To any of you that may be interested: I received an answer to a lookup in Smith Co, Texas by Georgia Bristol Jerome Lee Snodgrass b. November 26, 1860, McLean Co., Illinois and Rosella Carter b. Jan 22 1858 d. Aug. 28 1944 Marriage Index: Texas 1850-1900 Snodgrass, J. L. spouse : Carter, Rosella Marriage Date: Dec 24, 1885 County : Smith Gender: Male Source: Library of Congress reference number (book) Reference Number : 976.4225v2m ------- Susie McFarland Lemin, Looking into the Surnames of LEMIN, FOLLIARD, COMMONS, HURLEY, CABELL, RECTOR, MANSFIELD, ENGLAND, HENAGER, BOLLING, BOULDIN, MCFARLAND, SNODGRASS, HENSHAW, CARTER, RODGERS, PHILLIPS, CRABB, EMERSON, TOMERLIN, MCCUAN, WINSETT, and any associated names.

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Hi Listers Anyone interested in the orphanage at Normal might want to search around in the Illinois sites. As I was surfing the other nite I happen to see information for writing for the information on children who were there. I'm sorry I didn't bookmark it! I was searching in McLean Co and the IL State archives. I will try to find it again. Mary Ann

Yvonne, Here are all the Lartz marriages that are online. You can order a copy of the license from IRAD. This address will tell you what to do: http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/marrcopy.html LARTZ, CHARLES & REPENDORF, FREDERICKA MCLEAN 11/25/1859 00D/0055 LARTZ, CHARLES & KLINKHAMMER, ALVINA COOK 09/14/1885 / 00095357 LARTZ, CHARLES W & MARQUARDT, MATHILDA MCLEAN 04/12/1900 L /11 14194 LARTZ, FRED & LANG, MARY COOK 04/19/1892 / 00181695 LARTZ, JOHN & SIEBERT, ELLA COOK 11/23/1892 / 00192684 LARTZ, LOUIS & RIEBE, LOUISE MCLEAN 12/03/1884 00I/0300 LARTZ, WILLIAM & FREY, BERTHA CARROLL 12/24/1887 B/ 83 3304 LARTZ, WILLIAM C C & KRAUTWADELL, CLARA COOK 12/01/1881 / 00057922 -- Pamela Haithcock McLean County Illinois Heritage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~henline Bits and Pieces of McLean County http://members.tripod.com/~GenFamily/index.html

Does anyone on the list know of a book written by Bertha Halliday about the McLean Co. or Bellflower area? She was a teacher in Bellflower schools, had never married and no one seems to know what has become of that history. It is suppose to have quite a bit of the McIntyre/Halliday families in it. Thank you for your help. -- Pamela Haithcock McLean County Illinois Heritage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~henline Bits and Pieces of McLean County http://members.tripod.com/~GenFamily/index.html

Mary Ann.........It was in the Illinois State Archives.Here is an address for another source: Illinois Soldiers' and Sailors' Children's School Historic Preservation Society 219 Eisenhower #3 Bloomington, IL 61701 309-827-0428 Helen in Idaho

Sheri, There is a wealth of information on the home. The Illinois State Archives have all the records. You can download a copy of the index of what they have off of the internet. <A HREF="http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/arc_home.html">Welcome to the Illinois State Archives</A> Go to this site..........click on Descriptive Inventory of the Archives...... then Search..the Descriptive Inventory........ Go down to 255.000...Illinois Soldier's and Sailor's Home You can download this list of what they have. Also I will give you an e-mail address of a man who was in this [email protected] Hope this all helps you...... Helen in Idaho

Thank you Pam for your interest. I did find the orpahage, "The Soldiers and Sailors Children's Home". Found a website with a picture of it, those who attended there have a reunion each year and I found that the records are in the Illinois State Archives , their book of holdings, is on the internet. There is also a Historical Preservation Society for this home. People have been so wonderful. I even found my grandfather listed in the home in the 1900, McLean Co. Census. if anyone else is interested in this I will give you an e-mail address of a man who is involved with all this. [email protected] <A HREF="http://www.legends.ca/orphanages/orphanages.html">Legends & Legacies - Orphanages</A> <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~tonytiger/index.html"><H EAD><TITLE><HEAD><TITLE>ISSCS "Homer's" Website</A> These two links are very helpful too. Helen in idaho

