Dear List members, Is anyone researching the WIERSCHEM family from Columbia, Il? Mine are from Madonnaville and Waterloo, but I suspect there would be a connection there. Other names are MEIER (Meyer) from Harrisonville, SHIELDS from Burksville, GANNON, who apparently moved elsewhere from this area, and HAGENE from Waterloo. Also, a bit of helpful advice...Are you all aware of the Online source of Illinois Death Records? You email them 2 names with date of death and they will MAIL you FREE the copy of the record. It must be AFTER 1919, but it is very helpful. The address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilclint2/dcert.htm I found out my ancestor's mother's maiden name and birthplace this way. Unfortunately, one other record just said unknown for those two answers, so it's only as accurate as the informant, but it's worth a shot. Can someone possibly do a lookup in the Monroe County death record book on the deaths of Mary MEIER nee Hagene born @1839 died between 1881 and 1899 Mary Margaret SHIELDS nee Gannon born @1835 Ireland, died between 1881-1899 Martin GANNON born @1820 Ireland, died between 1872-1880. Thanks!! ________________________________________ Gerry Meier [email protected] http://home.postnet.com/~gmeie/ ________________________________________

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_921429327_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_921429327_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.email.msn.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb01.mx.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:35:22 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id IAA23275; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19691; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 05:32:58 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 05:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Adrianne Hopkins" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]> Old-Cc: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:37:40 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Subject: [WVA-L] National Museum of Funeral History Resent-Message-ID: <"mJHSaB.A.MzE.Hq762"@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1523 X-Loop: [email protected] To: [email protected] Precedence: list Errors-To: [email protected] Resent-Sender: [email protected] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Myra Gormley sent me this URL, and I'm passing it on to you as an oddity. It's the National Museum of Funeral History, and they even have a newsletter available online! For the truly curious... http://www.nmfh.org/index.html ==== WVA Mailing List ==== -snip--- NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, computer questions, political announcements, current events, personal messages,flames, religious messages etc. (in other words - Spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal and exclusion from this mailing list. Spam crashes our servers and we have to take a stand. ---snip--- --part0_921429327_boundary--

I found this death record: 278 4 mar 1879, Huber, Rebecca, 83y 7m 2d, died 3 jan 1879 1 AM, Widow, German Hesse Darmstadt, died Round Prairie, no cause, 5 days buried Round Prairie Graveyard, Dr. John Landholt, Red Bud I suspect that she is the mother of Elizabeth Huber. Elizabeth was born 1837 and various records indicate that she immigrated from Hesse Darmstad in 1840. She married Phillip Wagner at Waterloo in 1858. Can anyone help? I'm stuck until I can make a road trip to IL. John --- John Crossley Sacramento, California, USA [email protected] http://www.jps.net/crossley Ask me about my Joke-a-Day email list!

Hello - The microfilm number for the 1878-1915 Monroe County death records was posted recently. Before ordering the film, however, I wonder if any reader has a transcribed copy, and would be willing to check for a couple of names. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Tom Davis Oceanside, CA

Tom: Check w/ VP Pat Vaseska. She just spent days inputting 100+ years worth of Monroe Co. death records. This will be a new publication in the next MCGS Quarterly. Her e-mail is [email protected] Janet

Hello all, I have tried to post a query on the Monr. Co. home page two times in the last several weeks and I get no reply. Does anyone know what is wrong? Sharon

Janet, A while a back you wrote: >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:49:47 EST >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ILMONROE-L] Re: ILMONROE-D Digest V98 #36 > >Lots of WAGNERs, but no Phillip. Can you tell me if there were any WAGNERs naturalized before 1850? John --- John Crossley Sacramento, California, USA [email protected] http://www.jps.net/crossley Ask me about my Joke-a-Day email list!

None before 1850.

In a message dated 99-03-09 13:44:08 EST, you write: << >> Have you checked Randolph Co. records? Red Bud is in Randolph Co. People from Tipton and south areas of Monroe Co. have a Red Bud address even though they're from Monroe. It's confusing!

Ernst MEIER, 5/28/1865, Prussia, Germany (taken from actual document, not Clerk's book) No Henry MEIER

WERSCHEIM: Anton, Circuit Clerk Book P, pg. 39, 4/25/1855, Prussia Germany John, ", pg. 41, 4/25/1855, Prussia, Germany. Fred, Book 4, pg. 44, 5/7/1860, Prussia, Germany No HAGENE

Thank you all for your help. Still no luck. >From: [email protected] > >I don't know about an Index, but I have obtained copies of naturalization >papers from the Monroe County Courthouse. You might want to call the >Clerk of the Circuit Court at 618-939-8681, ext. 223. He can tell you >what's available and how to get it. Good idea. >From: [email protected] > >HUBERs in Naturalization Index of Monroe Co. (write to courthouse for >copies): >Book 2, John HUBER, p. 14, 3/24/1917, Zell, Backnang, Wuertenberg, Germany >Book 4, Anna Huber, p. 38, 12/18/1922, Alec, Hungary >Book 4, Joseph HUBER, p. 17, 3/2/1917, Sarmikolousul Make, Romania Welcome back Janet. Thanks for the list. I forgot to mention the time frame. Mr. Don't-Know-His-Name HUBER arrived in IL about 1840. My best guess at this point is Valentine & Rebecca HUBER. Valentine purchased 80 acres of land in Monroe and St. Clair Counties near Waterloo on 12/11/1837. Rebecca died 3 Jan 1879 at Red Bud. Hey, at least they were old enough! :-) >From: [email protected] >Lots of WAGNERs, but no Phillip. No Elizabeth HUBER, but see previous >message >for all HUBERs. Phillip was born in IL or maybe OH. I'm looking for his father, Mr. Don't-Know-His-Name WAGNER. My best guess is John Adam WAGNER. He purchased 40 acres near Waterloo, Twp 2S 9W section 9, 04/13/1835. He also appears in the 1860 census. I wish he was in the 1850 census, as Phillip (b. 1835) would probably still be home. :-) Perhaps some personal sleuthing is necessary. I think I'll have to visit scenic Monroe County this spring. Can anyone suggest an economical place to stay? John --- John Crossley Sacramento, California, USA [email protected] http://www.jps.net/crossley Ask me about my Joke-a-Day email list!

