Marilyn If you are a member there should be a address in one of the books but if not I am going there tomorrow and will scan you a price list of all the stuff they have for sale and an address if you would like. I have one laying around here somewhere but heaven only knows where in this mess Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Hancock" <hancock@midwest.net> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > How do you go about buying one of the books. I would like book #4 but did > not find it listed as being for sale on the Marion County site. I am a > member of the Marion County Genaological & Historical Society but have never > seen anything about purchasing these books. > > Thank you! > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gengar" <gengar@centurytel.net> > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > > > > I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be of > help. > > > > The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published four > > cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each book is > > $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is probably > > over 500 pages. > > > > Each book includes a few townships. > > > > Book # 1 > > Patoka > > Foster > > Carrigan > > Tonti > > > > Book # 2 > > Alma > > Kinmundy > > Meacham > > Omega > > Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. > > > > Book # 3 > > Haines > > Iuka > > Romaine > > Stevenson > > This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. > > > > Book # 4 > > Odin > > Raccoon > > Sandoval > > EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery > > > > That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia > > unpublished. > > > > I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, type the > > data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books printed. > The > > index of each book has a full name index----every person, alphabetical > > order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many > members > > of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few people > > who do a lot. > > > > I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to help > > people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But when > > someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at least > in > > Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests are > > made for specific people. That way more people can be helped without > > spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only a few > > that they really know anything about at all. > > > > Thanks for letting me have my say. > > > > Dot > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

How do you go about buying one of the books. I would like book #4 but did not find it listed as being for sale on the Marion County site. I am a member of the Marion County Genaological & Historical Society but have never seen anything about purchasing these books. Thank you! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "gengar" <gengar@centurytel.net> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be of help. > > The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published four > cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each book is > $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is probably > over 500 pages. > > Each book includes a few townships. > > Book # 1 > Patoka > Foster > Carrigan > Tonti > > Book # 2 > Alma > Kinmundy > Meacham > Omega > Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. > > Book # 3 > Haines > Iuka > Romaine > Stevenson > This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. > > Book # 4 > Odin > Raccoon > Sandoval > EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery > > That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia > unpublished. > > I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, type the > data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books printed. The > index of each book has a full name index----every person, alphabetical > order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many members > of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few people > who do a lot. > > I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to help > people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But when > someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at least in > Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests are > made for specific people. That way more people can be helped without > spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only a few > that they really know anything about at all. > > Thanks for letting me have my say. > > Dot > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

Dave they weere in the middle of the cemetery by a ditch. If we would have had any idea where they belonged you can be sure that is where they would be now. We thought perhaps someone would claim them and they could be returned to the rightful owner and not destroyed because at 1st glance they looked like someone had just tossed garbage out. The way the wind was blowing that day and raining, they could have blown there with no trouble from anywhere in the cemetery. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thomson" <dave@volantis.org> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: RE: [ILMARION] can someone identify these > Hi Sandy, > > People sometimes leave letters or photos in zip lock bags at grave stones. > They are intended for the deceased. It would be a good idea to put them > back at the cemetery near the place you found them. > > I've seen this done at a few cemeteries. I think it's inspired by the movie > "Mermaid." > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sandy Bollhorst [mailto:sandy@usafast.us] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:18 AM > > To: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ILMARION] can someone identify these > > > > > > Last Thursday a cousin came from OK and we were walking Elder Cemetery. > > While walking it we came upon a zip lock bag containing 3 > > pictures. We don't > > have a clue who they are as there are no names writen on them. > > If anyone on > > here lost them out there please let me know and I will gladly > > return them to > > the owner. > > they are of a girl or young lady, a small toddler (boy abt. 1 (not good at > > guessing ages) and a Cubs ball player. If you know anyone missing these > > please contact me at > > sandy@usafast.us I would love to return them > > Sandy > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > > the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

