Who are your HART's? I am looking for HURT surname... > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:41:57 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Posting > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:42:11 -0700 > > I've got Joshua and Martha Thompson in my line. They came from NC and were > married in Marion County. > > Researching: Christie, Brown, Lawrence, Linton, Hart, Pribble, Records, > Smith, > Stewart, and Thompson in Marion County, IL. > > [email protected] > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest > mode, send to [email protected] >

Hi, Tammy, I have a Mary Ann Maroon that married my Fredrick Daniel Allsup about 1856. She apparently died about 1857, presumeably in childbirth or from it. Would you have her in your database? I'd like to learn a little bit about her, and who her parents/siblings were. According to my notes, she had a child, Mary J. Allsup in 1857. Jenny Rice >From: "*~Tammy~*" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILMARION] roll call >Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:31:46 -0500 > >I am looking for information on these names MAROON, JACKSON,BUSSE,TIMMONS > >thanks > > >==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to >[email protected] If you are receiving messages in the >digest mode, send to [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I'm doing this off the top of my head, so they come slowly! METCALF, EASLEY, LUTTRELL, VURSELL, WEEMS, PAYNE, WHAM, MONCRIEF, HENNE, HOLMES, DONOHO, KELL, HUFF, COAL Not all of these names are my direct line, but are names that married into my direct lines. Jenny Rice _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Sid, Happy to help with what I have. As I mentioned previously, there seems to be many discrepancies in the Silas Wright book. My information comes from bible pages which are in my possession. Rather than give this to you in tree form, I will type it the way it appears in the bible. My own notes or comments are within brackets. You will see that the 1850 census information appears to be much more accurate than the Wright book, and corroborates most of the info I have below. Births [side 1, column 1] Wm B. Jones born March 3d, 1820 [aka Willis Jones] Eliza A Chance born Feb 27, 1822 Thos J Boring born Oct 3d 18 <the following are the children of Willis Jones and Eliza Chance> First Child - Son - unnamed born Feb 27 1840. Henry B Jones born June 15, 1841. Elizabeth E Jones born Dec 18th, 1844. Erasmus J. Jones born June 18, 1847. Willis B Jones born Dec 28, 1849. Eliza Ann Jones born Jan 6th 1852. [side 1, column 2] <the following are the children of Thos J Boring and Eliza Chance Jones> Wm Boring born June 6th 1856. Thos H Boring born Sept 3d 1858. Marion W Boring born Nov 5th 1859 Sophie Boring born Nov 5th 186 [thought to be 1863] Births [side 2, column 1] <the following are the children of Thos J Boring and Margaret ? Irvin/Irwin> Joseph D Boring born July 31st 1843 James G Boring born Jan 31st 1844 [probably 1847] Rebecca A Boring born Oct 31st 1848. Marriages [side 1, column 1] Willis B Jones and Eliza Ann Chance were married Feb 19th, 1839. Charles M Smith and Eliza Ann [Chance Jones] Boring were married Sept 24th AD 1870 [side 1, column 2] Thos J. Boring and E. A. [Chance] Jones were married June 10th 1855 Marriages [side 2, column 1] Henry B Jones and Sarah Ballance were Married Dec 6th 1859. [side 2, column 2] <these two were step brother/sister, Eli was son of Thos J Boring and Elizabeth Pursley. Ellen Jones was dau of Willis Jones and Eliza Chance><other sources indicate a marriage date of July 28 1861> Eli Boring and Ellen Jones were Married July , 1859 There are other births and marriages listed, but the ones I have listed here pertain to the Jones' and Eliza Chance. I hope this is of some help to you. Best Regards, Cheryle Boring In a message dated 5/25/01 1:37:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi Cheryle, > > Help me out. The Jones data I have from the 1850 Federal Census of Marion > County, lists Henry as Willis head of household and provides estimated birth > years for the children of Henry (or Willis) and Eliza Chance (my 1C4R) as > abt 1841 for Henry, abt 1845 for Eliza, abt 1847 for Rasmus, and abt 1850 > for Willis. These dates, of course, do not agree with the dates in Silas > Brown Wright's book. > > Do I have the wrong Jones family located in the 1850 Federal Census? > > Sid > > Researching FISHER, SHINN, COLE, NICHOLS, POWELL, GRAY, WRIGHT, CHANCE, > BLAIR, HORD, GERKING in Southern Illinois. >

Anyone interested in a typed copy of the Big Pigeon Church in Cocke Co., TN?

