W. Allan, Lynville. There are twenty grandchildren and fifteen great-grandchildren. Also surviving are three brothers and two sisters: John T. Mutch of San Diego; Robert Mutch, Jacksonville; Peter Mutch, Palmyra, Ill.; Mrs. Mary E. Slaughter, Jacksonville, and Mrs. Jennie Parkin of Hampton, Iowa. Mrs. Allan was a member of Wesley Chapel Methodist church and as long as health permited was a faithful and loyal worker in the church and its organizations. Funeral services in her memory will be held Wednsday afternoon at one thirty at the Williamson Funeral Home in charge of Rev. Paul Dubois of Murrayville. Interment will be made in Diamond Grove Cemetery. Obit Allan Funeral Is Held Wednesday Funeral services for Mrs. Christina Allan were held Wednsday afternoon, 1:30 o'clock at the Williamson Funeral home, with Rev. Paul Dubios in charge, assisted by Rev. Gay C. White of Springfield. Mrs. Earl Hemple was the soloist, accompanied by Mrs. G. O. Webster. Floral tributes were cared for by Grace Middleton, Elizabeth Slaughter, Lorraine Allan, Verna Million and Helen Thompkins. Pall Bearers were Howard and Alfred Million, James Allan, Orville and Robert Mutch, Everett Parkin and Leroy Russell. Interment was in Diamond Grove Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALLAN, STURDY, DUNLAP, HOLMES Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ih.2ADE/1191 Message Board Post: Obit Mary Allan Sturdy Summoned by Death (June 9, 1938) Mrs. Mary Allan Sturdy passed away at the home of her daughter Mrs. Scott Holmes, one mile west of Lynnville Thursday evening, at 6:15 o'clock. Mrs. Sturdy's death followed an extended illness. She was born in this county, the daughter of Peter and Jane Dunlap Allan, January 7, 1859. She was united in marriage in this city September 22, 1881, to George Sturdy, who preceded her in death January 13, 1922. She is survived by one daughter, Mrs. Maude Holmes, near Lynnville; three sons, Earl Sturdy of Jacksonville; Lee Sturdy of Murrayville and Clyde Sturdy of Winchester and two brothers, Robert Allan of Riggston and John Allan of Jacksonville. She also leaves seven grandchildren: Mrs. Richard Kempter, Waynsboro, Penn.; Mrs. Walter Sanders, White Hall; Robert Allan Sturdy, Quincy,; Nylene Sturdy, Jacksonville; George Lee Sturdy, Murrayville,; Dickie Sturdy, Winchester; Bob Vernon Holmes, Winchester, and one great grandson Richard Ray, son of Mr. & Mrs. Ray Sanders. Two sons Lloyd M. Sturdy and Allan R. Sturdy and one daughter, Georgia Gibbs preceded their mother in death. Mrs. Sturdy was a member of the Lynnville M. E. church. Jacksonville Journal. Largely attended funeral services were at 2:00 o'clock Sunday afternoon from the Gillham funeral home, in charge of Rev. W. W. Gant assisted by Rev. C. R. Underwood. Music was furnished by Mr. & Mrs. Yates Potter, accompanied by Mrs. Wm. Ranson. The Flowers were cared for by Miss Grace Middleton, Mrs. Zella Scott, Mrs. Mable Lewis, Mrs. Eva Acom, Mrs. W. A. Fay, and Mrs. Edna Mawson. The casket bearers were Floyd and Robert Allan, Charles and Fred German, Charles Schofield, Walter Fearneyhough, Fred Meggison, and Robert Middleton. Interment took place in Diamond Grove Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALLAN, GROVES, MIDDLETON, HEATON Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ih.2ADE/1190 Message Board Post: Obit 14 Aug 1940 John R. Allan Is Called By Death At Residence Of Son Funeral services to be Held Friday afternoon at 3:00 o'clock (August 14, 1940) John R. Allan passed away Wednsday evening at 6:20 C.S.T. after a long illness at the home of his son, J. Floyd Allan, south of the city, with whom he made his home. Mr. Allan was born east of Lynnville July 22, 1862. He was married to Elizabeth Groves July 30, 1885, who preceded him in death several years ago. He is survived by two sons Wm. H. Allan of Lynnville, and J. Floyd Allan, 14 grandchildren and six great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by one daughter, Mrs. Jennie Heaton and the following brothers: James and Robert Allan, Mrs. Margaret Middleton, Mrs. Agnes Scott and Mrs. Mary Sturdy. Funeral services will be held at 3:00 p.m. C.S.T., at the Williamson Funeral Home with burial in Diamond Grove Cemetery. Obit Funeral Servcices for John R. Allan Held Here Friday (Aug 17, 1940) Funeral services for John R. Allan were held Friday afternoon at four o'clock at the Williamson Funeral Home in charge of Rev. Father Andruskevitch. Burial was in Diamond Grove Cemetery. Mrs. Ralph Hutchinson was the organist and the flowers were cared for by Mrs. Scott Holmes, Zella Scott and Grace Middleton. The pall bearers were Clifford Allan, Clarence Ranson, Robert Middleton, Leslie Lewis, Lee Sturdy and R. Atkins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COULTAS, MIDDLETON, GIBBS, MEGGINSON Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ih.2ADE/1189 Message Board Post: Obit June 8, 1924 Mrs. Robt. Middleton is Called by Death Mrs. Nellie Frances Middleton, wife of Robert H. Middleton, died at 1:35 o'clock Friday morning at her home, six miles southwest of the city. She was born near Rigsston, April 21, 1889, a daughter of Elbert and Laura Gibbs Coultas. She was united in marriage with Robert Middleton December 12, 1917. She is survived by her husband, two sons, Robert Harold and Elbert Allan Middleton. She leaves also one sister, Mrs. Fred Megginson of Lynneville community, and one brother Roy Coultas of Riggston. Mrs. Middleton was an active member of the Point Church. Funeral Services will be held at 2:30 o'clock Sunday afternoon at the residence, southwest of the city, with Rev. E. A. Hedges officiating. Burial will be in the Diamond Grove Cemetery. Obit Middleton Funeral Held at Residence Services for the late Mrs. Robert Middleton were held Sunday afternoon at the family residence six miles southwest of Jacksonville, Rev. E. A. Hedges of the West Jacksonville M. E. Circuit officiating. Interment was made in Diamond Grove Cemetery. Music was given by John Lazenby, Mrs. Herbert Mawson, Miss Gertrude Wilson, and W. A. Shumaker, with Mrs. W. K. Ranson as accompanist. The floral tributes were in care of Miss Frances Heaton, Mrs. W. A. Fay, Mrs. Mary E. Myers, Miss Martha Gibbs, Miss Margaret Patterson, and Mrs. May Green. Casket bearers were James Coultas, Wilson Coultas, Albert Coultas, Clyde Sturdy, Floyd Allan and Harold Patterson. (note: buried in Diamond Grove Cemetery on Middleton plot north of road north of Mausoleum, both in Lot 29, Sec. C.)