Dot I too have cemetery books 2 & 3 and would be happy to add my name to your to do look ups but have no idea how to get to the site to add myself. If you would loke help please tell me how to get there LOL. I also live in Marion County and have walked and recorded most of the cemeteries there andI am in the process of getting them off the recorder and onto paper then Ican do research from them also Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "gengar" <gengar@centurytel.net> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Marion Co. Cemetery books > I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be of help. > > The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published four > cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each book is > $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is probably > over 500 pages. > > Each book includes a few townships. > > Book # 1 > Patoka > Foster > Carrigan > Tonti > > Book # 2 > Alma > Kinmundy > Meacham > Omega > Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. > > Book # 3 > Haines > Iuka > Romaine > Stevenson > This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. > > Book # 4 > Odin > Raccoon > Sandoval > EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery > > That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia > unpublished. > > I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, type the > data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books printed. The > index of each book has a full name index----every person, alphabetical > order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many members > of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few people > who do a lot. > > I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to help > people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But when > someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at least in > Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests are > made for specific people. That way more people can be helped without > spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only a few > that they really know anything about at all. > > Thanks for letting me have my say. > > Dot > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

nancy If I knew how to and where to postI sure would as I love doing look ups people in fact I spend more time on that than for myself and when I get flustered on mine I go look up something for someone else. If someone would tell me how to get to the place to sign up I would do it in a heartbeat Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > Sandy, > You aren't listed on the IL Roots Web page. Right now, Dot is the only > person listed to do Book 1 & 2 Marion County look-ups. Thought you might be > listed on some other site for Book 3. Have thought about ordering book 3 & > 4 (which I don't personally need) just to be able to offer lookups for folks > on that site. Wanted you to list me there just so there would be someone > else besides Dot Bellmer. I thought I had already done it, but guess I did > something wrong, because I'm still not there. Thanks again for your help > today, can't wait to hear from you. > Nancy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > Nancy > > I didn't know I was on Roots Web to do look ups or anywhere else for tht > > matter. I just do them sorta by word of mouth. You know I see someone > > looking for a certain name and I go search everything I have and send them > > that then someone sees it and asks for something and so forth and so on > > but I do belong to the IKK and we take a week to work on each person's > brick > > wall it has really helped me too. Right now with richard's eye surgury > and > > his triple bypass last Feb., I have nly been doing certain lookups for a > > week or so but will be in Salem anyway and there so it is no problem and > > hope I can help you get them > > Sandy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > The rootsweb site so poor Dot doesn't have to do all of Book Two. Are > you > > > listed there for Book 3 look-ups? I have thought about getting book 4, > > just > > > for lookup purposes for others, no personal need. > > > If you know of any other sites that you could add me to for the book 2 > > > lookups, just do it. Dot was how I found all my family in Kinmundy when > I > > > first started looking for them. Was such a glorious moment when I > opened > > > and read her email response to "Looking for great grandfather"! > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:10 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > Nancy > > > > I forgot to ask you which web site you wanted to be added to. let me > > know > > > > and I'll be glad to add you > > > > Sandy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:20 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > > I am a member of the society also and have Cemetery Book 2 > (Kinmundy, > > > > > Meachum, Alma & Omega and would be glad to do look-ups if you can > add > > me > > > > to > > > > > the web-site. My great grandparents, John Michael Brenner & Dora > > Wetter > > > > > Brenner were married in Salem by J.P. on Sept. 11, 1877. Marriage > was > > > > > recorded in ss#143, Volume OOD, Page 117, according to Illinois > > > Marriages > > > > > Records that I found on IL state web-site. Could you call the > County > > > > > Clerk's office and find out if they would have a certificate and/or > > the > > > > > application for marriage? I would be glad to send a check for > > whatever. > > > > I > > > > > have been unable to find anything that shows where in Bavaria he was > > > born. > > > > > He owned Brenner lumberyard in Kinmundy and a great deal of property > > > along > > > > > with my great, great grandfather, George L. Brenner. They settled > in > > > > > Kinmundy 1866-67, and Geo. died in mid 1895, followed by John > Michael > > > (age > > > > > 49) in Nov. 1895. Great grandma, Dora, grandpa John George, and > great > > > > aunt > > > > > Mae C. remained till 1912. Mae married Charles Fenster, son of > > Gottlieb > > > > > Fenster, one of the early settlers also. They were married in > Kinmundy > > > on > > > > > June 8, 1897 and was recorded in Book E, Page 56, Line 104, but when > I > > > was > > > > > up there last Oct., I asked for a copy of the marriage license, but > > they > > > > > couldn't find it. Did not know where it was recorded at the time, > > > though. > > > > > Think I could find out anything now? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Nancy Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:50 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belong to the society and am going there tomorrow is there > > something > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > look up for you > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: <Mbap1029@aol.com> > > > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:47 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of a book with the marion county historical > society, > > > but > > > > > have > > > > > > > not actually seen it and I dont belong to the society. There is > > no > > > > real > > > > > > office > > > > > > > located at the cemetrey to inquire either, which would truely be > > > > helpful > > > > > > to so > > > > > > > many. I live about a mile from the cemetery and have located a > > few > > > > > people > > > > > > > for them, but it's not easy as I estimate the cemetery covers > > > roughly > > > > 10 > > > > > > acres. > > > > > > > It is fairly well kept , mowed often by the city etc. The main > is > > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > no > > > > > > > real map of sections posted to help even if one finds this > > > information > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > book. I cannot make explicit promises except to say, if anyone > > too > > > > far > > > > > > away > > > > > > > to be able to visit the cemetery and they would like to post > > > specific > > > > > > names to > > > > > > > me, I will try as Im able to to look for them. Vut try and be as > > > > > specific > > > > > > as > > > > > > > possible as , I said earlier it is fairly large. I would be glad > > to > > > > help > > > > > > as I > > > > > > > can, If Im able to locate them I would be happy to take a > snapshot > > > for > > > > > > free for > > > > > > > you. I have had so much help in Kentucky with this type of > thing, > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > how > > > > > > > much it can mean to get the help. > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > Brenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, > > send > > > to > > > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages > in > > > the > > > > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, > send > > to > > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > > the > > > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send > to > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > the > > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. 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From an issue of "Footprints in Marion County" it looks like they still have books available, including cemetery book # 4. Write: Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society P. O. Box 342 Salem, IL, 62881 Cemetery books are $35, pluse $2.75 shipping. There is a Marion Co. IL Marriage book # 2, 1888-1931 for $40, plus $2.75 shipping. (Not sure there was ever a book # 1, as those dates are online.) Also Brink McDonough History Marion and Clinton Counties, (reprint has full name index). $45, plus $6 shipping. It is a hardcover, very large book. Dot