I am searching for information about the family and siblings of William Gardner and Bertha Vallow Gardner. His brother Lester also was in Marion County in 1900. Any help is appreciated. Mary Gardner

Sorry I got in late on the roll call; just read the message. Some of the names I'm researching in Marion County are HOWELL, SNOW, PORTER, ALLSUP, GOOSTREE, GASTON, CRIPPS, MCDANIELD, HEFLIN. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILMARION] postings and roll call >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:39:01 -0500 > >I hope these postings I've been doing of old Centralia Sentinel records are >of some use to those of you on the board here. >It might be a good time for a roll call of the surnames we are researching >from this county. I am searching for RANKIN, GRIER/GREER, ERICKSON, >PETERSON... to name just a few for now. > > >==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to >[email protected] If you are receiving messages in the >digest mode, send to [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Cheryle, Help me out. The Jones data I have from the 1850 Federal Census of Marion County, lists Henry as Willis head of household and provides estimated birth years for the children of Henry (or Willis) and Eliza Chance (my 1C4R) as abt 1841 for Henry, abt 1845 for Eliza, abt 1847 for Rasmus, and abt 1850 for Willis. These dates, of course, do not agree with the dates in Silas Brown Wright's book. Do I have the wrong Jones family located in the 1850 Federal Census? Sid Researching FISHER, SHINN, COLE, NICHOLS, POWELL, GRAY, WRIGHT, CHANCE, BLAIR, HORD, GERKING in Southern Illinois. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] PART II: THE LINE OF JAMES WILEY CHANCE . According to the information I have, there > are also errors in the Jones > names, dates and number of children. If anyone is interested, please post > and I will provide the info I have. > Best Regards, > Cheryle Boring > > > > > PART TWO > > > > > > > > > > > > SOURCE: Footprints of Marion County, Fall 1987 (out of print) > > > edition; > > > > > > Vol. 12, No. 2 from the book "Our Family Record," compiled by Silas > > > Brown > > > > > > WRIGHT. > > > > > > > > > > > > THE LINE OF JAMES WILEY CHANCE > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > I. Eliza A. CHANCE, born 27 Feb 1822 in Wilson Co., TN, died in > > > Marion > > > > > > Co., IL; married/1 - Henry JONES, born 12 Mar 1820, > > > died ???. Issue: > > > > > > 1. > > > Willis JONES, born 28 Feb 1839 > > > > > > 2. > > > Henry JONES, born 16 Apr 1840 > > > > > > 3. > > > Rasmus JONES, born 20 May 1841 > > > > > > 4. > > > Eliza JONES, born 18 Apr 1842 > > >

Just wanted to thanks everyone that has emailed me off-list with information about the Courthouse, and genealogy society. Sure appreciate it a lot! I have the information I needed now with good directions, so I'm sure we'll find both! Jenny Rice _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Please change my email address to: [email protected] --- June Woods --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I received the following email query: ...a form letter from Marion County Clerk and Recorder, Cliff Neudecker. The first line of that form states: "According to Illinois law, our birth, death and marriage records are closed to the public, however, member of any Illinois Genealogical Society may check indexes only to 1916." The lady wants a marriage record from 1907 or 1908. I really don't believe she has a firm date. However, I do not understand why she would not be allowed a copy should she know the date. Is she misunderstanding something or has Illinois law changed that much since I moved out of state? Cheryl Rothwell [email protected]

