Hi Nancy, Thanks for the date for Eli/Ellen Boring. See my previous message for info regarding the marriage of Thomas/Margaret Boring. Regarding Sophie Boring, the copy of her tombstone transcription that I have says Smith, Sophia (w/o T.M.) d. 26 Nov 1893 30 yr 21 da This would seem to match 5 Nov 1863, and my bible date. But without a birth certificate....this information is only as good as the person who provided it at the time of her death. This is from the Allmon/Boring Cemetery Book, and I believe these were transcribed by the Marion County Gen Society. I have nothing on Marion W Boring (but believe him to be male) other than what is listed in the bible pages. He is not listed in the 1860 census abstract I have (which was done by someone else, not me). Because he isn't listed in that census, I believe he died before 1860, and most likely at or soon after birth. Regarding the birth year of Thomas J Boring, who knows! Census records indicate: 1850 he was 41 at the Sept. census 1860 he was 52 at the ?? (don't know when this census was taken) Anyway, with a birthdate of October 3rd, it looks like 1808 or 1807 to me. Where did you get 1804? Both census' indicate TN as birthplace. Keep in touch, Cheryle In a message dated 5/27/01 9:24:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Cheryle, > > Eli W. Boring Ellen Jones were married 23 Jul 1861. I have a copy of > their 50th Wedding Anniversary that appeared in the Salem newspaper. > > I have the marriage of Thomas Mrs Margaret Irwin as 19 Sep > 1842. > > Sophia Boring was born 9 Nov 1864. > > I have no record of Marion Boring. Is there any other info on > him/her. > > I have Thomas Boring born abt 1804 in Tenn. > > I had some info on the Jones' that was sent to me by a direct descendant > who is researching Ross Jones descendants'. I am in the process of > getting everything organized, updated, etc before I have my surgery. As > soon as I find it, I'll let you know. I remember one thing that stuck out > in my mind, she mentioned the Jones men died young because of > diabetes.

Hello Sid, You are welcome. As to who wrote these records, I'm sure we will never know! I believe they were written by Eliza Chance, simply because all of her marriages and all of her children were recorded. Also, recorded were some of Thomas Boring's children that were from his marriage (2nd) to Margaret Irvin. None of the children from Thomas Borings first marriage are listed. However, the 1860 census abstract I have shows Thomas, age 52 and Elizabeth Bowden, age 38, with the following children, Ely W, age 26 John (Irvin) age 23 George W, age 22 Joseph D, age 17 James, age 14 Rebecca, age 12 William age 4 and Thomas H, age 2 Thomas and Eliza had been married 5 years at the time of this census, so it is apparent she helped raise Thomas' children from his marriage to Margaret Irvin, which might explain why they are listed in the bible. Just my theory! I do believe many entries were written by the same person. It is also likely they may have been written at approximately the same time, which makes me question the validity of every date. Some of these dates have been proven by me, the majority have not. I use them only as a guide. Regarding the marriage of Thomas Boring and Margaret Irvin, I have an uncertified copy of the marriage license of Thomas Boring and Margaret Ann Ervin that I obtained from the Marion County Clerk in 1999, as follows: side one The State of Illinois } Marion County } SCT. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. TO ALL WHO SHALL SEE THESE PRESENTS-GREETING. KNOW YE, That License and Permission is hereby given to any person authorized by law to solemnize the RIGHTS OF MATRIMONY, to join together as husband and wife, Mr. Thomas Boring and Mrs. Margaret Ann Ervin according to the usual custom and the laws of the State of Illinois; and for so doing, this shall be his sufficient warrant. {seal} IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of the County Commissioners' Court of said County, at Salem this 17th day of September 1842 W W___ace CLERK side 2 Thomas Boring & M A Ervin License State of Illinois} Marion County} Ss. I certify that on the eighteent day of Sept. AD. 1842 I joined in matrimony Thomas Boring and Margaret Ann Ervin according to the usual custom and the laws of of the state of Illinois. Sep. 19th 1842 Justus R. Ryman M.G. The spelling and grammar errors are not mine, they belong to the Justus! It appears the license was issued on the 17th, marriage performed on the 18th and certified by the Justice on the 19th, all of September, 1842. Sorry to be so long, but hope this helps! Best Regards, Cheryle In a message dated 5/27/01 2:00:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Thank you, Cheryle. These dates are more compatible with census data so I > guess I have the right household located in the 1850 census. Can you tell > me the name of the individual who probably wrote those entries in that > bible, if it is known? > > I have the marriage date of Thomas J. Boring and Margaret Irwin as 17 Sep > 1842 in Marion County, book A, page 16. > > Sid

