It sounds like a description of ague, or fever, such as that experienced with malaria. The term was usually used to describe alternating chills and fever as is often seen with influenza. As most forms of influenza are non-lethal in reasonably healthy adults, it was probably not a big worry to that hardy pioneer stock. Bill Morgan Kansas City ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: [ILMONTGO] What were the "Illinois shakes?" > In reading a booklet of memories from my Great-Grandmother, she mentioned > that when the pioneers came west, there would be "whole families lying on the > ground shaking. Not to worry, it was just the Ager..." What were these > shakes? What condition caused them? > > Many thanks! > Polley Lawrence > Roswell, GA > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Montgomery County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cabin/3648/montgo2.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

In reading a booklet of memories from my Great-Grandmother, she mentioned that when the pioneers came west, there would be "whole families lying on the ground shaking. Not to worry, it was just the Ager..." What were these shakes? What condition caused them? Many thanks! Polley Lawrence Roswell, GA

Hi Polley, Ager usually is chills and fever. It could be malaria which was common. Any group new to an area had a period that was called seasoning in which they appeared to be very likely to get any fever or disease that was common to that area. Often many of them died. This happened to the Pilgrims; it happened at Jamestown and it happened to groups as they moved west. In Perry County, MO where I live, the Germans were hit hard in the Wittenberg, Altenberg area. In areas along the river, chlorea was bad at various times. Some kind of fever or malaria is my guess for the Ager or the Illinois shakes. Each group always named their new experiences by their new home. Billie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: [ILMONTGO] What were the "Illinois shakes?" > In reading a booklet of memories from my Great-Grandmother, she mentioned > that when the pioneers came west, there would be "whole families lying on the > ground shaking. Not to worry, it was just the Ager..." What were these > shakes? What condition caused them? > > Many thanks! > Polley Lawrence > Roswell, GA > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Montgomery County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cabin/3648/montgo2.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Several years ago, over 20 for sure, Mr. Sanders located my ggrandfather's farm for my dad.

Mr. Sanders has been dead for several years. I have heard that the local public library in Litchfield has copies of his publications and other helpful local genealogy information. Lea Robert Bissell wrote: > > Is Mr. Sanders deceased? If still living I want to communicate with him. > Thanks. > Robert. > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Montgomery County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cabin/3648/montgo2.html > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Is Mr. Sanders deceased? If still living I want to communicate with him. Thanks. Robert.

Since the list has been on the subject of Montgomery County cemeteries, I thought I would post my challenge. Several members of my HORNBURG line were buried in either Butler or Hillsboro, IL. The family lived in Butler Township during the 1870 census. The family moved to St. Louis, Missouri. Some of the family members who died in St. Louis were buried in Montgomery County. My mom and I spent a day at the genealogical library in Litchfield (I think that's where it was) in September looking at every piece of literature on cemeteries of Montgomery County. I also looked at the Litchfield newspaper film for obits. We found nothing on the Hornburgs. We then went to the County Courthouse in Hillsboro to look further. The very cordial county clerk gave us contact names for the two cemeteries that weren't covered in the library. One of the phone numbers is disconnected. I wrote to the other contact person, but he hasn't replied yet. Anyway, if anyone has any other ideas for me to try, I'm very interested in hearing them. The names of my relatives buried in Montgomery County are: Frederick Hornburg (Abt 1831-1887, buried in Butler, IL), William Hornburg (Abt 1859-1899, buried in Hillsboro, IL), and Anna Hornburg Metty (1855-1910, buried in Hillsboro, IL). Thanks much. Eileen in SD

Dear Barb, This really is very kind of you. I've been searching relentlessly for James Myers of Montgomery Co. He either died or deserted his family after 1863. There were several James Myers though :( He could be buried with families Farrar and Sinclair. He was either born in PA or OH (census info...you know how that can be misleading). Thank you for any help. Hope I can return the favor as I research other records. Kathy Missouri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Dopp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Forgotten Cemeteries by Mr. Walter Sanders > I ordered the film Forgotten Cemeteries from Mr. Walter Sanders work in the Montgomery Co and surrounding areas and I found nothing, but I have the film for 2 more weeks. IF you believe there might be information for you in this book I would be willing to look in the index and email you the information if it is available. > I only can look the next 2 Friday nights so please be patient. > Barb Dopp in MN > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Tim Casey, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:[email protected] > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi, Barb: If you can, I'm interested in: RHODES, Thomas ROGERS, Margaret RHODES, Russell Thanks Janet Agosti Alta Loma, CA

