Diane I know this is not the answer to your question but it might be a clue. A tree that I got from the Alsup list shows her as Effie J. Alsup. This list does not give dob or dod just the years. J. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.509 / Virus Database: 306 - Release Date: 8/12/03