To volunteer to do lookups in resources that you have, contact the coordinator for the rootsweb site for Marion Co. IL----or whatever county you can volunteer for. Most of the county rootsweb sites work the same way. For Marion Co. Kim Phillips Randolph is the coordinator. You can click on her name on the opening page for the website. By doing so it brings up a pre-addressed email. There you write what resources you have in which you are willing to do lookups. I appreciate Sandy's offer for help very much. I may just use that help when it is busy, but it is really best to write to Kim Phillips Randolph so she can get your name and the name of your resource on the website as a volunteer. Dot

Prairie State Chapter Daughters of The American Revolution put the Flags on the graves in Elmwood Cemetery. Hillcrest Memorial Park Owners put the Flags on the graves there

I have the #3 cemetery book for Marion. co 1830 census+ other census all of Jefferson co books.except census........... if anyone needs lookups.Jan Staples

Dear Brenda, Thank you SO much!!! Yes, these are some of them and the Oxley's are ones I am looking for too. Let me check on the Warrens'. I appreciate your help SO much! Kathy Florida http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/ Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee, Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon -------Original Message------- From: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 16:09:45 To: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries Lookup I had a few minutes and ran out and found in Elmwood: ALICE HOLTON 1859-1934 WILLD. HOLTON 1858-1905 HARRIETT wife of GEORGE HOLTON died jan 11 1861 aged 22yrs 1 mo and 6 days The stone for WILLD. is printed exactly as shown. I took a couple of photos and will try and fill the roll up to develope within the week. Hope this helps. There were no other marked HOLTONS in the area, they are buried next to a WARREN FAMILY AND A OXLEY FAMILY. Sincerely, Brenda ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com .

I had a few minutes and ran out and found in Elmwood: ALICE HOLTON 1859-1934 WILLD. HOLTON 1858-1905 HARRIETT wife of GEORGE HOLTON died jan 11 1861 aged 22yrs 1 mo and 6 days The stone for WILLD. is printed exactly as shown. I took a couple of photos and will try and fill the roll up to develope within the week. Hope this helps. There were no other marked HOLTONS in the area, they are buried next to a WARREN FAMILY AND A OXLEY FAMILY. Sincerely, Brenda

This might be a helpful website for IL cemeteries. It is the Illinois State Genealogical Society website. Cemeteries are listed by county. NOT listings of surnames online, just the names, locations and status of cemeteries. You might at least find out if a particular cemetery is in the county and whether or not there is a reading of it. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsgs/ilcemeteries/ilcemetery.html Dot

Sandy, You aren't listed on the IL Roots Web page. Right now, Dot is the only person listed to do Book 1 & 2 Marion County look-ups. Thought you might be listed on some other site for Book 3. Have thought about ordering book 3 & 4 (which I don't personally need) just to be able to offer lookups for folks on that site. Wanted you to list me there just so there would be someone else besides Dot Bellmer. I thought I had already done it, but guess I did something wrong, because I'm still not there. Thanks again for your help today, can't wait to hear from you. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > Nancy > I didn't know I was on Roots Web to do look ups or anywhere else for tht > matter. I just do them sorta by word of mouth. You know I see someone > looking for a certain name and I go search everything I have and send them > that then someone sees it and asks for something and so forth and so on > but I do belong to the IKK and we take a week to work on each person's brick > wall it has really helped me too. Right now with richard's eye surgury and > his triple bypass last Feb., I have nly been doing certain lookups for a > week or so but will be in Salem anyway and there so it is no problem and > hope I can help you get them > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:43 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > The rootsweb site so poor Dot doesn't have to do all of Book Two. Are you > > listed there for Book 3 look-ups? I have thought about getting book 4, > just > > for lookup purposes for others, no personal need. > > If you know of any other sites that you could add me to for the book 2 > > lookups, just do it. Dot was how I found all my family in Kinmundy when I > > first started looking for them. Was such a glorious moment when I opened > > and read her email response to "Looking for great grandfather"! > > Nancy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > Nancy > > > I forgot to ask you which web site you wanted to be added to. let me > know > > > and I'll be glad to add you > > > Sandy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nancy Scott" <teddysrn@msn.com> > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > Sandy, > > > > I am a member of the society also and have Cemetery Book 2 (Kinmundy, > > > > Meachum, Alma & Omega and would be glad to do look-ups if you can add > me > > > to > > > > the web-site. My great grandparents, John Michael Brenner & Dora > Wetter > > > > Brenner were married in Salem by J.P. on Sept. 11, 1877. Marriage was > > > > recorded in ss#143, Volume OOD, Page 117, according to Illinois > > Marriages > > > > Records that I found on IL state web-site. Could you call the County > > > > Clerk's office and find out if they would have a certificate and/or > the > > > > application for marriage? I would be glad to send a check for > whatever. > > > I > > > > have been unable to find anything that shows where in Bavaria he was > > born. > > > > He owned Brenner lumberyard in Kinmundy and a great deal of property > > along > > > > with my great, great grandfather, George L. Brenner. They settled in > > > > Kinmundy 1866-67, and Geo. died in mid 1895, followed by John Michael > > (age > > > > 49) in Nov. 1895. Great grandma, Dora, grandpa John George, and great > > > aunt > > > > Mae C. remained till 1912. Mae married Charles Fenster, son of > Gottlieb > > > > Fenster, one of the early settlers also. They were married in Kinmundy > > on > > > > June 8, 1897 and was recorded in Book E, Page 56, Line 104, but when I > > was > > > > up there last Oct., I asked for a copy of the marriage license, but > they > > > > couldn't find it. Did not know where it was recorded at the time, > > though. > > > > Think I could find out anything now? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nancy Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sandy Bollhorst" <sandy@usafast.us> > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:50 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belong to the society and am going there tomorrow is there > something > > I > > > > can > > > > > look up for you > > > > > Sandy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <Mbap1029@aol.com> > > > > > To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:47 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Centralia Cemeteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard of a book with the marion county historical society, > > but > > > > have > > > > > > not actually seen it and I dont belong to the society. There is > no > > > real > > > > > office > > > > > > located at the cemetrey to inquire either, which would truely be > > > helpful > > > > > to so > > > > > > many. I live about a mile from the cemetery and have located a > few > > > > people > > > > > > for them, but it's not easy as I estimate the cemetery covers > > roughly > > > 10 > > > > > acres. > > > > > > It is fairly well kept , mowed often by the city etc. The main is > > > there > > > > is > > > > > no > > > > > > real map of sections posted to help even if one finds this > > information > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > book. I cannot make explicit promises except to say, if anyone > too > > > far > > > > > away > > > > > > to be able to visit the cemetery and they would like to post > > specific > > > > > names to > > > > > > me, I will try as Im able to to look for them. Vut try and be as > > > > specific > > > > > as > > > > > > possible as , I said earlier it is fairly large. I would be glad > to > > > help > > > > > as I > > > > > > can, If Im able to locate them I would be happy to take a snapshot > > for > > > > > free for > > > > > > you. I have had so much help in Kentucky with this type of thing, > I > > > > know > > > > > how > > > > > > much it can mean to get the help. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Brenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, > send > > to > > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > > the > > > > > digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > > > > > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send > to > > > > > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. 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Hi Sandy, People sometimes leave letters or photos in zip lock bags at grave stones. They are intended for the deceased. It would be a good idea to put them back at the cemetery near the place you found them. I've seen this done at a few cemeteries. I think it's inspired by the movie "Mermaid." Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Bollhorst [mailto:sandy@usafast.us] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:18 AM > To: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMARION] can someone identify these > > > Last Thursday a cousin came from OK and we were walking Elder Cemetery. > While walking it we came upon a zip lock bag containing 3 > pictures. We don't > have a clue who they are as there are no names writen on them. > If anyone on > here lost them out there please let me know and I will gladly > return them to > the owner. > they are of a girl or young lady, a small toddler (boy abt. 1 (not good at > guessing ages) and a Cubs ball player. If you know anyone missing these > please contact me at > sandy@usafast.us I would love to return them > Sandy > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in > the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com

