I want to thank all of you that offered the Cress material. Actually I'm not really researching the Cresses. My family is the Browns & the Roberts of Irving, Montgomery Co. If anyone has any info on them, I would love to hear from you. I have to second the thought that this is a very friendly & helpful web site. Sometimes that is hard to find. ET, where do you live in MO? I live at the Lake of the Ozarks in Morgan Co. Tiss

Elmer, I have the books & will photocopy & send to you. Polley Ellen

Thanks again Polley. Let me know if I owe you anything for all your help. Et ----- Original Message ----- From: <Polleylaw@aol.com> To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [ILMONTGO] Re: Montgomery co book > Elmer, > > I have the books & will photocopy & send to you. > > Polley Ellen > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Montgomery County Genealogical Society was formed in 1978 and its holdings are housed at the Litchfield Carnegie Public Library in Litchfield IL.P.O. Box 212, Litchfield, IL 62056-0212 > >

Does anyone have access to Bond and Montgomery Co history books? I would like history on JohnScherer and Absolom Cress that is in there. Et ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [ILMONTGO] Re: Montgomery co book > Thanks Sue, ET > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Tolbert" <tolbert6@cox.net> > To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:46 AM > Subject: [ILMONTGO] Re: Montgomery co book > > > > Elmer, > > Yes, I am familiar with the history of Bond and Montgomery counties book > that you speak of but I don't have the book itself. > > I hope you get a chance to go back to Montgomery county. I had a great > time there a few years ago and would love to go back. > > > > Sue > > > > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > Montgomery Co IL Mail List is for Genealogical research do not send Virus > warnings to the list. "Problems with the Montgomery Co IL Mail list contact > Tim Casey timcasey59@earthlink.net. > > > > > > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Montgomery Co IL Mail List is for Genealogical research do not send Virus warnings to the list. "Problems with the Montgomery Co IL Mail list contact Tim Casey timcasey59@earthlink.net. > >

Thanks Sue, ET ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <tolbert6@cox.net> To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Re: Montgomery co book > Elmer, > Yes, I am familiar with the history of Bond and Montgomery counties book that you speak of but I don't have the book itself. > I hope you get a chance to go back to Montgomery county. I had a great time there a few years ago and would love to go back. > > Sue > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Montgomery Co IL Mail List is for Genealogical research do not send Virus warnings to the list. "Problems with the Montgomery Co IL Mail list contact Tim Casey timcasey59@earthlink.net. > >

Elmer, Yes, I am familiar with the history of Bond and Montgomery counties book that you speak of but I don't have the book itself. I hope you get a chance to go back to Montgomery county. I had a great time there a few years ago and would love to go back. Sue

Hey, If anyone has pictures of John (Jack) Scherer or his family or the Cress Family I would love to have them. Maybe from newspaper or anyone that is a family member. Thanks Et

This site is the Greatest!!!! You have all been so helpful. I knew this area was full of nice people. I visited Hillsboro for about 1 hour a couple of years ago to see where my grandmother was born. I wish I would have spent more time. I will have to come back soon. I am on lists from several locations in other states but you all take these requests to heart. I appreciate it very much. So here's a big THANK YOU!!! Elmer Thorn Missouri

Tiss: The Gedcom was by a Charles Cassidy, email: cassidyfamily@hotmail.com All of your names are there. THis Cress family came from NC, Carrabas County, I believe. Hope this helps. Patty PS: the Catherine Cress who married the DAvid D. Brown was b. 9 Dec 1810, died 1862. She descends from Nicholas Cress & Katherine, then Jacob & Carolina. Her siblings were:Absalom b. 25 SEp 1807 d. 22 May 1855 Sophia Cress b. 26 Sep 1809 d. 21 Dec 1878, Rebecca Cress b. 12 Feb 1813 d. 2 May 1908, Mary Cress b. 12 Jul 1815 d. 11 Jun 1882, Jacob Cress b. 5 May 1818 d. 1 Jul 1903, Sarah Cress b. 18 Apr 1820, Lavina Cress b. 19 Feb 1822 d. 31 Oct 1844, Susanna Cress b. 24 Mar 1824 d. 1824, Nancy Carolina Cress b. 1 Mar 1828, d. 8 Oct 1894. John Henry Cress b. Nov 1770 d. 7 Nov 1840 married RACHEL BACKWELDER b. 3 Mar 1772, d. 25 Nov. 1831(JOHN HENRY was son of Nicholas Cress & Katherine) 2nd generation. Hope this helps. Patty