Below is the address for the cemetery listings at the IL State Gen. Soc. that Mr. Sander's contributed. The first is the index page--lists all the counties, second is for Montgomery Co. http://www.tbox.com/isgs/ilcemetery.html http://www.tbox.com/isgs/ilcemetery-mz/montgomery.html (You can go to www.rootsweb.com, then click USGenweb, state project pages, graphical map, IL--there are quite a few good IL links there. All the states are there.) I understand my 3 gr grand parents, Noah and Hannah HICKS KELLEY are buried in Bald Knob (I was also told Bald Hill) also known as Irving Cemetary. I sent a letter to Mr. Sanders asking for clarification on this cemetery entry--I think it indicates that it has been read and I am curious as to what information I can find out about Noah and Hannah. Hope this helps-- Pat in WA State

All I know is that Mr. Sanders information on some cemeteries in the Montgomery Co. area are listed in a book Forgotten Cemeteries and this information has been put on microfilm in Salt Lake. From the information I looked at on the film he listed what he found on headstones in each of cemetery, which were small cemeteries in the area from the number of listings. There is an index so it is easy to see who is in which cemetery. Mr. Sanders was obviously someone that valued genealogical information and left it for us. Barb

I don't know what cemeteries you are refering to exactly but one "forgotten cemtery" that I know of is Blooming Grove Cemetery aka Butler Cemetery aka Wiley Cemetery. It is just West of Butler in Montgomery co and is totally unaccessable. If not for friendly neighbors, I never could have found it even though it should be visible from the road. It is totally overgrown with weeds and brambles to the point that you can't even get within fify feet of a very large monument. It is so sad. I have been told however that it is set to be cleaned up next spring. Anyone on the list know who is buried there or in any of the other cemeteries around Butler? Cherry Grove, Ware's Grove, Montgomery Church, and the name unknown cemetery N.W. of Butler? Sue

Would love to know where the "forgotten cemeteries" are in Montgomery County. L. Collins

Thanks for your offer. I am looking for the name Arney in Montgomery Co., IL. I don't know where they are buried. It might not be a forgotten cemetery. Donna

Hi Barb, Thanks for the offer. I'm looking for VOYLES (Robert B d. 1868, Samuel F d. aft. 1918, Nancy Ellen b. 1875) JONES (Amanda Catherine b.1847) GASTON ( Sarah m. Voyles 1843) MORRIS , perhaps(?) Thank you very much, Marcia Snow Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Dopp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 6:30 AM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Forgotten Cemeteries by Mr. Walter Sanders > I ordered the film Forgotten Cemeteries from Mr. Walter Sanders work in the Montgomery Co and surrounding areas and I found nothing, but I have the film for 2 more weeks. IF you believe there might be information for you in this book I would be willing to look in the index and email you the information if it is available. > I only can look the next 2 Friday nights so please be patient. > Barb Dopp in MN > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Tim Casey, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:[email protected] > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

If you would like I would be glad to take a look in the cemeteries close by. I am always looking for ancestors around that area. If you have any dates at all it might help. I have been looking for one of mine in and around the Litchfield area to no avail as yet. L. Collins

Dear Barb, I am researching ELLEDGE / ROW(E) / MEISENHEIMER in Montgomery Co. If you have the time to chech for these names, I would be most appreciative. Thanks for the offer. Janet in San Antonio ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Dopp <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: [ILMONTGO] Forgotten Cemeteries by Mr. Walter Sanders > I ordered the film Forgotten Cemeteries from Mr. Walter Sanders work in the Montgomery Co and surrounding areas and I found nothing, but I have the film for 2 more weeks. IF you believe there might be information for you in this book I would be willing to look in the index and email you the information if it is available. > I only can look the next 2 Friday nights so please be patient. > Barb Dopp in MN > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Tim Casey, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:[email protected] > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

My suggestion would be to contact the Montgomery County Clerk located in the Montgomery County Courthouse in Hillsboro, IL. Do you know where they lived?? L. Collins

Seeking information about the death of Henry STENZIG that lived in 1900 census on Welch St. Hillsboro. His wife was Kate. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you Barb

I have in the past written to the Montgomery County Clerk and they had nothing about Christopher HUHN. I know that many of this HUHN family are buried in the the Ware Grove Cemetery in Butler Grove Township from information I received from Robert Hough the funeral director that helped me in my early research. I know that Christopher's son William died in 1891 and Christopher died before that date. Thank you for your response ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [ILMONTGO] Help please Christopher & Charlie Huhn > My suggestion would be to contact the Montgomery County Clerk located in the > Montgomery County Courthouse in Hillsboro, IL. Do you know where they lived?? > > L. Collins > > > ==== ILMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Montgomery County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Cabin/3648/montgo2.html > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >