Would you have any info for George, Mable or Albert HOOTS?? Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Helen For what is worth with the luck that I am having this week. :( The only Thorp that I find in the 1850 Marion co census is Thorp, Amos 45 M farmer born NY Susanah 35 F born Ohio Isaac 15 b ohio Roxanna 12 b Ohio Abraham 10 b Ohio Jane 8 F b IL Susanah 6 F b IL and in the 1860 census Thorp , Susanna 51 f OH Rosanna 23 OH Araham 20 OH Ellen J 8 IL and Thorp, Charles 26 OH Mary J 22 F IL It seems to me many of the men died at a fairly young age those days. I hope this is of some help Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

-----Original Message----- From: Edward J. Wurtz [mailto:tribulis@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:40 AM To: ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: COURSON I have the following Courson in my database: Luke Courson married (1) Maude B. Hoots on December 29, 1898, in Marion County, IL, daughter of Frank Hoots and Clarinda Manahan. She was born Abt. 1882. He married (2) Sophia Feller on November 07, 1900, in Marion County, IL. Notes for Luke Courson: Gleanings from "The Kinmundy Express," Jan. 16, 1941 (http://www.ford-mobley.com/dafm/express/exp1941.htm): - Miletus: Luke COURSON and wife of Ivesdale, IL. were in this community last week having been called here by the death of his sister, Mrs. Wm. BUTTS. Marriage Notes for Luke Courson and Maude Hoots: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html): COURSON, LUKE HOOTS, MAUD B 12/29/1898 E /67 MARION Marriage Notes for Luke Courson and Sophia Feller: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html): COURSON, LUKE FELLER, SOPHA 11/07/1900 E /80 MARION Please contact me if you have any further information on this family. Maude was my grandfather's, Earl Harrison Manahan, first cousin. Edward J. Wurtz 4145 Agate Road Bellingham, WA 98226 My home page: http://www.geocities.com/antarcticus/ Researching the following surnames: WURTZ, MANAHAN, EMPFIELD, WESHINSKEY, HARTMANN, DUVALL, BASTON, HEAVER, WACK, MAYBAUM, SUGG, VESSELS, ALLEN, ROBB, BOWEN, ROBYN, SHUBERT, WARNER, NEWTON, FRITZ, JANSSEN, SOBLET, HART, SIMEON, WINTER.

I believe my Olive Thorp/Tharp also came to Marion and Fayette Co's from Licking Co. Ohio around 1850. Do you her in your database? Helen in Idaho

Steve Yes I found Elizabeth in both census. That is what I get for trying to answer mail late at night. In the printed verson of the census that I have at home her name is spelled Coarson and I looked right over it. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

I have the following Courson in my database: Luke Courson married (1) Maude B. Hoots on December 29, 1898, in Marion County, IL, daughter of Frank Hoots and Clarinda Manahan. She was born Abt. 1882. He married (2) Sophia Feller on November 07, 1900, in Marion County, IL. Notes for Luke Courson: Gleanings from "The Kinmundy Express," Jan. 16, 1941 (http://www.ford-mobley.com/dafm/express/exp1941.htm): - Miletus: Luke COURSON and wife of Ivesdale, IL. were in this community last week having been called here by the death of his sister, Mrs. Wm. BUTTS. Marriage Notes for Luke Courson and Maude Hoots: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html): COURSON, LUKE HOOTS, MAUD B 12/29/1898 E /67 MARION Marriage Notes for Luke Courson and Sophia Feller: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 (http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html): COURSON, LUKE FELLER, SOPHA 11/07/1900 E /80 MARION Please contact me if you have any further information on this family. Maude was my grandfather's, Earl Harrison Manahan, first cousin. Edward J. Wurtz 4145 Agate Road Bellingham, WA 98226 My home page: http://www.geocities.com/antarcticus/ Researching the following surnames: WURTZ, MANAHAN, EMPFIELD, WESHINSKEY, HARTMANN, DUVALL, BASTON, HEAVER, WACK, MAYBAUM, SUGG, VESSELS, ALLEN, ROBB, BOWEN, ROBYN, SHUBERT, WARNER, NEWTON, FRITZ, JANSSEN, SOBLET, HART, SIMEON, WINTER.