Tiss: On ancestry.com: KATHERINE CRESS married DAVID D. BROWN January 10, 1831, Montgomery co. IL. HELENA CRESS married DANIEL M. BLACKWELDER, October 10, 1861, Montgomery Co., IL. JOANNE SHERER married ALFRED BLACKWELDER APRIL 19, 1838, Montgomery co. IL. There is also a gedcom with KATHERINE CRESS & DAVID D. BROWN; It shows b. dates/for them, also parents. Also in that gedcom are: CALEB BLACKWELDER, RACHEL BLACKWELDER b. August 31, 1772, died Nov. 25, 1831. Do you have access to the FAmily Trees??? Perhpas you could write to the person who posted? The name was CASSIDY. Patty

I went to Litchfield Library and found the obit of John Jefferson Scherer who died age 89 at his home west of Hillsboro. He was oldest resident of the county. It gives him as a son of Mr. Mrs.. Eli Scherer. Funeral was at Hillsboro Lutheran Ch. and bur Cress Hill Cemt. This obit was very hard to read so I could not make a copy. It names the ch, the oldest one was Mrs L.W. Patton of Cassville, MO and 2nd was Mrs Charles Sanders of Deering, MO. Other ch. lived in CO and Hillsboro, IL. I checked the Blackwelder book and found Eli Scherer s/o Frederick and gson of Jacob Daniel Scherer. Eli was born in NC and mar lst. Miss Duke, He mar 2nd Lavina Cress born 2-19 1822 and died 10-3-1844 , He mar 3rd Martha Ann Grantham . It list children by all 3 of the women. Hope this helps in your search. You will find lots of info on these families at the Litchfield , IL Library. MW -----Original Message----- From: Elmer Thorn <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Fw: John J Scherer > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Elmer Thorn >To: ILMONTGO-D@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:17 PM >Subject: John J Scherer > > >I am looking for anyone researching the Scherer family. My G G Grandfather was JohnJefferson SCHERER b Jun 19 1837 In I believe Montgomery Co Ill. He is buried in Cress Hill Cemetery. I want to know who his parents were. I believe that it might be Frederick Scherer (mispelled Shure) in the index for 1850 census. Does anyone have any information on this family? Catherine CRESS married JohnJ Scherer Nov 21 1858. Thier first daughter Clara was my Great Grandmother. Any help would be greatly apprecaited.. >Elmer Thorn >Missouri > > >==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== >Montgomery Co IL Mail List is for Genealogical research do not send Virus warnings to the list. "Problems with the Montgomery Co IL Mail list contact Tim Casey timcasey59@earthlink.net. > >

Tiss, No this isn't the same Catherine. Mine was born in 1840 and married John Scherer in 1858. There were lots of Cresses in that area. I even saw where a Cress married a Cress. So there seemed to be different branches of Cresses but probably all directly related. Sorry I can't help you on your Catherine. Et ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce & Ed Thomas" <ejthomas@i1.net> To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Catherine Cress > Elmer, I have a Catherine Cress who married a cousin in 1830 in > Montgomery Co. His name was David Diedrick Brown. I have an aprox. > birth date of 1810 and a death date of 1860 in Montgomery Co. on her. I > don't have her parents, but they were some of the earliest settlers. > There was a connection with the Blackwelders. > > Were there two Catherine Cresses or is it the same one in a different > marriage? > > Tiss > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Montgomery County Genealogical Society was formed in 1978 and its holdings are housed at the Litchfield Carnegie Public Library in Litchfield IL.P.O. Box 212, Litchfield, IL 62056-0212 > >

John Jefferson Scherer's father was Dr. Eli Sherer, native of Cabarras Co., NC. He was married 3X and died in 1844 when Jack was 7. He was living in Irving at the time. Jack did not want to live with his step-mother, so he went to live with his uncle. This information comes from a transcribed newspaper article of Jack's memories. I am a Cress & my aunt put a book together. I can photocopy the article for you. Please e-mail me privately with your address. Polley Ellen Cress Lawrence

Elmer, I have a Catherine Cress who married a cousin in 1830 in Montgomery Co. His name was David Diedrick Brown. I have an aprox. birth date of 1810 and a death date of 1860 in Montgomery Co. on her. I don't have her parents, but they were some of the earliest settlers. There was a connection with the Blackwelders. Were there two Catherine Cresses or is it the same one in a different marriage? Tiss