Are you saying if wanted to get my Grandpatrents marriage license for my Uncle who was married Dec 24, 1908 I could not get it. This man is 91 years old. This is as bad as Arkansas saying I could not have my Uncles Birth ceertificate unless he was dead 100 tears. I will be dead by then, especially since I have emphsyma. I guess also, you are saying I will never get the paper work I am waiting on about John Nichols. Am I reading this wrong? Karen May your day be filled with blessings from above. Researching: Alphin, Ball, Bass, Bean, Brannum, (Busemi, Buschier), Chesser, Cook, Clerke, Clemmens,Crews, Davis, Flagg, Forture, Hardin, Harris, Henry, Jamison, Jordan, Kerr, Kinnison, Marr, McKeown, McDonald, Miller, Myers, Moffett, Nichols, Gunthrie, Patterson, Price, Proctor, Reeves, Reno, Richardson, Rock, Russell, Smith, Teel, Thomas, Tucker, Walker, Ware, Winborn

Jan, Thank you very much for this information. I had no idea how to search for what might be available at the FHC's. Obviously, I have more resources available to me locally than I thought. Thanks, again Cheryl cardinelblue wrote: > Hi everyone, > The Illinois records, at least up until 1916 or later, are not closed to > genealogists. Almost all of us have an LDS library somewhere fairly close > to where we live. Go to this website: http://www.familysearch.com > Click on the tab labeled LIBRARY, then click on Family History Library > Catalog, then click on Place Search, then type in Marion - Illinois. > The following marriages are available on microfilm for us to look at and > each film is $3.25. > You can also click on FAMILY HISTORY CENTERS to find out where the nearest > library is to you. > Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk (Main Author) > Microfilm of original record in the Marion County courthouse, Salem, > Illinois. > Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1976 > Marriage records, 1821-1934 > Index to v. A-E 1821-1910 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010514 > Marriages v. A-D 1821-1887 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010515 > Marriages v. 1-2 1878-1907 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010518 > Marriages v. 3 1908-1919 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010519 > They also have these films. > Birth records, 1878-1916 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk > Death records, 1877-1915 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk > Death records, 1878-1915 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk > There are also films of all of the probate records, wills and land sales and > others things. > > The Illinois State Archives has death records from 1916 to 1945. IRAD holds > many records also. > > I know that the people at the courthouse should be more helpful, as they are > in other IL counties, but if they aren't we do have other resources. > > Jan Creek > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected]

Hi everyone, The Illinois records, at least up until 1916 or later, are not closed to genealogists. Almost all of us have an LDS library somewhere fairly close to where we live. Go to this website: http://www.familysearch.com Click on the tab labeled LIBRARY, then click on Family History Library Catalog, then click on Place Search, then type in Marion - Illinois. The following marriages are available on microfilm for us to look at and each film is $3.25. You can also click on FAMILY HISTORY CENTERS to find out where the nearest library is to you. Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk (Main Author) Microfilm of original record in the Marion County courthouse, Salem, Illinois. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1976 Marriage records, 1821-1934 Index to v. A-E 1821-1910 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010514 Marriages v. A-D 1821-1887 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010515 Marriages v. 1-2 1878-1907 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010518 Marriages v. 3 1908-1919 - FHL US/CAN Film 1010519 They also have these films. Birth records, 1878-1916 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk Death records, 1877-1915 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk Death records, 1878-1915 Marion County (Illinois). County Clerk There are also films of all of the probate records, wills and land sales and others things. The Illinois State Archives has death records from 1916 to 1945. IRAD holds many records also. I know that the people at the courthouse should be more helpful, as they are in other IL counties, but if they aren't we do have other resources. Jan Creek

Cheryl I got the basically the same form letter from Cliff. On top of that he cashed my check kept the money. I have been told that it depends on who reads your letter on whether you get the info or not. I was told the money was kept for their time bother. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rothwell To: [email protected] Sent: 5/24/01 1:31:52 PM Subject: [ILMARION] Marriage Records I received the following email query: ...a form letter from Marion County Clerk and Recorder, Cliff Neudecker. The first line of that form states: "According to Illinois law, our birth, death and marriage records are closed to the public, however, member of any Illinois Genealogical Society may check indexes only to 1916." The lady wants a marriage record from 1907 or 1908. I really don't believe she has a firm date. However, I do not understand why she would not be allowed a copy should she know the date. Is she misunderstanding something or has Illinois law changed that much since I moved out of state? Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] --- Nancy Johns --- [email protected] Is there a CHANCE that the PURSLEY's, FINDLAY's, THOMSON's, SMITH's are BORING