I am in the finishing stages of a Master's thesis on the economic and social history of Centralia from 1938-1978 and am curious if by any chance the genealogical work done by any individuals in Marion County has a more generally historical slant to it - any sort of public records or newspaper clippings about the town. Because of the nature of things I'm writing about (deindustrialization in large part) what might be especially useful are clippings or sources having to do with large employers or labor unions in Centralia during this period. If there happens to be any African-Americans with ties to Centralia during this period on the list, anything you have might be especially useful, because there's really a dearth of typical sources and I have had a great deal of difficulty learning/writing anything about racial interactions in the area. Additionally, if anybody on the list could get me in touch with Harriet Kinsey, it would be most appreciated. I believe she was (maybe still is?) an officer of the Marion County Genealogical Society and she also happens to be a distant relative of mine (my paternal grandfather's second cousin!) and I have not been able to find her email address or phone number at all. I would just request that any help anyone can provide me in getting in touch with her be directed to me off-list. Thank you very much, Phil Huckelberry Graduate Teaching Assistant The Ohio State University

In a message dated 5/22/01 9:02:46 PM, [email protected] writes: << Is there a resource for local genealogists or budding ones to hire to research a problem I'm having finding someone?>> I recommend Betty Beeson of rural Geff. She is very reasonable and did some great work for me. Her phone number is 618-897-2627. Carolyn Remember, you have a friend in Oklahoma!

My husband's family are the Davis line and they came from Tishmongo Co., MS and neighboring counties in AL, where most of them still live. My husband's grandfather came to IL in the late 1930's to look for work and ended up in Chicago, and later moved to Kenosha, WI. He moved back to MS about 58 yrs. ago and passed away about ten years ago. My father in law moved to PAwnee, IL and later to Cordova, IL because of his work with Commonwealth Edison. He now lives in FL as do my husband's sisters. He is descended form a Bean (Rhoda) and lived down the street from a Chesser. I have several sites that describe his family line which was centered in the 1700's in Rowan Co., NC for the most part. There's a Proctor / Davis elated to my side of the family. I don't have all of my DAvis information at my fingertips at the moment, my husband must have borrowed his book again, but I will look to see if we have a William Buchannan. I know that we have a Thomas Clinton Davis, a Benjamin Farnklin DAvis, Wheeler, Walter RAy, Noel Curtis, and a few others come to mind that are totally common, but without the book, I'm not much good. I'll get back to you on that soon. Thanks for asking, it would be great if we could help each ohter out. Donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMARION] Need Some Information Donna, Which davis are you connected to in illinois. Mine is William Buchanan Davis, daughter nancy jane davis May your day be filled with blessings from above. Researching: Alphin, Ball, Bass, Bean, Brannum, (Busemi, Buschier), Chesser, Cook, Clerke, Crews, Davis, Flagg, Forture, Hardin, Harris, Henry, Jamison, Jordan, Kerr, Kinnison, Marr, McDonald, Miller, Myers, Nichols, Gunthrie, Price, Proctor, Reeves, Reno, Richardson, Rock, Russell, Smith, Teel, Thomas, Tucker, Walker, Ware, Winborn ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected]

