Good Afternoon EveryOne, Through the generosity of Lister, Brenda Clavin, we have started an Obituary Page. Listers are encouraged to contribute for the benefit of others. Also, Listers may view the listings at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmassac/obituaries.htm Coming Very Soon, the 1850 Massac county Census should be up and running, through the courtesy of Jeremy Atack and Fred Bateman. Mr Atack contacted me and offered to send the information for posting on the web site. I have that material and am trying to adjust it get the pages coded to upload. This is basically your list and your site, managed by this dictator, so please enjoy ... Sincerely, Bill Oliver List and Site Manager Massac County ILGenWeb Project -=-

Barb, I e-mailed you all the info from Massac Co. last week on the Thiekes, Lunbecks, and Minters including Thomas Minters birth record. Did you receive any of it? Probably 3 or 4 messages. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Smith <laurbek@megsinet.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:02 PM Subject: [ILMASSAC] Lunbeck marriages > Sally, Thank you ever so much for the info on the Lunbecks. I have > passed your information to another researcher who is a decendant of > Olive. This l > This is my husbands line and he is decended from Marry(Mary) Lunbeck who > married > John Thieke. Their dau, Dora mar. Thomas Minter of Massac Co. Due to > some very bad spelling mistakes in the 1800 Massac Census I 'think' > Thomas Minters parents were Wesley Minter and Laura J. Minter. The 1900 > census lists Laura J Minter as his mother. > Father gone. Now on the Ill. marriage index there was a Wesley Minter > who mar. Laura > Johnson Askins. in Massac Co in 1878. I didn't put Laura down for most > wanted surnames because I am not sure if it is Johnson or Askins. I have > run across some more unbelieveable middle names than Johnson for > females. > Thank you again, Barb > >

Sally, Thank you ever so much for the info on the Lunbecks. I have passed your information to another researcher who is a decendant of Olive. This l This is my husbands line and he is decended from Marry(Mary) Lunbeck who married John Thieke. Their dau, Dora mar. Thomas Minter of Massac Co. Due to some very bad spelling mistakes in the 1800 Massac Census I 'think' Thomas Minters parents were Wesley Minter and Laura J. Minter. The 1900 census lists Laura J Minter as his mother. Father gone. Now on the Ill. marriage index there was a Wesley Minter who mar. Laura Johnson Askins. in Massac Co in 1878. I didn't put Laura down for most wanted surnames because I am not sure if it is Johnson or Askins. I have run across some more unbelieveable middle names than Johnson for females. Thank you again, Barb

Good Morning Barb, -- they are on the site. :^) Have fun!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmassac/massacsur.htm Richard Smith wrote: > My Massac most wanted are Minter, Lunbeck, and Thieke. Would also like > to have these listed on Massac site. Barb

Hi No relation to the Lunbecks, but thought I would share. Retta Bell Lunbeck (age 24 b. Massac ) dau of Henry Lunbeck & Hannah Yates married George Everett (age 24 b. Massac Co.) son of Septer Everett & Luvick Loderbeck. Apr 6, 1879 at the residence of J D Story Witnesses: John Everet & Mack S Drake Married by J D Story, Justice of the Peace Everett occupation was a farmer First marriage for the both of them. Olive May Lumbeck (age 21 b. Massac) dau of Henry Lumbeck & Hannah Gates married John Noble (age 30 b. Paducah, KY) son of William Noble & Sarah Knight Oct 14, 1883 at the residence of James S Story. Witnesses: James Copley & John M STory Married by James C Story Justice of the Peace First marriage for Olive, Not listed for John Noble. John's occupation listed as farmer. John L Johnson (age 27 b. Harrison Co IN) son of John P Johnson & Sarah Lumbeck married Margaret E Smith (age 19 b. Massac) dau of John W Smith & Elizabeth Thompson on Aug 1, 1880 in Unionville, Massac Co. Witnesses: Joshua K Dugger & B S Dugger Married by W W Dugger Justice of the Peace It was John's second marriage and Margarets first. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Smith" <laurbek@megsinet.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted > My Massac most wanted are Minter, Lunbeck, and Thieke. Would also like > to have these listed on Massac site. Barb > >