Elmer, I have the book "Semi-Centenarians of Butler Grove Township and a Brief History of the Village of Butler" by Rev. T. E. Spilman; Sept. 1878 The book has an index but I have discovered it is only an index of the people whose biographies are included. It doesn't include those names that are within the biographies. In the biographies section, included are: Mrs. Mary Scherer (wife of David) page 13 Jacob Cress (husband of Miss Helena Scherer) page 92 Mrs. Helena Cress (wife of Jacob Cress, daughter of Daniel and Rachel Scherer) page 93. I will be glad to transcribe these biographes and send them to you. In the history section: page 140 "The Evangelical Lutheran Church of Ware's Grove was organized Dec. 24th 1860 under the pastoral labors of Rev. J. Livengood. The names of the original members are as follows: Jacob W. Scherer, Mrs. Electa Scherer, Henry Misenheimer, Mrs. Rachel Misenheimer, Mrs. Mary Scherer, Mrs. Rebecca A. Cress. The Church Edifice in which the congregation now worships was built in 1862, and dedicated in Dec. of the same year, the dedication sermon being preached by Rev. George A. Bowers." Hope this helps, Sue

Dear Elmer, This may not be of direct help re your specific questions, but recently I ordered and reviewed at LDS film of church and cemetery records from Montgomery Co. that included lots of info about Cress Hill Cemetery, including maps of the plots and who the lots were sold to, and many of the records were very early. Also, the church there had very early records of members and the formation of the church. Maybe this would be helpful. The church recs were film #1316514. Cem recs were film 1316518, with Cress being item 2. Good luck, Juli Claussen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elmer Thorn" <eandmthorn@cox-internet.com> To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: [ILMONTGO] John J Scherer > I am looking for anyone researching the Scherer family. My G G Grandfather was JohnJefferson SCHERER b Jun 19 1837 In I believe Montgomery Co Ill. He is buried in Cress Hill Cemetery. I want to know who his parents were. I believe that it might be Frederick Scherer (mispelled Shure) in the index for 1850 census. Does anyone have any information on this family? Catherine CRESS married JohnJ Scherer Nov 21 1858. Thier first daughter Clara was my Great Grandmother. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. > Elmer Thorn > Missouri > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Montgomery Co IL Mail List is for Genealogical research do not send Virus warnings to the list. "Problems with the Montgomery Co IL Mail list contact Tim Casey timcasey59@earthlink.net. >

Hello all, I sent the message below and it was returned.Evidently the lookup volunteer has changed addresses or is no lnoger doing lookups. I would like to get the pages that I have listed below from The Butler Groves History. Is there anyone else doing this? Et ----- Original Message ----- From: Elmer Thorn To: DHass-CRMM@worldnet.att.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:15 PM Subject: Butler Groves History I would like to see the pages listed below . John Scherer (sometimes spelled Sherer) was my great great grandfather. He married Absolom Cress's daughter Catherine. I am wanting to find info on John's father. Below is names and page numbers that might be helpful. Thank You in advance for your time. Elmer Thorn Mo Cress Absolom pg 202 Sherer John pg 203 Scherer Daniel pg 201

Hi, If anyone happens to go to the Library in Hillsboro, could you look and see if there is a James Madden and Mary Louise "Elizabeth" Madden buried in any of the cemeteries in the county. Thank you, Dean

----- Original Message ----- From: Elmer Thorn To: ILMONTGO-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: John J Scherer I am looking for anyone researching the Scherer family. My G G Grandfather was JohnJefferson SCHERER b Jun 19 1837 In I believe Montgomery Co Ill. He is buried in Cress Hill Cemetery. I want to know who his parents were. I believe that it might be Frederick Scherer (mispelled Shure) in the index for 1850 census. Does anyone have any information on this family? Catherine CRESS married JohnJ Scherer Nov 21 1858. Thier first daughter Clara was my Great Grandmother. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. Elmer Thorn Missouri

I am looking for anyone researching the Scherer family. My G G Grandfather was JohnJefferson SCHERER b Jun 19 1837 In I believe Montgomery Co Ill. He is buried in Cress Hill Cemetery. I want to know who his parents were. I believe that it might be Frederick Scherer (mispelled Shure) in the index for 1850 census. Does anyone have any information on this family? Catherine CRESS married JohnJ Scherer Nov 21 1858. Thier first daughter Clara was my Great Grandmother. Any help would be greatly apprecaited. Elmer Thorn Missouri