Hello Listers, especially cousins Resa and Diane, How nice to find both of you! Thank you, Resa, for the personal email address; I would love to trade info with you. Thank you, Diane, for the Sumner Co. TN email address. It was so nice seeing the photos and additional info. Children of John Wesley Blackburn, Jr., and Lulu Sumner Payne are: 1. Maud Blackburn, b 27 July 1889 in Salem, IL 2. Myrtle Blackburn b 31 January 1895 in Peoria, IL 3. Joe A. Blackburn b. Maud (my grandmother) married Clement Claude Piguet (french descent) 7 August 1907 at Catoosa, Rogers Co. OK, d. 6 November 1962, buried at Timber Ridge Cemetery. Clement Claude was b. 17 January 1884 at Portsmouth, Scioto Co. Ohio, d. 28 September 1916 and is buried in Dick Duck Cemetery, Catoosa, Rogers Co. OK. They had 4 children. a. Frank Clem Piguet b. 25 June 1908, Catoosa, Rogers Co., OK b. George Allan Piguet b. 2 December 1909 at Timber Ridge area, Catoosa, Rogers Co., OK c. Claude Wesley 'Alex' Piguet b. 31 July 1911 at Catoosa, Rogers Co., OK 6 Feb 1970, buried at Timber Ridge Cemetery. d. Susie Juanita Lorene Piguet (my mother) All have died (with the exception of Susie) and are buried locally. I will send more info personally. Regards to all, June ----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected] Sent: 5/13/01 3:54:59 PM Subject: [ILMARION] BLACKBURN Family picture online Hi Blackburn researchers, Resa and I are cousins. I am so excited to meet another cousin too. Hi June! I would also love to share anything and everything on the Blackburn/Payne family. You can view a picture of Lulu Sumner Payne who married John W. Blackburn at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner/phjapayn.htm Lulu (Payne) Blackburn's sister Margaret Ida "Lady" Payne is my great-grandmother. Lulu and Margaret's parents were born in Sumner Co. TN. They migrated to Marion Co. IL about 1858. Would love to share information. Diane Payne in Seattle, WA Sumner Co. TNGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner/index.html ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --- June Woods --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I live in Calif, so getting to Marion Cty is a little difficult on a regular basis <g>. Is there a resource for local genealogists or budding ones to hire to research a problem I'm having finding someone? I found a wonderful high school student in Kentucky who wants to learn genealogy and basic research. It's so nice to not only get inexpensive research time, but also give great experience to a young one! She is planning to study library science. Cool, huh? Anyway, I look forward to receiving recommendations. Peg

Donna, Which davis are you connected to in illinois. Mine is William Buchanan Davis, daughter nancy jane davis May your day be filled with blessings from above. Researching: Alphin, Ball, Bass, Bean, Brannum, (Busemi, Buschier), Chesser, Cook, Clerke, Crews, Davis, Flagg, Forture, Hardin, Harris, Henry, Jamison, Jordan, Kerr, Kinnison, Marr, McDonald, Miller, Myers, Nichols, Gunthrie, Price, Proctor, Reeves, Reno, Richardson, Rock, Russell, Smith, Teel, Thomas, Tucker, Walker, Ware, Winborn