My Massac most wanted are Minter, Lunbeck, and Thieke. Would also like to have these listed on Massac site. Barb

Good Evening Don, Your surnames are posted at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmassac/massacsur.htm Bill Oliver Site Manager -=- Don & Crystol wrote: > Thank you Bill Oliver! > > Here are Massac surnames that are direct lines in my family tree: > SEILBECK, GRIEPENSTROH, GURLEY, HAMBY, LAIRD, LEUKERING, MAY, PALMER, > RODENBERG, & WERFELMAN. > > Thank you for stimulating this web-site. > > Donald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:12 PM > Subject: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > > > Good Evening Folks, > > > > My computer has been going "south" lately, crashing at > > least once daily. Sometimes I have to use "go-back" to > > restore programs and I lose some data in the process. > > > > Have I gotten to all the "surnames" etc that I should > > have?? In other words, have I missed anyone who has > > asked me to do something? Please let me know if I > > have. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Bill Oliver > > Site and List Manager > > -=- > > > > P.s. The new computer gets her on Halloween [if on > > time]. > > > > Bill > > -=- > > > > > >

My Father played the Fiddle and my Grandfather Jesse Morrison born in Pine Creek Twp, Ogle county,IL. played the Fiddle plus Guitar. Do not know if music is in the genes or not. But my three siblings plus my self all played two or more musical instruments. My mans cousin bought me a Fiddle in 1980's. Told my 79 yr old uncle i was going to learn to play it. He gave me a big smile and said " Dont know if you will dear thats a tough instrument to play'. But i was determined to learn one song on it and i did. On his 80th birthday party when he walked in my door i picked up the fiddle and played Happy Birthday to him. He got the biggest grin and said " I didnt think you would do it doll". Lost that uncle last winter at age 87. Now only one blood aunt left alive but neither of them knew any thing genealogy wise. Thank you. Viola.

Joseph Everett PRYOR was a Falls Pilot. He was a pilot for riverboats going over the Falls of the Ohio River and took boats (including the Telegraph, a steamboat he co-owned with William RONDEAU and James ALCORN) down to New Orleans. He was born 8-10-1786 VA and died 10-5-1851 near Golconda, Pope Co IL. He was also a Regulator in the Regulator-Flathead War, a Constable, a Tavern owner, a Boatman in the War of 1812, and active in the early Baptist Church in Massac and Pope with William RONDEAU. They organized the 1st Baptist Church of New Orleans. Other PRYOR occupations were: Nephew of Joseph above, Daniel RISINGER PRYOR a Baptist Preacher, teacher, co-founder of the Metropolitan Republican newspaper (it became the Massac Journal), Trustee of Ewing College and Civil War soldier; his father Daniel FARLEY PRYOR was a teacher and farmer. Thanks, Barb Diehl P.O. Box 510092, St. Louis MO 63151-0092

Bill, Yes, Joseph Manuel's parents were Samuel OLIVER & Mary "Polly" McMAHAN. I would love to share as much information with you as I can. I have a fairly good amount on the OLIVERs, so-so on the McMAHANs, and next to nothing on the TAYLORs. What is the best way for you, ged-com, descendancy chart? Just let me know, I am more than willing to adjust. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > Hello Cousin Susan, > > I hope you noticed in the Zion Church history the "infant of Oscar" buried in > the cemetery. > > And, oh yes!! If Joseph Manuel OLIVER's father was Samuel we are DNA > relatives. I want to share OLIVER info with you. And, McMAHAN, and TAYLOR. > In collateral and blood relationships SOIL folk sure are intra-related. > > What a wonderful day. > > Bill Oliver > -=- > >

