Dear George, Do you think that Aaron A. and Eleanor were married in Mercer Cty, Ohio, because if their children were born in Ohio, they surely were married there, don't you think? Nope. Aaron and Elenor (note the spelling of Elenor from the record) were married in Mercer County, Illinois on September 6, 1848. Recorded in Volume A - License No. 370. Where did you learn Aaron and Eleanor's children were born in Ohio? Are you thinking Elenor and Ellen are the same person? I did not find Ellen in the 1850 Census, so she must have came to Illinois between 1850 and 1860 since Viola was 6 years old in 1860 and born in Illinois and they were here in 1860. Now here's a bit of confusion. Checking the 1870 Census again (barely legible) I see that the "Vic" I mentioned is a female, so I'm wondering if they called her "Vie" and that's what the census taker heard and recorded. The age (15) would be right, depending on what time of year the census was taken. Still, the 1860 Census is clear in that she was born in Ohio and in 1870 she was born in Illinois. One of those census takers made a mistake and this could be a key to when she came to Illinois. Folks died young in those days and families got mixed up amoung relatives just to survive. I've seen two children in the same family with the same given name and different ages probably named after a favorite relative and lost their parent/s. This search ain't over yet! gc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Carpenter" <gcarp@qconline.com> > To: <ILMERCER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMERCER-L] Ellen Mapes or Frank Willis > > > > Aaron A. Mapes and Elenor Evans was married in Mercer County on September > > 6th, 1848. > > > > In the "History of Mercer County - 1882", a Mr. Mapes and his wife were > > listed as part of a group that formed the United Brethren Society in > > Keithsburg. Could this be Aaron and Elenor? > > > > 1860 Census, Line 772: > > Ellen Mapes, born in Ohio, is 49 years old and listed as a "washwoman". > > Living with her in Keithsburg Township are; William - age 20, Amanda - age > > 14, Daniel Evans - age 18 and Viola Mapes - age 6. > > All were born in Ohio. > > > > 1870 Census, Line 221: > > Ellen Mapes is 58 years old in 1870. She lives in Keithsburg Township with > > her sons, William - age 30 and Vic - age 15. William was born in Ohio and > > Vic was born in Illinois. > > > > The record (Vol. A - page 80 - License 1606) shows Amanda Mapes married > > Marion Willis in Mercer County on April 1st,1862. Was Frank a middle name? > > > > George Carpenter > > Illinois City, Illinois > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <d.k.list@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <ILMERCER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:44 AM > > Subject: [ILMERCER-L] Ellen Mapes or Frank Willis > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Mapes,Willis > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hg.2ADI/644 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > I am seeking information on Ellen Mapes who was on the Mercer County > 1860 > > census with her children William,Amanda and Viola. Amanda Mapes married > > Frank Willis in 1862 in Mercer County. Any information would be > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > >

Dear George, I am almost sure that Ellen and Elenor are the same people because I just received the marriage certificate for Amanda Mapes and permission was signed by Elenor Mapes. The only child that would be a Mapes would be Viola(Vic) for the age. I have tried to find Aaron and Ellen in the 1850 census and haven't made any headway yet. If I can find that, and there are children, I will know that they don't belong to him. It appears that Ellen(Elenor) is the mother of Daniel Evans as he is with her in 1880 in CO. It just hit me, they must be his children. Apparently he died, since he isn't in the 1860 census and only Elenor's name is on the permissible for Manda to get married. I'll bet they are his kids. Like today, my kids, your kids, and ours. He had to die between 1854-1859 because Viola was born in 1855 or 1856 and he isn't on the 1860 census. I just received info from a Mapes expert and he has Aaron as dying in 1852. I asked him to let me know if this is documented so I can see about Viola. She has to be Ellen's and Aaron's because they married in 1848. I love the mystery of genealogy. Dixie ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Carpenter" <gcarp@qconline.com> To: <ILMERCER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ILMERCER-L] Ellen Mapes or Frank Willis > > > > Dear George, > Do you think that Aaron A. and Eleanor were married in Mercer Cty, > Ohio, because if their children were born in Ohio, they surely were married > there, don't you think? > > Nope. Aaron and Elenor (note the spelling of Elenor from the record) were > married in Mercer County, Illinois on September 6, 1848. Recorded in Volume > A - License No. 370. > Where did you learn Aaron and Eleanor's children were born in Ohio? Are you > thinking Elenor and Ellen are the same person? > > I did not find Ellen in the 1850 Census, so she must have came to Illinois > between 1850 and 1860 since Viola was 6 years old in 1860 and born in > Illinois and they were here in 1860. Now here's a bit of confusion. Checking > the 1870 Census again (barely legible) I see that the "Vic" I mentioned is a > female, so I'm wondering if they called her "Vie" and that's what the census > taker heard and recorded. The age (15) would be right, depending on what > time of year the census was taken. Still, the 1860 Census is clear in that > she was born in Ohio and in 1870 she was born in Illinois. One of those > census takers made a mistake and this could be a key to when she came to > Illinois. > > Folks died young in those days and families got mixed up amoung relatives > just to survive. I've seen two children in the same family with the same > given name and different ages probably named after a favorite relative and > lost their parent/s. > This search ain't over yet! > gc > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Carpenter" <gcarp@qconline.com> > > To: <ILMERCER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 9:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILMERCER-L] Ellen Mapes or Frank Willis > > > > > > > Aaron A. Mapes and Elenor Evans was married in Mercer County on > September > > > 6th, 1848. > > > > > > In the "History of Mercer County - 1882", a Mr. Mapes and his wife were > > > listed as part of a group that formed the United Brethren Society in > > > Keithsburg. Could this be Aaron and Elenor? > > > > > > 1860 Census, Line 772: > > > Ellen Mapes, born in Ohio, is 49 years old and listed as a "washwoman". > > > Living with her in Keithsburg Township are; William - age 20, Amanda - > age > > > 14, Daniel Evans - age 18 and Viola Mapes - age 6. > > > All were born in Ohio. > > > > > > 1870 Census, Line 221: > > > Ellen Mapes is 58 years old in 1870. She lives in Keithsburg Township > with > > > her sons, William - age 30 and Vic - age 15. William was born in Ohio > and > > > Vic was born in Illinois. > > > > > > The record (Vol. A - page 80 - License 1606) shows Amanda Mapes married > > > Marion Willis in Mercer County on April 1st,1862. Was Frank a middle > name? > > > > > > George Carpenter > > > Illinois City, Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <d.k.list@worldnet.att.net> > > > To: <ILMERCER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:44 AM > > > Subject: [ILMERCER-L] Ellen Mapes or Frank Willis > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > Surnames: Mapes,Willis > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/hg.2ADI/644 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > I am seeking information on Ellen Mapes who was on the Mercer County > > 1860 > > > census with her children William,Amanda and Viola. Amanda Mapes married > > > Frank Willis in 1862 in Mercer County. Any information would be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >