This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/2816/Zg.2ADI/135.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Erin, Yes, there is a Charles among the 12 children that Abigal and Lemuel Hawley Smith produced. I believe all 12 were born in Johnson, VT. He was the 5th of 12 and George was the 7th of 12. My great grandmother was #12. You can get all the children's names and birth dates on RootsWeb.com. Enter Lemuel Hawley Smith and click search. Then click on WorldConnect. The entry you want is the 5th one. That one lists all 12 children. I know a little bit about the Langdells, if you are interested. Also, I have tons of information on the Smiths. I hope this helps. Donna