Cheryle, Eli W. Boring Ellen Jones were married 23 Jul 1861. I have a copy of their 50th Wedding Anniversary that appeared in the Salem newspaper. I have the marriage of Thomas Mrs Margaret Irwin as 19 Sep 1842. Sophia Boring was born 9 Nov 1864. I have no record of Marion Boring. Is there any other info on him/her. I have Thomas Boring born abt 1804 in Tenn. I had some info on the Jones' that was sent to me by a direct descendant who is researching Ross Jones descendants'. I am in the process of getting everything organized, updated, etc before I have my surgery. As soon as I find it, I'll let you know. I remember one thing that stuck out in my mind, she mentioned the Jones men died young because of diabetes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sid Fisher To: [email protected] Sent: 5/27/01 3:59:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] PART II: THE LINE OF JAMES WILEY CHANCE Thank you, Cheryle. These dates are more compatible with census data so I guess I have the right household located in the 1850 census. Can you tell me the name of the individual who probably wrote those entries in that bible, if it is known? I have the marriage date of Thomas J. Boring and Margaret Irwin as 17 Sep 1842 in Marion County, book A, page 16. Sid ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] PART II: THE LINE OF JAMES WILEY CHANCE Sid, Happy to help with what I have. As I mentioned previously, there seems to be many discrepancies in the Silas Wright book. My information comes from bible pages which are in my possession. Rather than give this to you in tree form, I will type it the way it appears in the bible. My own notes or comments are within brackets. You will see that the 1850 census information appears to be much more accurate than the Wright book, and corroborates most of the info I have below. Births [side 1, column 1] Wm B. Jones born March 3d, 1820 [aka Willis Jones] Eliza A Chance born Feb 27, 1822 Thos J Boring born Oct 3d 18 First Child - Son - unnamed born Feb 27 1840. Henry B Jones born June 15, 1841. Elizabeth E Jones born Dec 18th, 1844. Erasmus J. Jones born June 18, 1847. Willis B Jones born Dec 28, 1849. Eliza Ann Jones born Jan 6th 1852. [side 1, column 2] Wm Boring born June 6th 1856. Thos H Boring born Sept 3d 1858. Marion W Boring born Nov 5th 1859 Sophie Boring born Nov 5th 186 [thought to be 1863] Births [side 2, column 1] Irvin/Irwin Joseph D Boring born July 31st 1843 James G Boring born Jan 31st 1844 [probably 1847] Rebecca A Boring born Oct 31st 1848. Marriages [side 1, column 1] Willis B Jones and Eliza Ann Chance were married Feb 19th, 1839. Charles M Smith and Eliza Ann [Chance Jones] Boring were married Sept 24th AD 1870 [side 1, column 2] Thos J. Boring and E. A. [Chance] Jones were married June 10th 1855 Marriages [side 2, column 1] Henry B Jones and Sarah Ballance were Married Dec 6th 1859. [side 2, column 2] Elizabeth Pursley. Ellen Jones was dau of Willis Jones and Eliza Chance Eli Boring and Ellen Jones were Married July , 1859 There are other births and marriages listed, but the ones I have listed here pertain to the Jones' and Eliza Chance. I hope this is of some help to you. Best Regards, Cheryle Boring In a message dated 5/25/01 1:37:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Cheryle, Help me out. The Jones data I have from the 1850 Federal Census of Marion County, lists Henry as Willis head of household and provides estimated birth years for the children of Henry (or Willis) and Eliza Chance (my 1C4R) as abt 1841 for Henry, abt 1845 for Eliza, abt 1847 for Rasmus, and abt 1850 for Willis. These dates, of course, do not agree with the dates in Silas Brown Wright's book. Do I have the wrong Jones family located in the 1850 Federal Census? Sid Researching FISHER, SHINN, COLE, NICHOLS, POWELL, GRAY, WRIGHT, CHANCE, BLAIR, HORD, GERKING in Southern Illinois.

