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    1. [ILMORGAN] Frederick Shore
    2. Kevin Shores
    3. Posted on: Morgan Co. IL Query Page Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Morgan?read=239 Surname: Shore ------------------------- Morgan Co. Another of Fredericks children is David McNair Shore. He was my gr gr grandfather. I have extensive info on his descendants. Would really enjoy sharing info as I have only recently found that he was Fredericks son. Kevin Shores

    07/11/2000 05:23:08
    1. [ILMORGAN] John Ross
    2. Don Gabriel
    3. Posted on: Morgan Co. IL Query Page Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Morgan?read=238 Surname: Ross ------------------------- I'm researching John Ross born December 10, 1799 in Rockingham County, North Carolina and married Mary Bandy(born in Sumner County, Tennessee)on December 8, 1818 in Sumner County, TN. Nancy M. Ross was born November 11, 1829, in Morgan County, Illinois.

    07/09/2000 01:02:51
    1. Re: [ILMORGAN] Re: ILMORGAN-D Digest V00 #170
    2. Juli Claussen & Tim Damian
    3. Mary Lou, Okay, so you say you did get my message telling you that I have FTM 7, etc. Great. I wonder why I got this message that it didn't go through. Oh well. I have been trying to put my McCurleys and Henrys in order yesterday and today. I just need to type a bit more into my FTM files and then I can send them to you. I can accept and send Gedcom files with my program, but I don't think any of the notes or photos will come through. If you can send FTM files, any version, that might work better. I have run into problems with figuring out the Henrys, as I have come across contradictory information in the various documents etc. I hope you or some one else on the list can shed some light on this. If you are interested, I have some nice photos of Susan McCurley and her daughters Ethel and Sylvia, and a family photo with Tom McLamar that includes their son Olin. I grew up in Bethalto, with frequest trips "up home" to the Scottville and Nortonville area with my Grandparents. For the last 22 years I have made the Carbondale, IL area my home. My address: Juli Claussen, 281 Glenn Rd., Murphysboro, IL 62966 phone 618/529-1024 Looking forward to collaborating with you! Juli

    07/08/2000 11:32:33
    1. [ILMORGAN] Re: ILMORGAN-D Digest V00 #170
    2. MARY LOU RIDGEWAY
    3. Hi, Julie, Can't think what the problem is, since I got the first message from you directly. I didn't even see this message until I read Ralph Sheppard's response to you and read it in his message. I wonder if you have received anything I've sent you. I did have some filters up to prevent SPAM, but since I now complain about those instead of avoiding them, I just did away with the filters. Anyhoot, you can try [email protected] (but this one doesn't take attachments, if you were to send any). Or, I just recently set up another mailbox with Yahoo to see if that would help prevent some of the spam. This addy is [email protected] and it does accept attachments. Does your older version of FTM allow import of GEDCOM files? I can send you one with everything I have from George W. & Susan to today, if you would like. Funny, not only was I in Nortonville last weekend, I was also in the general area the weekend before hunting up an old Henry Cemetery in the middle of a cornfield. Well, let me know if you get this. In the meantime, I'm going to try to call both you and Janie this weekend, just so we can hear each other's voices. Talk to you later. Mary Lou >I'm so sorry to use the list to do this, but twice now when I've tried to email you back, Mary Lou, about our Henry and McCurley lines, it gets returned with, "data format error" and something about a spam network. I think your email provider thinks I am "junk mail" and is screening me out, so I cannot contact you directly. Can you give me another email address to reach you, or check with your email provider on this? In the meantime, if you send me your address and or phone, I can use that to communicate with you! Thanks, Juli Claussen<

    07/08/2000 07:05:02
    1. [ILMORGAN] Jane Criswell McCurley
    2. Juli Claussen & Tim Damian
    3. Hi, With all this talk about McCurleys lately, I thought it might be helpful to someone if I posted the following death record I recently transcribed from LDS microfilm of Jane Criswell McCurley, wife of Ezekial McCurley of Youngblood (Nortonville) area. >From Morgan Co. IL Death Records, Book 1, # 1197: Jane McCurley Date of report: Dec. 12, 1881 Farmers wife Age 72 yrs, 9 mos, 25 days Died Oct. 24, 1881, 4 a.m. Married Born in Giles County, Tennessee Resident of Illinois for 55 yrs Place of death---Franklin Precinct, Illinois Cause of death---typhoid fever, of 18 days duration Buried Youngblood on Oct. 25, 1881 Undertaker was William A. Clark of Scottville Dr. W. B. Dalton of Scottville ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Juli Claussen (desc. of Jane & Ezekial McCurley through their dau. Susan Catherine and her first husb. George W. Henry)

    07/07/2000 02:55:55
    1. [ILMORGAN] To Mary Lou Ridgeway
    2. Juli Claussen & Tim Damian
    3. I'm so sorry to use the list to do this, but twice now when I've tried to email you back, Mary Lou, about our Henry and McCurley lines, it gets returned with, "data format error" and something about a spam network. I think your email provider thinks I am "junk mail" and is screening me out, so I cannot contact you directly. Can you give me another email address to reach you, or check with your email provider on this? In the meantime, if you send me your address and or phone, I can use that to communicate with you! Thanks, Juli Claussen

    07/07/2000 07:17:14
    1. [ILMORGAN] Joy Prairie
    2. Juli Claussen
    3. Posted on: Morgan Co. IL Query Page Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Morgan?read=237 Surname: Joy ------------------------- Billy, there is a great deal of detailed info on this family and Joy Prairie in the book, MORGAN COUNTY FAMILY HISTORY, 1976, by the Morgan Co. Bicentenniel Committee, 1977, Taylor Pub. Co. There are more than 2 pages on them. It says Joy Prairie was originally 1200 acres in the NW part of the county, about 7 mi. NW of Jacksonville, and that the original family homestead is still owned by an descendant (in 1976). The church was the Congregational Church of Joy Prairie. If you contact me I will assist you in regard to this book.

    07/07/2000 01:11:40
    1. Re: [ILMORGAN] Sample Photos
    2. Carol E. Valantine Dugger
    3. Victoria, by all means go to the Morgan Co. Genealogical Society! They are extremely helpful and Mary Alkire knows EVERYBODY. (Tell her hello for me and that my research is going well.) At the courthouse (not far away) the ladies there are very helpful but you can only look at the indexes to the records and can't get copies of them without knowing an exact date or names, then it costs $7 for each copy whether or not it is the right person! Rather steep if you're only guessing. I could have found a lot more information had I been able to look directly at the books. Up in the probates dept. I handed the clerk the numbers I wanted and she brought the boxes out for me to look at then made copies for me for quite a reasonable sum, something like $1 for the 1st page and .25 for every additional copy after that, I think. The regular library has very little information so I wouldn't even bother with it. Macoupin Co. Gen. Society (Carlinville)has a nice museum and they have some obituaries there but not much else. The library in Carlinville is where most of the genealogy stuff is kept. Dorothy Woods is their main researcher person and there are files and local biographies,etc. The library has microfilmed censuses and plenty of stuff to look through including obits on file. The obits have no index so you have to know the aproximate death date . If you need to go to the courthouse you will find the ladies there are great, there is access to a copy machine both there and at the library. They will let you paw through any records all by yourself. There were no parking problems at either the library or courthouse in Carlinville, but Jacksonville was another story. We ended up parking at the regular library and walking over to the courthouse. Be sure to try a search for wills and probates at both courthouses because there is so much information available on them if you can find one. If you can find anything on the indexes online before you go and get the numbers it will save a lot of time. I just got back from a similar trip there and gathered enough info that I probably won't have to return again. It was a good experience and everyone I met was very helpful. Good luck with your trip and if I can give you any other hints write me off the list. Carol Dugger Napa,CA

    07/06/2000 06:46:53
    1. RE: [ILMORGAN] Fannings and McCurleys...and Henry's I have 'em ALL!!
    2. Steve Watkins and Jan Petersen
    3. Ok Gang... I have lots of Henry's, all the McCurleys and same Fannings... we need to compare notes... Julie... I have your George and Susan.... Mary Lou.. I have Henrys too... hmmmmm Lets compare and see if we can help... I didn't even realize I had some of these names... sorry gang. Janice Blimling Petersen Clinton, IL -----Original Message----- From: Juli Claussen & Tim Damian [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMORGAN] Fannings and McCurleys Mary Lou, I'd like to touch base with you too, on McCurleys and Henrys. I'm descended from George W. and Susan (McCurley) Henry of the Nortonville area. I tried to email you, but the message came back undeliverable. Would you mind contacting me when you get the chance? Thanks, Juli Claussen [email protected] ______________________________

