Nancy I went to Salem today and all they have aat the county Clerks office is the register where they applied and all it gives is who married them. I am going to go to Springfield to get some documents for myself and will see if they have them there. Also do you already have their birth and death certificates. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > Cathy, > I checked my book 2 (Kinmundy, Meachum, Alma & Omega Cemeteries. There is a > Thomas C., but no M.L. Don't think it is the right one--b. 8 Dec 1861 d. 18 > April 1899 Evergreen Cemetery in Kinmundy. > Nancy in Dallas > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Whitney" <catherine.whitney@verizon.net> > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > Hi to all you wonderful people that offer to do look ups. I have a "very > big > > brick wall" and I would be so very appreciative if someone could help. > > My great grandmother Mary Lourene LANDRUM b.1832 in TN moved to Fayette > > County and later to Marion Co. along with her parents. (possibly Mary and > > John?) Mary Lourene married Thomas C. WILLIAMS in 1850 and after he died > she > > married David HANNA in 1877 in Marion County. I have never been able to > find > > any trace of any LANDRUMs in Marion County. Are there any in the > cemeteries? > > Thank you so much for any help...I've been on this search for 10 years. > > Very Sincerely, > > Cathy Whitney > > in Fountain Valley, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > > > > Dot > > > I too have cemetery books 2 & 3 and would be happy to add my name to > your > > to > > > do look ups but have no idea how to get to the site to add myself. If > you > > > would loke help please tell me how to get there LOL. I also live in > > Marion > > > County and have walked and recorded most of the cemeteries there andI am > > in > > > the process of getting them off the recorder and onto paper then Ican do > > > research from them also > > > Sandy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "gengar" <gengar@centurytel.net> > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:22 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > > > > > > > I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be of > > > help. > > > > > > > > The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published four > > > > cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each > book > > is > > > > $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is > > probably > > > > over 500 pages. > > > > > > > > Each book includes a few townships. > > > > > > > > Book # 1 > > > > Patoka > > > > Foster > > > > Carrigan > > > > Tonti > > > > > > > > Book # 2 > > > > Alma > > > > Kinmundy > > > > Meacham > > > > Omega > > > > Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. > > > > > > > > Book # 3 > > > > Haines > > > > Iuka > > > > Romaine > > > > Stevenson > > > > This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. > > > > > > > > Book # 4 > > > > Odin > > > > Raccoon > > > > Sandoval > > > > EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery > > > > > > > > That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia > > > > unpublished. > > > > > > > > I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, type > > the > > > > data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books > printed. > > > The > > > > index of each book has a full name index----every person, alphabetical > > > > order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many > > > members > > > > of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few > > people > > > > who do a lot. > > > > > > > > I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to > help > > > > people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But > when > > > > someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at > least > > > in > > > > Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests > are > > > > made for specific people. That way more people can be helped without > > > > spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only a > > few > > > > that they really know anything about at all. > > > > > > > > Thanks for letting me have my say. > > > > > > > > Dot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

Hi Sandy, Thanks for checking. No I do not have birth certificates for either. C.C.'s office sent me a copy of a one line register that listed DOB, Parent's name and country of orgin. Would love to find actual certificates. Also, while you are in Springfield could you see if they have ANYTHING on great grandfather John Michael Brenner or his dad, George L. I know they came from Bavaria, probably late 1850's or early 1860's. First record of land purchase I found was by George in 1867 in Kinmundy. So far the earliest census they were on was there in 1870. Both died in 1895. I am having a terrible time trying to find out exactly when they emigrated, "their boat", where they landed, and naturalization records. Since JM was only 24 in 1870, I think he might have automatically become a citizen if George applied. I recently found a George L with correct widow's name in the Civil War Pension Records (Union). Am going to write off for copies and see if it's him. He might have joined Union Army when he arrived and he & family would have automatically have become immediate citizens. He was born in 1820, so would have been only 41 when war began. Can you see what kind of guidance/help they can give on checking out naturalization? 1870 census says George was a US citizen. Thanks again, and I'll gladly reimburse you for any expense. Have you ever done any research for your family on Dolores Mobley's website? www.ford-mobley.com. She has roots in Marion Co. and her website has a wealth of genealogy information in that area. Check out her "gleanings" from the old newspapers, they are wonderful and I found a number of "snippets" of info of a number of my family members. You can search "gleanings" by name. She's put a huge amount of time and effort into it. All our Marion Co. fellow researchers should check it out. Hope everyone will see this. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > Nancy > I went to Salem today and all they have aat the county Clerks office is the > register where they applied and all it gives is who married them. I am > going to go to Springfield to get some documents for myself and will see if > they have them there. Also do you already have their birth and death > certificates. > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > Cathy, > > I checked my book 2 (Kinmundy, Meachum, Alma & Omega Cemeteries. There is > a > > Thomas C., but no M.L. Don't think it is the right one--b. 8 Dec 1861 d. > 18 > > April 1899 Evergreen Cemetery in Kinmundy. > > Nancy in Dallas > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cathy Whitney" <catherine.whitney@verizon.net> > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > > > > Hi to all you wonderful people that offer to do look ups. I have a "very > > big > > > brick wall" and I would be so very appreciative if someone could help. > > > My great grandmother Mary Lourene LANDRUM b.1832 in TN moved to Fayette > > > County and later to Marion Co. along with her parents. (possibly Mary > and > > > John?) Mary Lourene married Thomas C. WILLIAMS in 1850 and after he died > > she > > > married David HANNA in 1877 in Marion County. I have never been able to > > find > > > any trace of any LANDRUMs in Marion County. Are there any in the > > cemeteries? > > > Thank you so much for any help...I've been on this search for 10 years. > > > Very Sincerely, > > > Cathy Whitney > > > in Fountain Valley, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > > > > > > > Dot > > > > I too have cemetery books 2 & 3 and would be happy to add my name to > > your > > > to > > > > do look ups but have no idea how to get to the site to add myself. If > > you > > > > would loke help please tell me how to get there LOL. I also live in > > > Marion > > > > County and have walked and recorded most of the cemeteries there andI > am > > > in > > > > the process of getting them off the recorder and onto paper then Ican > do > > > > research from them also > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "gengar" <gengar@centurytel.net> > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:22 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be > of > > > > help. > > > > > > > > > > The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published > four > > > > > cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each > > book > > > is > > > > > $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is > > > probably > > > > > over 500 pages. > > > > > > > > > > Each book includes a few townships. > > > > > > > > > > Book # 1 > > > > > Patoka > > > > > Foster > > > > > Carrigan > > > > > Tonti > > > > > > > > > > Book # 2 > > > > > Alma > > > > > Kinmundy > > > > > Meacham > > > > > Omega > > > > > Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. > > > > > > > > > > Book # 3 > > > > > Haines > > > > > Iuka > > > > > Romaine > > > > > Stevenson > > > > > This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. > > > > > > > > > > Book # 4 > > > > > Odin > > > > > Raccoon > > > > > Sandoval > > > > > EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia > > > > > unpublished. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, > type > > > the > > > > > data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books > > printed. > > > > The > > > > > index of each book has a full name index----every person, > alphabetical > > > > > order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many > > > > members > > > > > of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few > > > people > > > > > who do a lot. > > > > > > > > > > I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to > > help > > > > > people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But > > when > > > > > someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at > > least > > > > in > > > > > Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests > > are > > > > > made for specific people. That way more people can be helped > without > > > > > spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only > a > > > few > > > > > that they really know anything about at all. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for letting me have my say. > > > > > > > > > > Dot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send > to > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > the > > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. 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