I have John Blackburn......Andrew T Blackburn;;Frances Blackburn......wove into Browns; Weavers; Eddings; Jan Staples ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 3:40 PM Subject: [ILMARION] Payne, Combs, Chandler, Finley, Tully etc > Hi, > > If anyone is related would love to hear from you. > Blackburn > Chandler > Combs > Finley > Payne > Tully > > and more.. > Diane Payne in Seattle, WA > Sumner Co. TNGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner/index.html > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > >

Hi, If anyone is related would love to hear from you. Blackburn Chandler Combs Finley Payne Tully and more.. Diane Payne in Seattle, WA Sumner Co. TNGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnsumner/index.html

Trying to find out if anyone has information on a Nancy Ann Boring. I have her marriage to Elijah Hood on 12 April 1860 (FOOTPRINTS, Winter 93, p 7), but nothing on her parents. --- Nancy Johns --- [email protected] Is there a CHANCE that the PURSLEY's, FINDLAY's, THOMSON's, SMITH's are BORING

Thank you, Cheryle. These dates are more compatible with census data so I guess I have the right household located in the 1850 census. Can you tell me the name of the individual who probably wrote those entries in that bible, if it is known? I have the marriage date of Thomas J. Boring and Margaret Irwin as 17 Sep 1842 in Marion County, book A, page 16. Sid ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILMARION] PART II: THE LINE OF JAMES WILEY CHANCE > Sid, > > Happy to help with what I have. As I mentioned previously, there seems to be > many discrepancies in the Silas Wright book. My information comes from bible > pages which are in my possession. Rather than give this to you in tree form, > I will type it the way it appears in the bible. My own notes or comments are > within brackets. You will see that the 1850 census information appears to be > much more accurate than the Wright book, and corroborates most of the info I > have below. > > Births [side 1, column 1] > Wm B. Jones born March 3d, 1820 [aka Willis Jones] > Eliza A Chance born Feb 27, 1822 > Thos J Boring born Oct 3d 18 > <the following are the children of Willis Jones and Eliza Chance> > First Child - Son - unnamed born Feb 27 1840. > Henry B Jones born June 15, 1841. > Elizabeth E Jones born Dec 18th, 1844. > Erasmus J. Jones born June 18, 1847. > Willis B Jones born Dec 28, 1849. > Eliza Ann Jones born Jan 6th 1852. > > [side 1, column 2] > <the following are the children of Thos J Boring and Eliza Chance Jones> > Wm Boring born June 6th 1856. > Thos H Boring born Sept 3d 1858. > Marion W Boring born Nov 5th 1859 > Sophie Boring born Nov 5th 186 [thought to be 1863] > > Births [side 2, column 1] > <the following are the children of Thos J Boring and Margaret ? Irvin/Irwin> > Joseph D Boring born July 31st 1843 > James G Boring born Jan 31st 1844 [probably 1847] > Rebecca A Boring born Oct 31st 1848. > > > Marriages [side 1, column 1] > Willis B Jones and Eliza Ann Chance were married Feb 19th, 1839. > Charles M Smith and Eliza Ann [Chance Jones] Boring were married Sept 24th AD > 1870 > > [side 1, column 2] > Thos J. Boring and E. A. [Chance] Jones were married June 10th 1855 > > Marriages [side 2, column 1] > Henry B Jones and Sarah Ballance were Married Dec 6th 1859. > > [side 2, column 2] > <these two were step brother/sister, Eli was son of Thos J Boring and > Elizabeth Pursley. Ellen Jones was dau of Willis Jones and Eliza > Chance><other sources indicate a marriage date of July 28 1861> > Eli Boring and Ellen Jones were Married July , 1859 > > There are other births and marriages listed, but the ones I have listed here > pertain to the Jones' and Eliza Chance. > > I hope this is of some help to you. > > Best Regards, > Cheryle Boring > > > In a message dated 5/25/01 1:37:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > Hi Cheryle, > > > > Help me out. The Jones data I have from the 1850 Federal Census of Marion > > County, lists Henry as Willis head of household and provides estimated > birth > > years for the children of Henry (or Willis) and Eliza Chance (my 1C4R) as > > abt 1841 for Henry, abt 1845 for Eliza, abt 1847 for Rasmus, and abt 1850 > > for Willis. These dates, of course, do not agree with the dates in Silas > > Brown Wright's book. > > > > Do I have the wrong Jones family located in the 1850 Federal Census? > > > > Sid > > > > Researching FISHER, SHINN, COLE, NICHOLS, POWELL, GRAY, WRIGHT, CHANCE, > > BLAIR, HORD, GERKING in Southern Illinois. > > > > > ==== ILMARION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ILMARION List if you are in mail mode, send to > [email protected] If you are receiving messages in the digest mode, send to [email protected] > >