Hello Cousin Susan, I hope you noticed in the Zion Church history the "infant of Oscar" buried in the cemetery. And, oh yes!! If Joseph Manuel OLIVER's father was Samuel we are DNA relatives. I want to share OLIVER info with you. And, McMAHAN, and TAYLOR. In collateral and blood relationships SOIL folk sure are intra-related. What a wonderful day. Bill Oliver -=- Susan & Del wrote: > Mary Jo, > > Yes, that Charlie WELLS is one of mine as well. I wasn't aware that > Ollie Jane was a BRUSH, though. I have another BRUSH in my family, Rutha, > who married William Oscar WELLS, Charlie's brother. I only have minimal > information on Charlie & Ollie's children, and would love to share > information with you. > > Susan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Jo Moore" <cejay@hcis.net> > To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > > > Susan, > > > > Are your Johnson County WELLS related to any of the WELLS that moved to > > Williamson County? Charlie WELLS md. Ollie Jane BRUSH in Pope Co. Both > died > > in Williamson County but were buried in Zion Cemetery, Pope County, > > Illinois. I have their children's names and dates if these names are > > familiar to you. > > > > Mary Jo > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan & Del" > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:50 PM > > Subject: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > I've been meaning to ask you if your Olivers are connected to the > > Johnson County Olivers. That is my line. My great grandmother was Lela > > Pearl OLIVER who married Tobie WELLS. > > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Bill, I just went out and checked out the website you mentioned. The afore mentioned cousin, Linda Byrd, photocopied the history for me. I thought that it all looked familiar to me, so I checked my copy, and sure enough, it's what I had! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > Hello Susan, > > go to http://home.att.net/~wnoliver/zionill.htm > > There you will find those who buried in the Zion Cemetery, Pope county as of > 1916. This was one of the churches that Richy OLIVER [my Gr Great Granddad] > preached as a circuit minister for the Methodist churches. > > Bill Oliver > Site and List Manager > -=- >

Mary Jo, Yes, that Charlie WELLS is one of mine as well. I wasn't aware that Ollie Jane was a BRUSH, though. I have another BRUSH in my family, Rutha, who married William Oscar WELLS, Charlie's brother. I only have minimal information on Charlie & Ollie's children, and would love to share information with you. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Jo Moore" <cejay@hcis.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > Susan, > > Are your Johnson County WELLS related to any of the WELLS that moved to > Williamson County? Charlie WELLS md. Ollie Jane BRUSH in Pope Co. Both died > in Williamson County but were buried in Zion Cemetery, Pope County, > Illinois. I have their children's names and dates if these names are > familiar to you. > > Mary Jo > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan & Del" > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:50 PM > Subject: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > > > > Bill, > > > > I've been meaning to ask you if your Olivers are connected to the > Johnson County Olivers. That is my line. My great grandmother was Lela > Pearl OLIVER who married Tobie WELLS. > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Bill, I guess I should say hello cousin! Your Richy Oliver was the brother of my 4th great grandfather, Joseph Manuel Oliver. I was just at Zion Cemetery and saw Richy's grave, but I was unaware that he was one of the circuit ministers for Zion. I've gotten lots of information from another cousin, Linda Byrd Oliver, who lives near Vienna. Up until this last summer, I didn't know anything about my Olivers beyond my great-grandma. Seems like I have hit the jackpot this year in finding cousins. I would love to share information sometime! Susan

Hello Don, Did you want these names to be entered on the surname site?? Bill Oliver Site and List Manager -=- Don & Crystol wrote: > Thank you Bill Oliver! > > Here are Massac surnames that are direct lines in my family tree: > SEILBECK, GRIEPENSTROH, GURLEY, HAMBY, LAIRD, LEUKERING, MAY, PALMER, > RODENBERG, & WERFELMAN. > > Thank you for stimulating this web-site. > > Donald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:12 PM > Subject: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > > > Good Evening Folks, > > > > My computer has been going "south" lately, crashing at > > least once daily. Sometimes I have to use "go-back" to > > restore programs and I lose some data in the process. > > > > Have I gotten to all the "surnames" etc that I should > > have?? In other words, have I missed anyone who has > > asked me to do something? Please let me know if I > > have. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Bill Oliver > > Site and List Manager > > -=- > > > > P.s. The new computer gets her on Halloween [if on > > time]. > > > > Bill > > -=- > > > > > >

