Cindy, The street address given in the phone directory for the Industry School is 306 East South Street. It is a major crossroad intersection & will have a big sign denoting that. I'm pretty positive it would state "Vermont" to the right if you were coming from the south from Rushville. If from that direction, you will be at the very far south edge of Industry. There will be farm fields on the NE, SE & SW corners of the intersection & the school will be on the NW corner of it. Mary Jane +++++++++ Cindy Foster wrote: > Hi all, > I'd like to thank Melissa for her help in discovering how to gain access > to the Willey Cemetery. xxxx > Let me know if you know the name of the street by the school. > > Thanks, > Cindy

Hi all, I'd like to thank Melissa for her help in discovering how to gain access to the Willey Cemetery. The cemetery is on land owned by Freeman United Coal. Since they are actively blasting the area, one must first checkin with someone at Freman United Coal Emergency Checkpoint 1. They will take you to the cemetery and you can stay as long as you need. They just need to know who is on the property for safety reasons. The hours are 7-3:30 M-Fri. Someone is also there on Saturdays. To get to the checkpoint: Go to the south end of Industry, IL on the main hwy. Go west on the street by the school (I'm trying to get more specific names for the school or street, if anyone can help) After 4 1/2 or 5 miles, at the 1st stop sign turn left Go approximately 1 1/2 -2 miles and you'll see the sign "Freeman Emergency Checkpoint 1" on the right. At this point you'll leave the paved road and go approximately 2 miles back to the building. The lady in the office Mon-Fri is Delores Beck. The phone number is 309-254-3333. I've called this number on several occasins and gotten thru, other times I get a message that it has been disconnected. Let me know if you know the name of the street by the school. Thanks, Cindy

Susan, Yes, Sciota still exists. From Macomb take Route 67 north to Route 9. Turn left on Route 9 (at the south edge of Good Hope) & follow xxxxxx miles to Sciota Road turnoff. The Northwest Unit School District high school building is at the intersection. Going north past the school, follow the county road into Sciota. Sciota is pronounced "Sye-oh-ta." I can't help with the Yeast farm question. Perhaps someone else will have information on that. This website is helpful in finding cemeteries and small-town locations: http://www.topozone.com On this version, using the "large" option at the top of map, you will be able to see Sciota, Good Hope and the top portion of Macomb all at the same time if you will scroll to the far right and down: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=40.5608&lon=-90.7517&s=100&size=l Susan McClure wrote: > I am a descendant of Joseph Price and Elizabeth Clister Griffin who > lived in Scotia Twp/Good Hope Post Office from about 1864-1870. Joseph's > sister, Nancy Griffin married John L. Yeast and they bought a farm on > Section 13 of Scotia Twp. in the Spring 1868. The Yeasts were still > living in Scotia in 1882 (according to the History of Scotia on the web > site). My daughter and I are driving to the midwest this summer from > California and plan to go through towns our ancestors were from. I found > Macomb on a AAA map, but does Scotia still exist? Would someone > familiar with the area provide directions as to which road one would > take to go through Scotia and where the Yeast farm might have been. > Thank you, Susan McClure

I am a descendant of Joseph Price and Elizabeth Clister Griffin who lived in Scotia Twp/Good Hope Post Office from about 1864-1870. Joseph's sister, Nancy Griffin married John L. Yeast and they bought a farm on Section 13 of Scotia Twp. in the Spring 1868. The Yeasts were still living in Scotia in 1882 (according to the History of Scotia on the web site). My daughter and I are driving to the midwest this summer from California and plan to go through towns our ancestors were from. I found Macomb on a AAA map, but does Scotia still exist? Would someone familiar with the area provide directions as to which road one would take to go through Scotia and where the Yeast farm might have been. Thank you, Susan McClure

Hi Folks: If anyone on the list has any information on this family, I would certainly like to hear from you. Thanks in advance for your efforts. Name: Robert Anderson Covey - -------------------------------------- Birth: 11 Oct 1838 Morgan County, Illinois Death: 22 Jul 1911 Wagoner, Wagoner, Oklahoma Burial: 23 Jul 1911 Elmwood Cemetery, Wagoner, Wagoner, Oklahoma Father: Robert Covey (~1805-~1839) Mother: Anna Dodd (~1803->1863) Other Spouses: Lucinda Dalton Marriage: 1870 Morgan County, Illinois - -------------------------------------- Spouse: Mary Jane Talkington - -------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1851 Children: - -------------------------------------- 1 F: Electa E Covey Birth: abt 1872 Morgan County, Illinois - -------------------------------------- 2 F: Sarah Abigail Covey Birth: abt 1873 Morgan County, Illinois - -------------------------------------- 3 F: Clarissa J Covey Birth: abt 1875 Morgan County, Illinois - -------------------------------------- 4 F: Eveline Covey Birth: abt 1877 Morgan County, Illinois - -------------------------------------- 5 M: Charles E Covey Birth: abt 1880 Illinois http://home.att.net/~billcovey/index.html www.1stBooks.com Bill Covey Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz Creator of: Ol' Tubby Joe Stottlemeyer