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Do you know if Samuel Michael had a brother named Elias? Elias Michael was born in about 1805 and died in Greene Co., IN in 1880. The Census shows many different states as his birth place-Illinois in 1850 Census, Kentucky in the 1860 and in 1870 he was born in Virginia. I think I found his son Samuel living in Lawrence Co., IL in the 1850 Census. I have one marriage listed for him in Greene Co., IN in 1845 to Polly Russell. My gr grandfather Lewis Newton Michael said his mother was Mary Butler. Newt was born about 1855 in Greene Co., IN. Mary Gardner

Hey Steve, Your Bell's don't included a Joseph Bell married to Morning Full of Love Williams, do they. Their daughter Almedia Fannie Bell b. 1866 and d. 1896 and married Stephan Amos Phillips in 1886 in Marion County, IL. I'm stuck on this line. I hope you can help. Michelle Clark [email protected]

Hello, all- I'm researching Knight and Burns from the Salem area. Karen Murphy

My records are somewhat convoluted at this point thanks to my computer being stolen last year, but for Marion County: HUCKELBERRY (HUCKLEBERRY/HUCKELBURY), BIERMAN (BIERMANN), WALLIS, YOUNG The Huckelberrys and the Biermans in Marion County date to roughly 1850-1860. - phil

Paula Earls wrote: > Which Burketts are you looking for? I'm descended from Needham Burkett > (1810, TN-?) through his > daughter Sarah Burkett > (1855-1939) who was the second wife of John Sinclair (1837-1919). > > Also descended from Samuel Michael (1815-1896) and his second wife, Mary > Ann Collins (1835-1879). > Am wondering what happened > to the children of his son, Charles E. Michaels' first marriage (m. Lucy > Connelly (1874-1918) in 1896 and > there were 6 children > from this union. I'm descended from Charles second marriage (Louisa > Rebecca Sinclair). > > please contact me if these are the Burketts you're looking for. > > paula earls > > [email protected] wrote: > > > BURKETT, WILTON, O'BRIANT, HUMPHRIES, ELLIOTT > >

Which Burketts are you looking for? I'm descended from Needham Burkett (1810, TN-?) through his daughter Sarah Burkett (1855-1939) who was the second wife of John Sinclair (1837-1919). Also descended from Samuel Michael (1815-1896) and his second wife, Mary Ann Collins (1835-1879). Am wondering what happened to the children of his son, Charles E. Michaels' first marriage (m. Lucy Connelly (1874-1918) in 1896 and there were 6 children from this union. I'm descended from Charles second marriage (Louisa Rebecca Sinclair). please contact me if these are the Burketts you're looking for. paula earls [email protected] wrote: > BURKETT, WILTON, O'BRIANT, HUMPHRIES, ELLIOTT >

Hi All ... Guess it's time to post my line again in hopes of connecting with someone. Steve Bartow, FL *************** 1 James Bell b. abt 1820 TN d. 17 May 1880 m. Martha Marcum m. 18 Dec 1837 Sumner Co., TN d. 16 Jan 1897 2 Green Bell b. abt. 1844 TN d. bef 1920 m. Susan Knight m. 13 Mar 1872 Marion Co., IL b. 8 Dec 1852 Marion County, IL d. 8 Apr 1936 Tilden, Randolph Co., IL 3 Agnes Bell b. 22 Dec 1874 Marion Co., IL d. 23 Aug 1945 3 Chester Bell b. abt 1883 IL 3 Luther Bell b. abt. 1873 IL 3 Arthur C. Bell b. abt. 1879 IL 3 Ernest E. Bell b. 4 Jan 1887 Ranbdolph County, IL d. 10 May 1952 Alton State Hospital, Madison Co., IL 2 Isaac Newton Bell b. 1852 TN 2 Matilda Bell b. abt 1854 IL 2 Martha Bell b. abt 1856 IL 2 Emeline Bell b. abt 1857 IL 2 Mary Jane Bell b. abt 1863 IL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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