Hello Susan, go to http://home.att.net/~wnoliver/zionill.htm There you will find those who buried in the Zion Cemetery, Pope county as of 1916. This was one of the churches that Richy OLIVER [my Gr Great Granddad] preached as a circuit minister for the Methodist churches. Bill Oliver Site and List Manager -=- Mary Jo Moore wrote: > Susan, > > Are your Johnson County WELLS related to any of the WELLS that moved to > Williamson County? Charlie WELLS md. Ollie Jane BRUSH in Pope Co. Both died > in Williamson County but were buried in Zion Cemetery, Pope County, > Illinois. I have their children's names and dates if these names are > familiar to you. > > Mary Jo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan & Del" > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:50 PM > Subject: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > > > Bill, > > > > I've been meaning to ask you if your Olivers are connected to the > Johnson County Olivers. That is my line. My great grandmother was Lela > Pearl OLIVER who married Tobie WELLS. > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > >

Bill Oliver, Yes, if you please, I would appreciate having my surnames on the site. Is there something else that I need to do? A question - was Johnson County to be included? What counties were originally with Massac? Are there others? Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > Hello Don, > > Did you want these names to be entered on the surname site?? > > Bill Oliver > Site and List Manager > -=- > > Don & Crystol wrote: > > > Thank you Bill Oliver! > > > > Here are Massac surnames that are direct lines in my family tree: > > SEILBECK, GRIEPENSTROH, GURLEY, HAMBY, LAIRD, LEUKERING, MAY, PALMER, > > RODENBERG, & WERFELMAN. > > > > Thank you for stimulating this web-site. > > > > Donald > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:12 PM > > Subject: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > > > > > Good Evening Folks, > > > > > > My computer has been going "south" lately, crashing at > > > least once daily. Sometimes I have to use "go-back" to > > > restore programs and I lose some data in the process. > > > > > > Have I gotten to all the "surnames" etc that I should > > > have?? In other words, have I missed anyone who has > > > asked me to do something? Please let me know if I > > > have. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Bill Oliver > > > Site and List Manager > > > -=- > > > > > > P.s. The new computer gets her on Halloween [if on > > > time]. > > > > > > Bill > > > -=- > > > > > > > > > > > >

Don & Cystol, Since I have my 1860 Massac Co. Census book out I looked up the RODENBURG name and found 4 households listed. Do you have this info.........if not, would you like me to copy it for you? Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don & Crystol" <laird@centurytel.net> To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > Thank you Bill Oliver! > > Here are Massac surnames that are direct lines in my family tree: > SEILBECK, GRIEPENSTROH, GURLEY, HAMBY, LAIRD, LEUKERING, MAY, PALMER, > RODENBERG, & WERFELMAN. > > Thank you for stimulating this web-site. > > Donald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ILMASSAC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:12 PM > Subject: [ILMASSAC] From Site & List Manager > > > > Good Evening Folks, > > > > My computer has been going "south" lately, crashing at > > least once daily. Sometimes I have to use "go-back" to > > restore programs and I lose some data in the process. > > > > Have I gotten to all the "surnames" etc that I should > > have?? In other words, have I missed anyone who has > > asked me to do something? Please let me know if I > > have. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Bill Oliver > > Site and List Manager > > -=- > > > > P.s. The new computer gets her on Halloween [if on > > time]. > > > > Bill > > -=- > > > > > > > >

Susan, Are your Johnson County WELLS related to any of the WELLS that moved to Williamson County? Charlie WELLS md. Ollie Jane BRUSH in Pope Co. Both died in Williamson County but were buried in Zion Cemetery, Pope County, Illinois. I have their children's names and dates if these names are familiar to you. Mary Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan & Del" Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: [ILMASSAC] Most Wanted Olivers > Bill, > > I've been meaning to ask you if your Olivers are connected to the Johnson County Olivers. That is my line. My great grandmother was Lela Pearl OLIVER who married Tobie WELLS. > > > Susan > > > > > >

Bill, I was reading the Fall 2002 Saga of Southern IL. and noticed two Oliver names mentioned. Maybe they are yours. Jonesboro Gazette Obituary Index, 1884-1886, Union Co., IL. 12 Apr. 1884 Fred OLIVER died of typhoid pneumonia Friday (11 Apr 1884). 24 July 1886 D.Y. OLIVER, kinsman of L.C. OLIVER, died Tuesday (20 Jul 1886), buried in Odd Fellows Cemetery. Born 4 Nov 1836. He left a wife, three sons and one daughter.