> Attention, Janet Flynn. And welcome back, Janet. > > In January I wrote the ILMONROE-L asking for info on the "Henry LONG" > family listed on page 355 in the 1840 Monroe County, Illinois, Federal > Census. > > Specifically, I was hoping to learn where in Monroe County this family > lived, and to what Catholic parish they may have belonged. > > You replied on 3 Feb 1999: > >The index doesn't list the precinct in Monroe Co. If I can get to a reader, >I'll look at the 1840 roll on Friday when I'm at the library for our monthly >MCGS help day. >If it's the Madonnaville area there's a Catholic church there which was >founded by the JAMES family of Monroe City - Immaculate Conception (not to be >confused with Immaculate Conception in Columbia). > I think you became very busy moving, and I never heard from you. > > This might be the Heinrich LANG family I have been searching for since > 1990. They moved from Illinois to Sherrill, Dubuque County, Iowa, in > about 1846 with three children "born in Illinois" (according to the 1856 > State of Iowa Census). > > Thanks for any help or leads. > > Daniel > > Daniel J. Kortenkamp, Ph.D. [email protected] > Dept. of Psychology > University of Wisconsin fax: 715 346-2778 > Stevens Point, WI 54481 > http://www.uwsp.edu/acad/psych/dk/danielpg.htm >

Hi, Do we have any naturalizations for Ernst MEIER Henry MEIER Anton WIERSCHEM Jacob HAGENE THANKS!! Gerry

Hi Janet, Welcome back. Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILMONROE-L] Re: ILMONROE-D Digest V98 #36 >Lots of WAGNERs, but no Phillip. No Elizabeth HUBER, but see previous message >for all HUBERs. > > >==== ILMONROE Mailing List ==== >The Elusive Ancestor >poem by Merrell Kenworthy > I went searching for an ancestor. I cannot find him still. > He moved around from place to place and did not leave a will. > He married where a courthouse burned. He mended all his fences. > He avoided any man who came to take the U.S. Census. > He always kept his luggage packed, this man who had no fame. > And every 20 years or so, this rascal changed his name. > His parents came from Europe. They should be upon some list > of passengers to U.S.A., but somehow they got missed. > And no one else in this world is searching for this man. > So, I play geneasolitaire to find him if I can. > I'm told he's buried in a plot, with tombtone he was blessed; > but the weather took engraving, and some vandals took the rest. > He died before the county clerks decided to keep records. > No Family Bible has emerged, in spite of all my efforts. > To top it off this ancestor, who caused me many groans, > Just to give me one more pain, betrothed a girl named JONES. > >

Hi, I am searching for a Lena ? b-1884 married George S. Seibert. Both are buried at St. John's Cemetery in Fults, Ill. Any possible connection to your Schmitts? Thanks. Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:07 PM Subject: [ILMONROE-L] Schmitt Family >I know Peter Schmitt was naturalized in Waterloo in 1862 and married >Elizabeth Rapp in 1865. I have since learned that Peter was previously >married and had four children. Name of first wife unknown. The >children were Lena, William, John and Frederick SCHMITT. It's possible >some or all of them were born in Germany and would have also been >naturalized in Waterloo. Are there any other SCHMITTs in the >Naturalization Index. >(I checked with the County Clerk for the year 1862 and that was >negative.) > >Thanks for any info. > >Jean >Sedro-Woolley > > >==== ILMONROE Mailing List ==== >In accordance with the Act of the Legislature, Caldwell Cairns, James >Lemon, Sr., and Abraham Moses met at the house of John McClure in the >town of Harrisonville, June 1st, 1816, as Judges of the County Court. >William Alexander, Clerk and Recorder, and James B. Moore, Sheriff, were the >first incumbants of their respective offices, receiving their positions >by appointment. >Harrisonville remained the County-seat until 1825. >Combined Atlases of Monroe County 1875, 1901, 1916 p. 10 > >

I know Peter Schmitt was naturalized in Waterloo in 1862 and married Elizabeth Rapp in 1865. I have since learned that Peter was previously married and had four children. Name of first wife unknown. The children were Lena, William, John and Frederick SCHMITT. It's possible some or all of them were born in Germany and would have also been naturalized in Waterloo. Are there any other SCHMITTs in the Naturalization Index. (I checked with the County Clerk for the year 1862 and that was negative.) Thanks for any info. Jean Sedro-Woolley

Lots of WAGNERs, but no Phillip. No Elizabeth HUBER, but see previous message for all HUBERs.

HUBERs in Naturalization Index of Monroe Co. (write to courthouse for copies): Book 2, John HUBER, p. 14, 3/24/1917, Zell, Backnang, Wuertenberg, Germany Book 4, Anna Huber, p. 38, 12/18/1922, Alec, Hungary Book 4, Joseph HUBER, p. 17, 3/2/1917, Sarmikolousul Make, Romania

John, I don't know about an Index, but I have obtained copies of naturalization papers from the Monroe County Courthouse. You might want to call the Clerk of the Circuit Court at 618-939-8681, ext. 223. He can tell you what's available and how to get it. Jean Sedro-Woolley, WA