Fancy that Linda! I have a great great grandfather Downing who went off to the Civil War too. <g> He didn't come back, dying in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, while there with the 106th Illinois. I assume he went willingly -- a couple of his brother-in-laws, also Downings but another line, and some Downing cousins also joined the 106th in Lincoln. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/01

Cheryl, that may have been true in some areas, but it seemed that in our area of Pennsylvania there seemed to be alot of 30 - 40 year olds that joined. Some for the duration of the war. I can list every man in Co F, 143rd PVI and tell you exactly how old they were. I believe there was only one that was in his 20's. Now, my great great grandfather Downing went off to war in 1862 at the age of 36 with a wife that was 3 months pregnant and five children under the age of 11! I think if I had been grandmother Downing he may have been shot before he made it to the recruitment camp! <grin> We were pretty rural back then and "town" is still 18 miles from the homestead (that means trees instead of sidewalks). Flour didn't come pre-packaged, like henny penny had to be taken to the mill and central heating was around the cook stove - that burnt wood which was not delivered by a nice man in a 4-wheel drive truck. Running water was only if the kid was 10 who was sent to get it from the well. No forumula, no disposable diapers. In a surviving letter back home he asks her for understanding and hopefully that she not be "mad" at him!!! There were a few young "bucks" signing up for adventure and travel. But the majority of men in our area of northeastern Pennsylvania believed strongly in the Union, enough to leave everything to keep the ideal that their great grandfather''s had paid dearly for less than a 100 years before. Linda

<A HREF="http://www.jps.net/digger/history.htm">Click here: history</A> interesting reading.....excerpt from "Prelude to Progress: The History of Mason County, Illinois, 1818-1968". Have fun, Karen Foster Montgomery

I just got in on the tail-end of the discussion on the civil war ages etc. Would this film located in the state archives list ALL men in IL. For instance. If my ancestor born 1816, a husband & father at the time (1862), living in IL be on this military census? I understand it is by towns, so if one doesn't know the place he lived, one would have to search page by page. How many rolls of microfilm are there for this 1862 IL military census? Thanks. Geraldine in MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" > The North had a much larger pool of men to draw from. There was really no > need for 15, 16, 17 year olds to serve. Some may have lied about their age > and enlisted of course. In Illinois [and, as it was required by the War > Department, I assume all other northern states] they took a military census > in 1862 to determine who was available to serve. Those records still exist > and may be used for genealogy research. They are on microfilm at the state > archives. I don't know how they took it because the resulting report lists > the men in alphabetical order by community [often communities that no longer > exist]. It lists name, age, nativity, occupation, remarks. > > Dorothy Falk told me about this valuable resource last winter.

The North had a much larger pool of men to draw from. There was really no need for 15, 16, 17 year olds to serve. Some may have lied about their age and enlisted of course. In Illinois [and, as it was required by the War Department, I assume all other northern states] they took a military census in 1862 to determine who was available to serve. Those records still exist and may be used for genealogy research. They are on microfilm at the state archives. I don't know how they took it because the resulting report lists the men in alphabetical order by community [often communities that no longer exist]. It lists name, age, nativity, occupation, remarks. Dorothy Falk told me about this valuable resource last winter. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/01

I found this on another list. Check your ancestors and see if you think it is true. In checking my ancestors it is not true. Is it is true or not true for your ancestors? From: http://www.genealogybulletin.com/archives/HTML/etc70.html According to a tidbit from genealogical society bulletins, 78 percent of the Union Army in the Civil War was comprised of lads 15 to 18 years old. Data gleaned from government records reveals figures that may surprise you. Here are the statistics from the total enlistment of Northern soldiers during the Civil War: Age Number of Personnel 10 ............ 25 11 ............ 34 12 ............225 13 ............380 14 ...........1602 15 ........104,987 (3.5%) 16 ........231,051 (8.0%) 17 ........884,981 (28.0%) 18 ......1,158,434 (38.5%) 19-22 .....617,511 (20.5%) 22-44 ......52,696 45+ .....Not given Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Central Illinois Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb

Not true in my husband's family either. They fell in the 22-44 age bracket which is more what I would expect. Dottie