    07/06/2000 04:25:46
    1. [ILMORGAN] Sample Photos
    2. Victoria Swanson
    3. Posted on: Morgan Co. IL Query Page Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Morgan?read=236 Surname: CHARLES SAMPLE ------------------------- I have several ancestors that held public office around 1856. I plan to visit Morgan and Macoupin County the middle of July, and am wondering WHO to contact to see if there might be photos or artist renditions of these individuals. The geneology assoc? the court house? Library?.. does any one know? I have only 2 days to try to visit Morgan and Macoupin Counties and want to make the most of the visit. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    07/06/2000 01:45:20
    1. Re: [ILMORGAN] Jackson's in Morgan County
    2. Carol E. Valantine Dugger
    3. Mary Ann, I don't think these JACKSONS were mine, although I don't know for certain. I think that William J. b. 1841 doesn't fit since my William Proctor JACKSON b. 1828 came from England, same for the John JACKSON who m. Jane NICHOLS. Now the James F. JACKSON who married Elizabeth DUGGER interests me very much. All the DUGGERS are related to me in some way or another. Do you have a birthdate for her or a marriage date? I suspect she may be the daughter of Dred DUGGER and Sirena HART from Morgan/Macoupin Co. but need a little more information to make that leap. Their Elizabeth was b. 1859 and that could be a bit young--though not impossible-- for a husband b. in 1843. Carol Dugger

    07/06/2000 12:49:49
    1. [ILMORGAN] Joy Prairie church & cemetery
    2. Billy Blanchard
    3. Posted on: Morgan Co. IL Query Page Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Il/Morgan?read=235 Surname: Joy ------------------------- A large number of my distant JOY ancestry resided in Morgan Co. Il., and an area where they farmed became known as JOY PRAIRIE. I understand there was a protestant church and cemetery nearby this area also. I would appreciate the name of the nearest town, and if the name of the cemetery associtated with Joy Prairie and the Joy families. John Pickering Joy and his wife, Judith Pillsbury Batchelder Joy are amoung those buried in this cemetery. Many thanks in advance.

    07/06/2000 11:54:57
    1. Re: [ILMORGAN] Jackson's in Morgan County
    2. Carol Would your family include these Jackson's? John Jackson m Jane Nichols (da of Agrippa Nichols) 12 Dec 1839 in Morgan Co Their children: William J. Jackson b 1841 m Elen Dikis 1861. James F. Jackson b 1843 m Elizabeth Dugger Children of Wm. J. Jackson were: John A. Jackson b 1863 d 1902 m Elizabeth Thompson 1890 James Robert Jackson b 1865 d 1897 Mattie Jackson b 1869 twin sister Mary Jackson b 1869 Lillian B. Jackson b 1873 d 1955 m Geo. B. Haynes Patience Emily Jackson b 1874 d 1945 Emma Jackson b 1875 William W. Jackson b 1876 Susan Jackson b 1879 Any help appreciated. Mary Ann Fanning Atencio [email protected]

    07/06/2000 09:35:42
    1. Re: [ILMORGAN] Fannings and McCurleys
    2. Juli Claussen & Tim Damian
    3. Mary Lou, I'd like to touch base with you too, on McCurleys and Henrys. I'm descended from George W. and Susan (McCurley) Henry of the Nortonville area. I tried to email you, but the message came back undeliverable. Would you mind contacting me when you get the chance? Thanks, Juli Claussen [email protected]