Hello -- This is my first time to post to this list: Can anyone help me confirm both of the parents of the following couple? JAMES F. DERRY married ALICE MAE REXROAT on 17 May 1899 in McDonough County, Illinois. Where did the go to after their marriage? They seem to disappear. When did they die and where are they buried? Thanks so much! Joan Derry MDMama2841@aol.com

Cindy What Willey's are you looking for? Kathleen

Where are these cemeteries located in McDonough Co? (I'd like to photograph tombstones there next month) Willey Old Macomb Thanks, Cindy

Just curious - do you have a Plainey Wiley (Willey?) in your family (so named because he was born while the family was crossing the plains). A story handed down in our family mentions him, but my mother didn't know if he was a neighbor or relative of the Harrisons. Lorrell Cindy Foster wrote: > > Hi, > > We're planning to visit McDonough, Fulton,Schuyler, Fulton, and possibly > Warren Co. the week of June 17-23 and would appreciate some recommendations > about where to stay. > > Can anyone tell me the hours for the courthouse and suggestions for > research there? > > When in McDonough Co., where might I purchase the publications the > Genealogy Society has for sale? Are these publications available for > viewing at the Macomb library??? > > Are there publications available for the Willey and Old(?) Macomb > cemeteries? I'm needing to visit these three cemeteries, but have no idea > how large they are or where the people I'm looking for may be buried. > > Any other suggestions would be most appreciated. > > I'm very excited to finally visit the area that I've researched off and on > for several years. The McDonough Co. families of the greatest interest to > me are the STUFFLEBEAMs and WiILLEYs. > > Thanks so much for your time. > > Cindy Foster

Hi, We're planning to visit McDonough, Fulton,Schuyler, Fulton, and possibly Warren Co. the week of June 17-23 and would appreciate some recommendations about where to stay. Can anyone tell me the hours for the courthouse and suggestions for research there? When in McDonough Co., where might I purchase the publications the Genealogy Society has for sale? Are these publications available for viewing at the Macomb library??? Are there publications available for the Willey and Old(?) Macomb cemeteries? I'm needing to visit these three cemeteries, but have no idea how large they are or where the people I'm looking for may be buried. Any other suggestions would be most appreciated. I'm very excited to finally visit the area that I've researched off and on for several years. The McDonough Co. families of the greatest interest to me are the STUFFLEBEAMs and WiILLEYs. Thanks so much for your time. Cindy Foster

I have been looking for my great grandmother for some time. The other day I discovered a record of Marriage for Elizabeth Johns to John Lindenmeier in McDonough Co. Il in 1861. My grandfather John Lindenmeier was born in McDonough Co. or Quincy, Adams Co. Il in 1861-1864 and his father, John, remarried in Mc Donough Co. Il in 1865. I would like to find out more about Elizabeth and her family. Particularly if she past away in 1861-64 and who her parents and siblings were etc., I do not see what I need in the 1860 Census. Does anyone have any suggestions for this research? Fred Clarke fclarke@juno.com fclarke@worldnet.att.net Arvada Co. 303 424 2560 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello Listers, I am new to the list so thought I would throw this out and see if anyone can connect to it. John Patrick Colvin born July 15, 1884 in McDONALD Co. Illinois. Parents were Elijah Colvin and Ruth Keeling. This information gleaned from a marriage certificate between John and Mary Ethel May Robertson born February 2, 1897 in Staffordshire, England. They were married in Kamloops B. C., Canada on March 24, 1912. Witnesses were Bathiah Robertson mother of the bride and Thomas Hardin(g) Colvin brother of the groom. The marriage was performed in the home of Bathiah Robertson. If anyone has anything and I mean anything to add to this family PLEASE contact me at lilgram@gateway.net I am the granddaughter of both of them but at the moment I am searching the COLVIN line. I understand that John had a lot of brothers and sisters among them Thomas the oldest and William, Ryer, Manual, Martha, twins named Maude and Daude (these were their NICK names) George,Inez (she was kicked to death by the wicked Stepmother or so the story goes) there were at least 13 kids in this family. There is really a juicy story that goes with the children leaving HOME. If you connect I'll tell you all about it. But only if you connect. Maybe you have some good ones for me too. Best of regards Lynda Saxton In Spokane, Washington