Jenny-- Well I don't believe it--this is something about your connection to James Albert PAYNE. And, yes, Diane Payne and I have known each other for some time. She and my mother researched together several years ago at the court house in Salem, but I've only "met" her on-line. Here's what I have on your people (not a lot)... Effie J. ALSUP d/o Daniel ALSUP and Martha LUTTRELL b c1871 ?Haines Twp? Marion Co, IL m 30 Aug 1889 Marion Co, IL James Albert PAYNE dau Bessie b 1891 (?she m Simon ALBERT?) d ?when? in childbirth with #2 child, a son, who also died; they are both buried at Bell Cemetery, Marion Co, IL I'd love to have more info on your ALLSUPs as well as corrections on the above. Please fill me in! I'd be glad to share any of my material... is there anything you'd like to have? Resa Nichols Hennings >Hi, Resa, > >You and I corresponded a LONG time ago about Howells. I'm pretty sure I >have the right person. <g> As I recall, we could not make a connection >with them. I just noticed that you are related to the Payne's and Harpers. >Guess what? James C. Payne and Mary A.E. Harper's son, James Albert, >married my great aunt, Effie J. Allsup! She is the sister of my great >grandmother, Lucy Ann Allsup who married Jesse J. Howell. Still don't >think that is your Howell line, but, I might be wrong! haha..... > >Well, just thought I'd get in touch. I don't know if all this makes us >related in any way or not <g> except maybe indirectly! But, I've got lots >of info on Effie's side of the family if you're interested, and I also >have info on the Harpers and the Paynes. > >By the way. Have you corresponded with Diane Payne? You're definitely >related to her!! The only email address I have for her is [email protected] >I emailed her there months ago and it did not come back but she's never >answered my email, either. So, I don't know if she uses that email much >if it's still valid. Last I knew, she and another lady were in charge of >Sumner County, TN genweb page. IF you've never contacted her, you can try >the address I gave you or do what *I'M* going to do and check that website >for a NEW email address! haha..... > >Well, Resa, hope you didn't mind my email, and maybe you remember me by >now. '+) If you'd like to trade any info, let me know! > >Jenny Rice >[email protected] (If you don't mind, please email me here. I'm >having trouble with my Hotmail account.) > > >>From: Resa Hennings <[email protected]> >>Subject: [ILMARION] BLACKBURN Family >> >>Hi all-- >>I have a dab of BLACKBURNs in my database-- >> >>John Wesley BLACKBURN, Sr >>m Sarah MILLER >> a son of theirs, >> John Wesley BLACKBURN, Jr >> b 1862 IL >> m 29 Apr 1888 LuLu Sumner PAYNE >> b 22 Feb 1871 Marion Co, IL >> d 1927 IN >> >>LuLu was a dau/o James C. PAYNE and Mary A. E. HARPER (they are my >>2g grandparents). James was b 18 Aug 1831 Sumner Co, TN and m >>Mary 18 Sep 1854 Sumner Co, TN. She was b 17 Sep 1835 Sumner Co, >>TN and d 2 Sep 1896 Marion Co, IL. James also d Marion Co, IL, but >>I don't know the date. >> >>James' parents were Robert PAYNE (b 11 May 1783 Greene Co, TN, >>will probated Mar 1857 Sumner Co, TN) and Sarah C. BEARD, d/o >>Capt. David BEARD (b 1745 VA d 11 Jan 1815 Sumner Co, TN) and >>Isabella CARSON (b 16 Jan 1745 Bedford Co, VA d 13 Nov 1812 >>Sumner Co, TN). Mary A.E.'s parents were Stephen HARPER (b 1809 >>TN? NC?) and Mary Catherine "Nancy" WHITE (b 1813 NC). Mary >>Catherine's parents were William WHITE and Sarah TYLER. >> >>June Woods...this makes us cousins of some sort by marriage! >> >> >>June Woods wrote: >>>John Wesley Blackburn b. 20 Nov. 1834, was my g-g-grandfather. He would >>>have been 48 years old in 1882 as stated in your info. I had been told >>>he was a physician, and this seems to be the case. It is wonderful to >>>learn additional facts about our ancestors. I did not know he was born >>>in Tenn. George Washington Blackburn who was divorced from Avis O. Webb >>>Blackburn was John Wesley's son and, also, brother to my g-grandfather, >>>John Wesley Blackburn, Jr. As for Norman Blackburn, I will have to do >>>more research to learn who he was and where he fits in.

I was there in October at the courthouse and found that hte people at the vaults were very quick to help. The people at the county clerks office were not bad, but also not forthcoming with any help either. I think that thosse who try to correspnd via the US Mail get the most resistance from them. Good Luck and have a safe trip. Donna FUlton Davis -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Rice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILMARION] Need Some Information Hi, all..... In July I am planning a visit up to Marion County (I am in Florida)...specifically Salem and Iuka. I would like to go to the Courthouse in Salem and see if I can find some things. Can someone give me some information on it's physical address, and the hours it is open? I would sure be greatful. Also, I'm curious....are the people in the Courthouse friendly and willing to help? I THINK I remember reading once that someone did not think so. Also, can someone give me the address/phone # and times of operation for the Marion County Genealogical Society? What do they have there and are you allowed to look around, and search for things? I appreciate any information you might want to offer. I would appreciate it if you could email me at my main email address, tho: [email protected] I am having a LOT of trouble with Hotmail, and I never know if I'm going to get in to check my mail or not....Appreciate the help!! Jenny Rice _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected]

Hi, all..... In July I am planning a visit up to Marion County (I am in Florida)...specifically Salem and Iuka. I would like to go to the Courthouse in Salem and see if I can find some things. Can someone give me some information on it's physical address, and the hours it is open? I would sure be greatful. Also, I'm curious....are the people in the Courthouse friendly and willing to help? I THINK I remember reading once that someone did not think so. Also, can someone give me the address/phone # and times of operation for the Marion County Genealogical Society? What do they have there and are you allowed to look around, and search for things? I appreciate any information you might want to offer. I would appreciate it if you could email me at my main email address, tho: [email protected] I am having a LOT of trouble with Hotmail, and I never know if I'm going to get in to check my mail or not....Appreciate the help!! Jenny Rice _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com