I am looking for information on Fred Lartz, who I believe is my great, great grandfather. He was born in McLean County about 1840. He may have married a woman named Elizabeth. Any information you can give me about the LARTZ name will be appreciated. Thank you, Yvonne [email protected]

I wanted to let everyone interested in eastern McLean Co. that I have added a message board to my site. You are more than welcome to post your families, queries or comments. I hope we can all help each other. Bits and Pieces of McLean County http://members.tripod.com/~GenFamily/index.html Pam Haithcock

Hi list. A woman sent me this email asking for help. I told her that Normal was definitely in McLean Co. but I couldn't tell her anything else. I believe there was some discussion about this a while back, but I couldn't remember. I told her how to join the mailing list, but I'm not sure it worked for her. Could you please help her out? The following is her message. "I believe that Normal is in McLean Co. I am trying to find out about an orphanage that existed there for children of veterans of the Civil War. Do you know of any such place. My grandfather and his little brother, Edward and Leslie MOREY were in there around 1897 to about 1913. Thank You Helen in idaho [email protected] " -- Pam Haithcock McLean County Illinois Heritage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~henline Bits and Pieces of McLean County http://members.tripod.com/~GenFamily/index.html

I would also like to know about tht orphanage . Where it is and if we could get a list of names of children who were there . Are there any old photos . Would the Geneaology society for Mclean have any info onit ? anyone out there know ? thanks sheri

I'm sorry but I will be unable to do ANY lookups in McLean County IL until al least the end of July, 2000. I want to thank all of you who wished me well. God willing and the creek don't rise I will be up and about again soon. Carol Staats

INTRODUCTION This volume is an index to the McLean County [Probate Records] (record series 3/0096/03) located at the Illinois Regional Archives Depository (IRAD) at Illinois State University in Normal. Although IRAD holds probate records from McLean County dating from 1834 to 1934, this volume only indexes the probate records through August 1900. The index was prepared as a cooperative project between the Illinois State Archives and the Lexington Genealogical & Historical Society. The index provides the name of the estate, the volume and page number of the probate record, and the date span of the probate volume. The type of case is also frequently listed when available. Please note that the date span shown for each entry is the date span for the entire volume, not for the individual probate record. This volume indexes the following volumes in the probate record series: Volume B 27 September 1834 18 March 1838 Volume F 17 December 27 June 1855 Volume G 02 July 1855 16 October 1858 Volume H 01 November 1858 30 July 1861 Volume J 01 August 1861 17 December 1864 Volume K 19 December 1864 12 April 1867 Volume L 15 April 1867 18 December 1869 Volume M 20 December 1869 14 October 1871 Volume N 16 October 1871 29 November 1873 Volume 0 29 November 1873 15 September 1875 Volume P 16 September 1875 16 December 1876 Volume R 18 December 1876 17 May 1878 Volume S 20 May 1878 19 June 1880 Volume T 21 June 1880 16 September 1882 Volume U 18 September 1882 11 April 1885 Volume V 13 April 1885 19 February 1887 Volume W 21 February 1887 1 December 1888 Volume X 03 December 1888 31 January 1891 Volume Y 02 February 1891 31 March 1893 Volume Z 03 April 1893 28 June 1895 Volume 26 01 July 1895 31 October 1896 Volume 27 06 September 1897 29 April 1899 Volume 28 01 May 1899 30 August 1900 The IRAD holdings do not include volume A (1831-September 1834) or volumes C through E (March 1839 - December 1849). Volumes I and Q were apparently skipped in the alphabetical sequence. A ten-month gap in the date span exists between volumes 26 and 27. Which offices kept probate records? Probate records created prior to 1848 were maintained by the Probate Court in McLean County. The Constitution of 1848 moved original jurisdiction in probate cases to the newly created County Court. Therefore, probate records recorded after 1848 were maintained by the County Court acting in probate. The Constitution of 1870 gave the General Assembly the authority to create probate courts in counties with populations of 50,000 or more. However, probate jurisdiction remained with the County Court in McLean County until January 1, 1964 when the functions of both the probate courts and county courts were transferred to the circuit courts. What do probate records contain? Probate records generally show the court term; the names of the estate, judge and the court clerk; the petitions, bonds, oaths, and letters of estate administrators, executors, guardians and conservators; the court's approval of estate inventories, appraisement bills, petitions to sell property, reports of sales, accounts, reports of receipts and expenditures, and final reports; and the orders and decrees of the court. The record may also show the names of heirs, claims against the estate, and recordation of wills. The County Court also heard cases involving adoption, tax delinquency, commitment of the insane and feeble-minded, naturalization, guardianship of minor children, conservatorship of the insane, blind and deaf & dumb. The County Court also recorded oaths and bonds of court officials and petitions of good moral character. These cases were occasionally recorded in the Probate Record when the County Court was acting in its probate capacity. How do I request copies of the records in this index? Requests for copies of records found in the index may be made to the IRAD depository at Illinois State University. The address for the Illinois State University depository is*: IRAD Depository Williams Hall-5500 Illinois State University Normal, IL 61761-5500 Telephone: (309) 452-6027 IRAD also welcomes researchers to visit the depository and use the records in-person. The depository is open Monday through Friday from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. The depository is closed on Saturdays and Sundays as well as state and university holidays. Researchers are urged to call ahead before planning a visit.