--part1_4e.5cd7b27.26584389_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_4e.5cd7b27.26584389_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <HAYDEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v73.12) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:35:35 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.30]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:35:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05434; Thu, 18 May 2000 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: ldullom@iolinc.net Thu May 18 08:32:05 2000 Message-ID: <01c501bfc0de$74972b40$8038fea9@pepermintpatty> Reply-To: "The Ulloms" <Debbie.Ullom@iName.com> From: ldullom@iolinc.net (Ullom, Larry) Old-To: <VAALLEGH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:33:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: [HAYDEN-L] NARA is trying to increase fees dramatically - Contact NARA before June 26, 2000 Resent-Message-ID: <YndhHD.A.kRB.6zAJ5@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: HAYDEN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: HAYDEN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <HAYDEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/828 X-Loop: HAYDEN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: HAYDEN-L-request@rootsweb.com I received the following email which noted a proposed large increase in fees from the National Archives and Records Administration (effective THIS September). The biggest change will be in the military pension records. We will no longer be able to request just 20 pages or so for $10. We will HAVE to pay for the WHOLE file and it will cost $40 !! I agree that we should band together and voice our protest over this! Here is a summary of the increases (go to the sites to see for yourself: Proposed fees at: http://www.nara.gov/nara/fees-pro.html and current fees at: http://webgopher.nara.gov/11/about/cfr/public/1258.txt): DATES: Comments must be received by June 26, 2000. ADDRESSES: Submit comments to the Regulation Comment Desk (NPLN), Room 4100, National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001. Comments may also be faxed to (301)713-7270. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Nancy Allard on (301)713-7360. PROPOSED NEW FEES (with current cost in brackets): - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Type of record and order form Price - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) Passenger arrival lists (order form NATF Form 81).......... $17.25 [was $10] (2) Federal Census requests (order form NATF Form 82).......... $17.50 [was $6] (3) Eastern Cherokee applications to the Court of Claims (order $17.50 [was $10] form NATF Form 83)............................................ (4) Land entry records (order form NATF 84).................... $17.75 [was $10] (5) Bounty land warrant application files (order form NATF Form $17.25 [?? was $10 ??] 85)........................................................... (6) Pension files more than 75 years old (order form NATF Form $40.00 [was $10 for up to 20 pages] 85) will ONLY send WHOLE file may be 100+ plus pages................. (7) Military service files more than 75 years old (order form $17.00 [was $10] NATF Form 86)................................................. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (a) Certification: $6. [was $10] (b) Electrostatic copying (in order to preserve certain records which are in poor physical condition, NARA may restrict customers to photographic or microfilm copies instead of electrostatic copies): - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- Service Fee - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (1) Paper-to-paper copies (up to and including 11 in. by 17 $0.15 per copy. [was $0.10 per copy] in.) made by the customer on a NARA self-service copier. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (2) Paper-to-paper copies (up to and including 11 in. by 17 $0.50 per copy. [was $0.50 per copy or $10 for] in.) made by NARA staff. [1st 20 & $5 ea. adtl. block of 20] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (3) Oversized electrostatic copies......................... $2.70 per linear foot. [same] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (4) Electrostatic copies (22 in. by 34 in.)................ $2.70 per copy. [same] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (5) Microfilm or microfiche to paper copies made by the $0.30 per copy. [was $0.25 per copy] customer on a NARA self-service copier. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (6) Microfilm or microfiche to paper copies made by NARA $1.90 per copy. [was $1.75 per copy] staff. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (c) Original negative microfilm (paper-to-microfilm): $0.70 per image. [was $10 for 1st 15 & $14 ea. adtl. block of 20] (d) Diazo microfiche duplication: $2.50 per fiche. [was $2.10 per fiche] (e) Self-service video copying in the Motion Picture, Sound and Video Research Room: - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- Service Fee - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (1) Initial 90-min use of video copying station with 120- $9.75. [was $20] minute videocassette. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (2) Additional 90-minute use of video copying station with $6.25. [was $14] no videocassette. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (3) Blank 120-minute VHS videocassette..................... $3.50. [was $6] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- (f) Self-service Polaroid prints: $5.75 per print. [was $9] (g) Unlisted processes: For reproductions not covered by this fee schedule, see also Sec. 1258.4. Fees for other reproduction processes are computed upon request. ------- -----Original Message----- From: GaleFuller@aol.com <GaleFuller@aol.com> To: ALTALLAP-L@rootsweb.com <ALTALLAP-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: [ALTALLAPOOSA] Important to Each of You >Dear fellow researchers: > >I know that many of you have ordered documents from the National Archives and >Records Administration called NARA for short. This is the federal agency >which has *our* pension records, bounty land records, military records, >passenger lists as well as other records of importance to a genealogist. > >NARA is proposing a rate increase. Not a small one to cover the cost of >living but a VERY LARGE increase! The records most often sought, the pension >records of our ancestors, will have a 400% increase in Sept. unless we make >our voices heard. > >Several years ago, when NARA was threatened with a dramatic funding cut, they >appealed to genealogist to write and express our opinions and >dissatisfaction. We did and basically *saved* them. Now it is our turn to >speak out on this issue too. > >First visit this site, it is the NARA site that tells you about the proposed >fee increases. Some of you can hyperlink and others will need to copy and >paste the page. Either way, read it carefully. Yes, it is your typical >government document full of mumble jumble and you have to wade through all of >that. But the new fees are listed. All increases are far more than a modest >increase! > >Now is the time we can act together. We can write an email, send a fax or >better yet, a snail mail letter to NARA. In addition, notify your congressman >and any other official you know to express your dissatisfaction in this most >unfair rate increase. > >The time is NOW. The cut off date for getting your opinions in is June 26, >2000. Although the increase is not scheduled until Sept., we must act now to >get them to rethink this gigantic increase. > >Thank you for reading this. Please take the time to write a similar message >to each of the mailing list you receive, and send to them as well as to each >genealogist that you personally correspond with and encourage them to do the >same. Together we can be a Million Genealogist On Line Against Fee >Increases!! > >With elections not far away, I do not think congress wants to make a VERY >Large group of constituents upset!! So go below and click or copy and see >for yourselves what is proposed and then write your letter now, not tomorrow, >not next week. NOW. > > <A HREF="http://www.nara.gov/nara/fees-pro.html">Proposed Rule NARA Fee >Schedule-36 CFR Part 1258</A> or > >http://www.nara.gov/nara/fees-pro.html > >Thanks. Gale ==== HAYDEN Mailing List ==== ---- HAYDEN Family History HomePage ---- Submit your information to be posted Now moving to www.hayden.org --part1_4e.5cd7b27.26584389_boundary--

