Hi, That is my person. I should search the Allsup List archives. Thanks, Diane Payne In a message dated 08/19/2003 9:11:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ray@ussonet.net writes: << From: ray@ussonet.net (ray) Reply-to: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com To: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com Diane I know this is not the answer to your question but it might be a clue. A tree that I got from the Alsup list shows her as Effie J. Alsup. >>