I checked with IRAD, also, and parents' names were not required until about 1874. Thanks for responding to my query. Pat Littlefield

Thanks for your input. Pat Littlefield

Hi: Thanks for your information. I just discovered the Pantagraph is indexed at the Bloomington Library. My daughter and I checked it out. It is far from thorough, but I am going to give it a try tomorrow. Pat Littlefield

Here's a good one - I tried to send the Pantagraph my father's obituary and they want "cash up front" to print it. Between them and the pirates at the County Clerk's office it certainly doesn't bode well for the genealogists of McLean County! Keith Rodgers

I know there is a marriage application and a marriage license. The application would show much more information, I think. Each county is different and I always call ahead to find the charges and procedure. I always tell them it's for genealogy purposes because in some counties that makes a difference in price (certified vs copy) I usually start at the archives because they look up everything concerning an event and the price is very reaonable in my opinion. I can accept a copy in most cases and it doesn't have to be certified for my purposes. Peg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Weissinger" <susinger@hotmail.com> To: <ILMCLEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: [ILMCLEAN-L] Re: Marriage at McLean County Courthouse > I have also sent to the courthouse for a marriage performed in 1880. I paid > $10 and got a modern day equivalent although certified. It had both parties > names and their parents. Later I found that the Illinois Archives would > look up copies of the original entries. I sent away for a copy and got back > much more information. I found that my great great grandfather was not > residing in McLean County at the time. They also asked him his nationality. > > The copies I were sent also listed some of the people recorded before and > after their visit to the courthouse. For one great great uncle, it showed > that he and his future bride were the next couple to get their license after > Adlai Stevenson. Since sone of the family worked at the "Pantagraph", it > was a nice little piece of history. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== ILMCLEAN Mailing List ==== > > Email or ISP changes: unsubscribe your old email address prior to the change effective date. Once your new email address is effective then resubscribe using your new address.

Once you get the information from the website, you can contact Illinois State University Regional Archives (address is on the website). For $1.00 for the first page and another ten cents for pages after that, they will copy the original record for you. I found my great-grandparents names, and because my great-grandmother was under the age of 15, I also got my great-great grandfather's names from the marriage record, in addition to the minister's name, places of birth, witnesses, and place of marriage. My grandparents were married in 1901, great-grandparents in 1875.

I have also sent to the courthouse for a marriage performed in 1880. I paid $10 and got a modern day equivalent although certified. It had both parties names and their parents. Later I found that the Illinois Archives would look up copies of the original entries. I sent away for a copy and got back much more information. I found that my great great grandfather was not residing in McLean County at the time. They also asked him his nationality. The copies I were sent also listed some of the people recorded before and after their visit to the courthouse. For one great great uncle, it showed that he and his future bride were the next couple to get their license after Adlai Stevenson. Since sone of the family worked at the "Pantagraph", it was a nice little piece of history. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

It is the archives www.cyberdriveillinois.com Genealogy: Colebaugh, Cox, Elsey, Freeman, Ingraham, Kinney, Lyons, McKeeman, Mayo, Stiger, & Pansier, Vander Mark in Netherlands. Databases posted at rootsweb.com: babschase, babsmark, babs29

The Illinois State Archives or Clerk has a statewide marriage index. Start there. I'm no good at cutting and pasting but I do have it checked as a Favoite. cyberdrive something something. It also has a link to what else they have. Costs nothing. Barb Genealogy: Colebaugh, Cox, Elsey, Freeman, Ingraham, Kinney, Lyons, McKeeman, Mayo, Stiger, & Pansier, Vander Mark in Netherlands. Databases posted at rootsweb.com: babschase, babsmark, babs29

the bloomington library has 2 book in there illinois history room only problem is it only give name of groom name of bride and date of marriage was looking thru it the other day might give more info just can't remember

Have you tried any of the public libraries for marriages. A lot of libraries hold a lot of info, especially marriages and obits from newspapers. I would realy try to verify first as it can get very costly sending for something. I have spent money, as one person on list has said, only to pay for research and have nothing. The only other thing I might suggest is sending info to Bureau of Vital Statistics, Springfield, IL. If you are going to spend money, that would be the more likely place to find the marriage.

My complaint about ordering records from McLean County courthouse is that each one costs $10 and if they don't find anything they keep your money for a search fee. I try to verify anything I want from there somewhere else first but as a last resort, I will send there but I want to be pretty sure they have what I want first. Peg > > What kind of information have other McLean County researchers found on > marriage records at the courthouse for around 1860 or shortly later?. > Apparently by 1880 the names of the couples' parents were given which is a > great help, especially for those who came from Ireland and other countries > and whose parents remained behind in the "old country?. > > I am trying to decide if it would be worth while to order those of my > family. > > Thanks, > Pat Littlefield > > > > > > ==== ILMCLEAN Mailing List ==== > > Email or ISP changes: unsubscribe your old email address prior to the change effective date. Once your new email address is effective then resubscribe using your new address.

What kind of information have other McLean County researchers found on marriage records at the courthouse for around 1860 or shortly later?. Apparently by 1880 the names of the couples' parents were given which is a great help, especially for those who came from Ireland and other countries and whose parents remained behind in the "old country?. I am trying to decide if it would be worth while to order those of my family. Thanks, Pat Littlefield

I sent for and received a marriage record dated 1840 from McLean Co and it just listed the parties names, the date of marriage and the minister's name. No other information. At the time I needed the wife's maiden name and she was just listed with her first husbands surname. Not much help there. Eventually I did learn of her maiden name through other sources. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <PetieL8613@aol.com> To: <ILMCLEAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: [ILMCLEAN-L] Info in early marriage records > > What kind of information have other McLean County researchers found on > marriage records at the courthouse for around 1860 or shortly later?. > Apparently by 1880 the names of the couples' parents were given which is a > great help, especially for those who came from Ireland and other countries > and whose parents remained behind in the "old country?. > > I am trying to decide if it would be worth while to order those of my > family. > > Thanks, > Pat Littlefield > > > > > > ==== ILMCLEAN Mailing List ==== > > Email or ISP changes: unsubscribe your old email address prior to the change effective date. Once your new email address is effective then resubscribe using your new address. >

Just testing my abibiliy to posts. Barb Genealogy: Colebaugh, Cox, Elsey, Freeman, Ingraham, Kinney, Lyons, McKeeman, Mayo, Stiger, & Pansier, Vander Mark in Netherlands. Databases posted at rootsweb.com: babschase, babsmark, babs29

I would check with your ISP or the documentation you received for your email account and verify that you are sending out the correct email return address. Then I would check that address with the default one in your email program to make sure that they match. Hope this helps. If not, let me know. Here is what I just received when I tried to send you a reply: Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). <babs29@att.bi.com>: Sorry, I couldn't find any host named att.bi.com. (#5.1.2) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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I need a couple of lookups in the Illinois Soundex for 1900 and 1910, if such exist. Will the Bloomington do this sort of thing?Thanks. John Chapman Austin, Texas Searching Chapman, Curry, Lappin & O'Neal in McLean Co.

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According to the IL Archives Myrtle Susan Marshall age 63 died 5-24-1949 in McLean Co. The online records only go through 1950 so Thomas isn't there. You can get a copy of the death certificate from the McLean County Courthouse. The IL Archives website is: http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/genealogy/forms/idphdeathsrch.html Carlene