Here are my family names 1---John William WILSON (b; in Hickory County, MO in 1873-74) m: Kathrine J/Catherine J. LINDSAY (b: in Ashford, OH in 1883/84 & d: in 1915) in MN 1910 census>in Emmons County, ND in 1912>Cowlitz County, WA by 1920s-w/or w/out Katherine/Catherine Maybe passed through IL at some time or other WALTERS/GUTHRIE connected w/this family 2---Lebbeus FORDYCE/FORDICE m: Katherine Taylor (from McLean County, IL) & Catherine Carpenter, both in early 1800s CHILDREN: 17 but working on only 2 of them Helen FORDYCE/FORDICE (b: in Guernsey County, OH circa 1830s & d: in McLean County, IL aft. 10/17/1852) m: Cornelius Taylor RATHBONE (b: in Lawrenceburg, IL on 11/12/1818 & d: in Bellview, ID on 3/16/1907) on 8/25/1851 in McLean County, IL (wife 2) Helen & Cornelius had one child, Napoleon Boneparte RATHBONE b: in Iowa City, IA on 10/18/1852 Abigail FORDYCE/FORDICE (!/2 sister to Helen) (b: 3/14/1836 & d: in ID in 6/1930) m: Cornelius Taylor RATHBONE above (wife 3) Abigail & Cornelius had many children Jeannie :) Publisher of The Jericho Wall Genealogy Newsletter w/the focus on the missing women in our trees.

The site for group sheets, checklists is a real boon. Thanks, Debbie Rosanne

Is there anyone on the list who has access to the 1860 census that can find all the Phillips in McLean County and send them to me?? It may be an answer to my brickwall ~~DEBBIE FROM ILLINOIS~~

I got this from another email: A place to go and print up genealogy forms.:<a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ruthann/charts/chartsrecbooks.htm">click here</a> ~~DEBBIE FROM ILLINOIS~~

Try St. Charles, MO. I've found most young people crossed the line into MO. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Hager <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, April 08, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: [ILMCLEAN-L] Where did they Elope? >If a young couple were to elope from McLean Co. about 1908 where would they >have went? I've already tried St. Louis MO & the city of St.Louis for their >marriage because someone mentioned the train went there from McLean Co. & >their parents had married there near 1912. Does anyone have any good >ideas???? What is the closest county courthouse outside McLean Co.to the >Downs or Gillum area???? >Also the bride was only 16....did Illinois marry couples that young without >parents permission....or did they have to cross the state line??? Thank >you Lesley > >----------------------------------------------- >FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com >Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > >

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