Steve I find this interesting since Elizabeth's mother was also widowed in Licking co Ohio and brought here family here to Marion co. The Coursons, Shanafelts, Johnsons and McClellands were all neighbors in Licking co and all moved here. I have several ancestors that made the move. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Thanks Steve I will forward the info to the local geneologists. There are several here in Marion co that will be glad to get it. I have my line in Famly tree maker and could print a gedcom of that info if you like. Where are you located ? I am in Marion co. I just got the post from Gwen and it looks like she might have something for us both. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Hi Ray, Elizabeth Courson, wife of Benjamin, was widowed somewhere around 1845 in Licking Co., Ohio and then moved to Illinois, where her last child David Courson was born. The 1850 Census for Marion Co., Dist. 11, pg. 133 (67) lists Elizabeth CORSON and her 6 children. The 1860 Census lists her on p. 82 $585 Kinmundy, then with 3 remaining children, Isaac, Sarah and David. Do you have a GEDCOM file available of your family history? Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray" <ray@ussonet.net> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] COURSON -BOSTON- SHANAFELT- SLAGLEY -ROTHROCK > Elizabeth is living with Catherine Merrit and her children > in the 1870 census of Marion co. > > It is very strange that I did not find any Coursons in the > index of the 1860 census. I will have to look at that one > again :-( > Ray > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03 > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

I have quite a lot of information on this line of Coursons. Benjamin and Elizaabeth were my 2 great grandparents. I would be happy to share. Gwen > Steve > It does not look like I am going to be of much help finding > what happened to your Benjamin Courson. Neither of my > good "sources" have a death date or burial place for him > or Elizabeth. > Her brother Samuel Shanafelt married Elizabeth Courson. > they are in East lawn cemetery in Salem. This is my line. > Her sister Susanna married George Courson he diedAug 11 > 1888 and is in Courson cemetery. > Elizabeth Courson is listed in the 1850 census but Benjamin > is not. > George and Susanna are the next entry in the 1850 census > so they must have lived nearby. > > Ray > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03 > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com >

Sorry about the crazy post I did to this list. My mouse went silly. mebrimberry

Elizabeth is living with Catherine Merrit and her children in the 1870 census of Marion co. It is very strange that I did not find any Coursons in the index of the 1860 census. I will have to look at that one again :-( Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Steve It does not look like I am going to be of much help finding what happened to your Benjamin Courson. Neither of my good "sources" have a death date or burial place for him or Elizabeth. Her brother Samuel Shanafelt married Elizabeth Courson. they are in East lawn cemetery in Salem. This is my line. Her sister Susanna married George Courson he diedAug 11 1888 and is in Courson cemetery. Elizabeth Courson is listed in the 1850 census but Benjamin is not. George and Susanna are the next entry in the 1850 census so they must have lived nearby. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Hi-- That was fast! I've been doing Courson research, off and on, since 1975. Are you related to one of these families? Maybe Shanafelt? I wonder if Laura's book is still available? I've got quite a bit of the immediate Shanafelt info from a variety of sources, but continue to try and add to the overall picture by getting information on the extended families of my direct ancestors. The big question of course, is what happened to Benjamin Courson, who was married to Elizabeth Shanafelt, both of whom lived in Marion Co. by the mid-1800's. I've never found a trace of Benjamin after they moved to Marion Co. But I'm interested in any information you might have, and especially on the Coursons. I'd be happy to exchange information. I've got about 3700 names in my Family Tree Maker, and several photos of the Coursons back to Noah Tilford. I'm not sure if we are suppose to post responses here so everyone can follow this thread. If not, someone can let me know. Many thanks. Steve Courson ----- Original Message ----- From: "ray" <ray@ussonet.net> To: <ILMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] COURSON -BOSTON- SHANAFELT- SLAGLEY -ROTHROCK > Hi Steve > Yes I have some info for your Coursons and Shanafelts and yes the > Marion co Historical society is still active. > Do you have any specific questions on these 2 lines. > I have a copy of a Shanafelt book by Laura shanafelt Powell > that takes that line back to about 1745 in Germany. > I will have to dig in the files to see what I actually have on > your Coursons. > > J. Ray Young > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03 > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > ILMARION-L-request@Rootsweb.com. If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to ILMARION-D-request@Rootsweb.com > >

Steve My grandmother was a Shanafelt and if you are either Shanafelt or Courson here in Marion co you are probably related to the rest of the others. Those 2 lines crossed many times. The Shanafelt book is out of print. We did have a few copies reprented a couple years ago. They were all sold before the order was sent. There might be one available from an individual. I will have to look for old Benjamin Courson the book does not say. It is OK to keep this going on the list but I would prefer to connect off list. My email is ray@ussonet.net. I will get back with more later either tonight or in the morning. ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Hello-- I've just joined this list and have a lot of family connections to the Marion Co. area. Many of my ancestors are buried in the Courson Cemetery in Meacham Twp. My direct line is: Benjamin Courson Sr. > Isaac Courson Sr.(m. Jane Orr) > Benjamin Courson (m. Elizabeth Shanafelt) > Andrew Jackson Courson (m. Elizabeth Rothrock/Roderick) > Noah Tilford Courson (m. Laura May Slagley > Andrew Wesley Courson (m. Grace Boston) > Melvin Ray Courson > Steve Courson If you have information, or connections to these lines, I would appreciate hearing from you. Is the Marion Co. Historical Society still active and producing their booklets? Thanks. Steve Courson