I thought a few words about cemetery books for Marion Co. might be of help. The Marion County Genealogical & Historical Society has published four cemetery books. None of them include Centralia. The cost of each book is $35 plus shipping. Most of them are 300 pages or more and one is probably over 500 pages. Each book includes a few townships. Book # 1 Patoka Foster Carrigan Tonti Book # 2 Alma Kinmundy Meacham Omega Those two books above cover the upper half of Marion Co. Book # 3 Haines Iuka Romaine Stevenson This book covers the southeastern corner of Marion Co. Book # 4 Odin Raccoon Sandoval EXCLUDING Hillcrest Cemetery That leaves the two most populus townships-----Salem and Centralia unpublished. I understand that it takes a LOT of work to inventory cemeteries, type the data, cross reference for notes, proofread and then have books printed. The index of each book has a full name index----every person, alphabetical order, not just a surname. All of this is done by volunteers. Many members of the genealogical society, live out of state so that leaves a few people who do a lot. I can say that as a volunteer to do lookups, it very rewarding to help people find some long lost relative or conquer a "brick wall". But when someone asks for ALL of a surname, and it is a common surname---at least in Marion Co., it can be a bit overwhelming. It is helpful if requests are made for specific people. That way more people can be helped without spending hours for one lookup and maybe the names sent include only a few that they really know anything about at all. Thanks for letting me have my say. Dot

Last Thursday a cousin came from OK and we were walking Elder Cemetery. While walking it we came upon a zip lock bag containing 3 pictures. We don't have a clue who they are as there are no names writen on them. If anyone on here lost them out there please let me know and I will gladly return them to the owner. they are of a girl or young lady, a small toddler (boy abt. 1 (not good at guessing ages) and a Cubs ball player. If you know anyone missing these please contact me at sandy@usafast.us I would love to return them Sandy

There is an old GAR Chapel in Elmwood Cemetery. A few years back it was somewhat renovated, through the spearhead efforts of a lady named Ann Chappel in Centralia . I believe,that years ago, in the winter months when the ground was too frozen to dig burial plots, the chapel was used for a temporary resting place. Brenda

I really appreciate those of you who have the cemetery books and are willing to lookup the HOLTON family who are buried somewhere in Centralia. I have looked through all the on-line resources and they are not listed. I have listed that there should be at least Alice Holton and William M. Holton. I think there should be a family plot with more than these as the family lived there. Any HOLTON's would be appreciated. Thank you so much!!! Kathy Florida http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/ Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee, Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon

I am not aware as to who does the flags in the Centralia Cemetery, however, the American Legion does most of the cemeteries in the northern part of Marion County. meb

If you bring up GOOGLE and type GAR in its search block you will get all kinds of inof on the Grand Army of the Republic. meb