I am searching for information on a Dora (KALLASCH) HATCH born @ 1900 to Louis and Mae (WOOD) KALLASCH. After Louis died in 1941 Mae married Russell BACKUS. Mae died in 1960 at the age of 85 in Colchester. If anyone has any information on this family could they please contact me? Thank you !! Vicki (COLLINS) PERRY Vperry@avip.com

On January 14, 1869, Alexander Hollingworth and Cynthia Ferguson were married in McDonough Co., IL. Cynthia was my gg grandaunt, and I am interested in finding out who the children of this couple were, and where they moved to after their marriage. Many thanks for any help. A. Utick

I am looking for help on the following line. Jacob my ggrandfather, is said to have had 26 chhildren But I have only located the following. I do not know where or when his first two wives died. I know he lived in Bernadotte for most of the census returns, but have not found his grave. Phoebe Gauf his daughter was living in Macomb 1880 but is said to have died in 1886 when married To William Peck. Any information would be appreciated. 1 Jacob Gauf b: 1813 in PA on census d: in IL Bernadotte or McComb? .. +Evaline Henderson b: 1813 in OH on census m: Apr 01, 1838 in Coshocton, OH d: Bef. 1853 in OH ......... 2 James W Gauf b: 1839 in OH on census & military papers d: Nov 10, 1861 in Camp Butler, IL ......... 2 Samuel T Gauf b: 1841 in OH on census ............. +Racheal Chambers b: Dec 14, 1845 in OH on census m: Apr 15, 1865 in Fulton Co. IL d: Dec 27, 1880 in Bu. Marietta Cem, Harris Twp, Fulton Co IL ......... 2 Phoebe E. Gauf b: Abt. 1842 in OH on census ? Zanesville area d: 1886 in d. age 45 on I L Faucett biog. sketch,Macomb, IL............ +Henry Sterling b: Abt. 1838 in Illinois m: Mar 24, 1859 in Lewistown, Fulton Co., IL ......... *2nd Husband of Phoebe E. Gauf: ............. +Isaac Faucett b: Apr 01, 1822 in Flushing, Belmont, OH m: Sep 18, 1864 in McDon Co IL d: Dec 18, 1872 in Lincoln, Neb.? Seward? ......... *3rd Husband of Phoebe E. Gauf: ............. +William H. Peck b: 1827 in 48 on Marr Cert NY m: Oct 07, 1875 in Vermont, McDonough Co., IL d: Bef. 1881 in Macomb, McDon., IL? ......... 2 Elizabeth Gauf b: 1843 in OH on census ......... 2 Sarah E Gauf b: 1845 in OH on census ..... 2 Louisa Gauf b: 1848 in OH on census ......... 2 Euratta Gauf b: 1850 in OH on census ? Zanesville area ............. +Reuben Nebergall b: 1840 in VA 40 on 1880 census Fulton Co IL ......... 2 Martha "Mattie" Gauf b: Aug 08, 1851 in near Zanesville OH d: Mar 17, 1910 in bu Bardolph Cem, Mc Don Co. IL ............. +Richard Baldock b: Jun 20, 1849 in KY m: Jan 03, 1871 in Fulton Co, IL d: Jun 21, 1885 in Chalmers, McDon., IL ......... 2 Joshua M Gauf b: 1855 in on census IL Fulton Co b OH ............. +Anna Maria Pilcher b: Abt. 1860 m: Sep 13, 1881 in Fulton Co., , IL ......... 2 Evaline Gauf b: 1859 in OH d: 1935 in Marietta Cem. inscp. Fulton Co, IL ............. +Joshua Clause b: 1860 m: Dec 31, 1882 in Fulton Co. IL d: 1930 in Marietta Cem. inscp. Fulton Co, IL *2nd Wife of Jacob Gauf: .. +Sarah A Carter b: Abt. 1820 m: Nov 03, 1853 in Coshocton Co, OH *3rd Wife of Jacob Gauf: .. +Mary J. Nebergall b: Jan 01, 1834 in VA 46 on 1880 census m: Sep 07, 1869 in McDon Co IL d: Apr 21, 1896 in bu Marietta Cemetery, Harris twp, Ful., IL ......... 2 Jacob H Gauf b: Feb 1872 in IL on 1900 census ............. +Carrie Weaver b: May 13, 1874 in IL on 1900 census m: Jun 18, 1892 in Fulton Co., , IL d: Aug 26, 1950 in Harris twp, Ful., IL ......... 2 George Gauf b: 1873 in 7 on 1880 census b. IL ............. +Irene A Chambers b: Abt. 1875 in Possible marriage m: Mar 05, 1895 in Fulton Co., , IL vharris1@compuserve.com

If any of you tried to e-mail me in past week, I have had server problem and did not receive it. If you did, I apologize and ask that you please repeat and I will answer prompto. Bud Sharpe, bsharpe@webcombo.net

I downloaded an obituary for Edgar Hanan who died Aug 17 1997. Macomb wife was Myrba Barb. Anyone interested please contact me and I will send them a copy. He was born Mar 19 1904 in Macomb. vharris1@compuserve.com

I am new to this list and need help on FAUCETT, GAUF, PECK in Fulton & McDonoough Co: I have copied the following extract from the Macomb Journal, It also appears in a publication called Deaths Abstracted from the Camp Point Journal 1883-1892. GOFF, Jacob - Feb 7 1884 (Not clear is this is newspaper date) Jacob Goff of Chalmers has been married 3 times and father of 30 children, 16 of these born in a little over 17 years. He is 82 years old. Youngest child 7 years. Had 8 sons killed on the union side of the late war, and he also served in the army, "Macomb Journal" This is my ggrandfather, his daughter Phoebe Gauf married Isaac Faucett. She was born in OH ca 1846, mother Evaline Henderson. Another daughter Martha married a Baldock. I have not found his burial site, and only found 1/3 of his children. His 2nd and 3rd wife were in Illinois. Jacob lived at Bernadotte for many years. Phoebe married Wm Peck and moved to Macomb and died ca 1886, need her gravesite. Would love to hear from some of the descendents described above!! vharris1@compuserve.com

Hi All, I am looking for any information/connection on James H (Henry?) CAMPBELL. He married Jane CLARK 16 Dec 1852 in Macomb.Children are Catherine b 1856, Mary E b 1857 Henry N b 1858, Salina J b 1858?, Susan M b abt 1862, Margaret Anne b 1864, Peter C b 1865 all in Scotland Twp?. New info, unsubstantiated, indicates James was born abt 1803 in TN, was in KY until 1833, remarried after death of Jane to Abbey ROBINSON in 1882, Knox Co and died 1893. Other surnames connected are PITTMAN, FROST, LAMB, RUSSELL, KLINE, PREDDY, BELL. Any information is greatly appreciated. Sue Tucson