    07/06/2000 08:43:34
    1. [ILMORGAN] Research tip-where are they buried?
    2. Barbara Guinn
    3. Food for thought - We are always searching for that lost member of our family, no clues as to what happened to them. We cannot locate a will, no cemetery shows records etc. Well here is a history note that may hold some clues, something I had not considered before. If you family moved a lot or were early pioneers �always heading west� consider the number of deaths on the trail, all who died this way were left in hastily marked graves and unless someone noted in a diary or bible their deaths would go unrecorded. I had not thought about those untimely deaths during travel and did not consider the number that died. My family lines did not �go West� but they did a lot of traveling opening up several states, Ohio, Kentucky, Illinois and Nebraska. I have been doing some historical research and found several good books the one I am reading now this is an excellent book on women pioneers I picked it up at my local library [not genealogy] it has given me a new perspective on how our families lived and traveled during the early years 1847-1869. I quote from the book �Pioneer Women� by Linda Peavy & Ursula Smith �Judging from the entries in women�s diaries of the period counting the graves became a gruesome pastime amount travelers who feared that their own families might soon face such a fate. While there are no complete records of the number of people who died in the early 1850�s, some wagons lost two-thirds of the number, and one emigrant estimated fifteen hundred to two thousand graves sites along the trail west; and there estimated five thousand. Those estimates might be low since Stanley B. Kimball has estimated that of the seventy thousand Latter-day Saints who mad the overland journey in wagons and handcarts between 1847 and the completion of the railroad in 1869 at least six thousand died along the trail from exhaustion, exposure, disease, and lack of food.� Barbara in Katy TX ===== ALEXANDER,ALMON,BLANCBURN,BOWLES,BROKAW,CLIFTON,COLCORD,CONRAD/COONROD,HALL,HAMMON[D],KIGHTLEY,PLUMMER,PRATHER,RILEY The majority of my research is in the following states: MD,DE,NJ,VA,OH,IL,KY,IN,NB [before 1900] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

    07/06/2000 05:21:34
    1. [ILMORGAN] retracing footsteps
    2. Carol E. Valantine Dugger
    3. Mary Lou, I think that is the genealogist's lament! I did the same thing when I started with the exception that I didn't think it was necessary to document things. You can imagine what a mess I have now and so I am doing what you are, going back and documenting everything I did. It seems especiallyimportant to me now that I am older and as nearly as I can tell am the only person who is actively working on this branch of the Jacksons and Duggers. Thank goodness that I am only just now making progress on the JACKSONs because I am documenting eveerything as I go along now! So for you newcomers to this addictive hobby: DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT!! Carol Dugger Researching: DUGGER, JACKSON,BROWN,MANSFIELD, and sort of the sidelines of FANNING & SOOY & HOPPER

    07/06/2000 04:42:12
    1. Re: ILMORGAN-D Digest V06 #67
    2. jcdenby
    3. How early are school records available for Morgan Co.,Ill Theresa N Va ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:00 AM Subject: ILMORGAN-D Digest V06 #67

    07/06/2000 04:28:53
    1. [ILMORGAN] Fanning's in Morgan County
    2. While we are on the subject: my Fanning's were : Benjamin and Mary Nichols Fanning William Jasper & Sara Jane Story Fanning James Monroe and Margaret Whitlock Fanning Mary Jane Fanning and John Carlisle Entrikin John Seaman & Lucinda Dikis Fanning Nancy Emily Fanning and Alex Claussen Patience Delitha Fanning & David Ira Shelton Martha (Mattie) Fanning & Eli Dikis I have never been able to find Benjamin Fanning's parents. He was born in 1810 in TN and came to Morgan County and lived with Joseph and Susanna Nichols Fanning before moving his family to Carroll County, AR. They later returned to Morgan county and are buried in Youngblood Cemetery. Any help appreciated. Mary Ann Fanning Atencio [email protected]

    07/06/2000 04:15:45
    1. [ILMORGAN] Re: ILMORGAN-D Digest V00 #167
    2. MARY LOU RIDGEWAY
    3. Hi, Carol, Well, drat! I would love to have met you. I'm not doing much in the way of looking for new family members at this time. My focus is on getting what I have organized with the proper documentation, etc.. Hubby and I went to Nortonville this week end to see if a number of the pictures we had were from there. In my ignorance, when I first started genealogy, I evidently thought I would remember where I acquired everything. Well, was I wrong! So now, I'm having to backtrack to document where I got everything, where it was, and who told me. Sigh! Luckily, I only live about 100 miles away from all of this stuff, so it's a nifty day trip, but I'd rather be looking for new, rather than trying to verify old stuff. Have a good day Mary Lou

    07/06/2000 03:44:11
    1. [ILMORGAN] Fannings and McCurleys
    2. MARY LOU RIDGEWAY
    3. Hi, Jan and Vonda, This info isn't precisely what you're looking for, but you might be interested. I was just at the Youngsblood Southern Baptist Church in Nortonville, Morgan Co., Il confirming some Henry ancestors that are buried in the cemetery there. This cemetery is filled with Fanning and McCurley names. There are McCurley names in my Henry database, so I did take a picture of Martha and Mary ann McCurley's stones. Those are the only names I remember and that's only because we were just there yesterday. Back to lurking Mary Lou

    07/05/2000 08:30:47