Hi Steve Yes I have some info for your Coursons and Shanafelts and yes the Marion co Historical society is still active. Do you have any specific questions on these 2 lines. I have a copy of a Shanafelt book by Laura shanafelt Powell that takes that line back to about 1745 in Germany. I will have to dig in the files to see what I actually have on your Coursons. J. Ray Young --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 7/18/03

Hi all, This is my first post on this list. I am looking for information (an obit or other verification) about the death of my g-g-aunt, Alice V. (Woods) Chambers. She was the wife of Al B Chambers. Family records have it that she died in Salem, Illinois on Jan 10, 1902 Any help would be appreciated about this family. Thanks, Debbie V.

Hi Listers, I am looking for information related to my Swan relatives in Centralia. G-G-Grandfather-C.A.Swan b. 1891 G-G-Grandmother-Mae Swan b. 1897(?) G-Grandmother-Lena Mae Swan b. 1916. If you see a connection, please let me know. Thanks, Patti

The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 2003 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Information about the newsletter is available at http://www.eogn.com. [new domain - go there to get your own FREE subscription] I am often asked about long-term storage of digital data. Many people are worried about the expected lifetime of CD-ROM disks and other storage media. Others like to point out that we may not have the required hardware to read such data, outside of a few systems housed in museums. I will suggest that the expected lifetimes of the storage media are unimportant. As the previous article about the Domesday Book shows, a little planning easily sidesteps these concerns. The original BBC Domesday project stored its output on storage media that is rare only seventeen years later. Yet the conversion to modern data storage technologies was accomplished with little fanfare. In almost all cases, storage of electronic data rarely needs to exceed twenty years. In fact, ten years is probably good enough for planning purposes; twenty years probably is an extreme case. One major advantage of electronic data is that it can be copied time and time again with absolutely no loss of quality from the original imprint. Unlike printed books and magazines, a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original documents still looks as good as the original. If the storage media change, who cares? I originally stored my genealogy data on 8-inch floppy disks that held about 90 kilobytes of data. Do you remember those? Very few home computer users have ever seen 8-inch floppies. My genealogy data at that time didn't fill a single 90 kilobyte disk. Five and a quarter inch floppies became the standard of choice about 1980. I copied my data to the new, smaller floppies that contained 360 kilobytes of data. By 1990 or so, the three and a half inch floppies became predominant. Each stored up to 1.4 megabytes of data. I copied my data to three and a half inch floppies. By late in the twentieth century, CD-ROM began to dominate, each able to store about 600 megabytes of data. Again, I copied my data to CD-ROM. A few months ago I purchased a DVD-ROM writer that stores up to 4.7 gigabytes of data on a single disk. I haven't copied my data over to DVD yet, but I now have the capability to move my data to this latest storage medium. Even after more than twenty years' of research, I can only fill a tiny fraction of the 4.7 gigabytes available on each DVD disk. As I stated earlier, the expected lifetimes of the storage media are unimportant. A little planning easily sidesteps those concerns. In my case and in the case of almost everyone I know, data gets copied from old storage media to new every few years. The important thing is the plan to keep copying data to new media every few years. Not only is the physical media important, but so is the electronic format. My data on the 8-inch floppies was stored in both ASCII text and in DB2 format, the predominant database standard of the time. Luckily, ASCII is still quite common; but when was the last time you saw a program that could read DB2 data? The same issue may hold true in future years. If you store your data today in the internal format of some genealogy program or as a GEDCOM file or as an Adobe Acrobat PDF file, will there be software available 50 or 100 years from now to read it? Probably not. Instead, each time you copy the data to new storage medium, you also need to make sure that you are converting it to current software standards. You need to be proactive. You need to make sure you copy your data and convert its format every few years. If you are an active genealogist with a computer available, this will be easy. However, you also need to plan for the same conversions after you lose interest or after your death. Make sure you give copies of your data to someone else who cares, preferably a family member with a similar interest to yours. You might also donate copies to a family society, to local genealogy societies, or to other organizations who will keep an eye on it for you. I do not know of any national or international society that collects such data with the intention of preserving it and converting the data to new formats every few years. Obviously, the LDS Church and a number of commercial companies would like you to donate your data to them so that they can add it to their databases and store it for many years. Doing so will preserve your data for generations. However, you probably want to also preserve data on a more local scale.