I am forwarding this from another list: ************** From: "Peg Paterchak" <rv64@lor.net> Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:27 PM Hi Listers: Today while in a local shop, I found a wonderful picture that I couldn't resist purchasing. The gentle sweet-looking lady in this "cardboard" photo OBVIOUSLY meant for someone in her family to have this photo. It is inscribed as follows: F. A. Deiffenbacher Havana, Mason Co., Illinois __________________________ My maiden name was Frances A. Parmalee Old Home was in Lockport, Niagara Co. NY. (or maybe NJ) May 1st 1910 75 years old Born Nov. 22, 1834 If anyone knows this family or descendants and would like to have this wonderfully information photo, please contact me at rv64@lor.net and I will glad send it to you..............Peggy

So am I. Sara Dorothy Nanninga Sewell wrote: > > Yes. Please tell us her story. I'm curious too. > > Dottie > > ==== ILMASON Mailing List ==== > Visit Mason County, ILGenWeb: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmason/

Yes. Please tell us her story. I'm curious too. Dottie

Well, now you really have me interested who got the picutre. Steve Holland

Thanks so all who helped me find a "proper" home for the photo of the F. A. Diffenbacher......She deserved a better home than resting in a dusty basket in a second hand store. Especially when she had gone to such effort by writing most the detailed information on the photo. She was practically begging someone to find her. Thanks again to all, Peggy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ade Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Yg.2ADI/137 Message Board Post: I have a picture taken in the early 1900's, of William Ade, Charles 'Charlie' Ade, Lobe Ade, Jacob Ade , Carrie P. and my Great Great Grandparents (whose names I do not know).Other members of my family are Anna Ade,Leroy Ade,Raymond Ade,Viola Ade. I know the middle names of the men usually were Gottlieb or Fredrick. I can only place William and need help with any information on Charles, Lobe, Jacob and Carrie. Please email me at BreaAde@aol.com

Boy , Peg you are really a sweetie . Steve Holland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KIEF, LOHMANN, LANNERT Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yg.2ADI/136 Message Board Post: Does anyone have access to Hancock Cemetary just south of Havana? I am looking for relatives of mine that were buried south of Havana sometime between 1852-1860. Their names are Rudolph and Anna Catherine Kief and their daughter Magdelena "Lena" Kief. I was told that Hancock Cemetary was rather old with graves back as far as 1854. I have checked into the city Cemetary in Havana and they are not there. Can anyone help? Tammy Russell

Havana Township Section 36 NW 1/4 was owned by a Marvin Strube in 1981. That is the most current plat book map I have. I have a cousin that lives in Mason Co. that probably has a more current plat book and will ask him to look and see who owns the land now. Joan Black Lund j-lund@uiuc.edu

>I don't find any Kief/Keef/Keif in the cemetery book that I have. There >is an old cemetery south of Havana called Hancock Cemetery that has old >dates in it. My ancestor died 1854 and we found her stone there a few >years ago - it had not been recorded. I live to far away to try and check >for you. Maybe someone that lives in the area can. It is on a hill above >the Illinois River and across from the Power plant. I only get over that >way every couple of years or so. > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:13:42 EDT >From: Histree60@aol.com >To: ILMASON-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <e0.19501da3.28b2c976@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [ILMASON] Cemetary lookups >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >My relatives are supposed to be buried somewhere in Mason County. In fact, >it was reported that they were buried outside of Havana. Can someone kindly >do a lookup of Mason County cemetaries and see if there is a Rudolph and >Catherine Kief buried there sometime between 1852-1860? THANKS!! > >Tammy Russell Joan Black Lund j-lund@uiuc.edu

Hi Listers: Today while in a local shop, I found a wonderful picture that I couldn't resist purchasing. The gentle sweet-looking lady in this "cardboard" photo OBVIOUSLY meant for someone in her family to have this photo. It is inscribed as follows: F. A. Deiffenbacher Havana, Mason Co., Illinois __________________________ My maiden name was Frances A. Parmalee Old Home was in Lockport, Niagara Co. NY. May 1st 1910 75 years old Born Nov. 22, 1834 If anyone knows this family or descendants and would like to have this wonderfully information photo, please contact me at rv64@lor.net and I will glad send it to you..............Peggy

My relatives are supposed to be buried somewhere in Mason County. In fact, it was reported that they were buried outside of Havana. Can someone kindly do a lookup of Mason County cemetaries and see if there is a Rudolph and Catherine Kief buried there sometime between 1852-1860? THANKS!! Tammy Russell

My relatives are in the Mowder Cemetery, near Easton I think, it is on privately owned land, and if it weren't for other descendants, it would be totally over run with brush and poison ivy. I am grateful that they have been able to go in and occasionally clear it away. I wonder how many other cemeteries are in the back of some farmers cornfield and forgotten. The relatives I have buried there are Waterworths. Betty in Nebraska