Your message came through dated November 12, 2004. -----Original Message----- From: T10307@aol.com [mailto:T10307@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:28 PM To: ILMAGA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMAGA] WALLACE surname I apologize to the list if you are receiving this query for the second time. I am not sure that my first mail to the list went through the other day. Can someone let me know if they are getting these?? THANKS I am searching for documentation on my gg-grandmothers parentage in Morgan and Scott Co. IL. I am hoping someone out there has some info or these names look familiar. I appreciate any help!!! With thanks.. Penny SARAH ELIZABETH WALLACE b. October 17, 1853, Woodson, Morgan CO, IL (from her daughters obit..place not proven) d. October 24, 1931 Roodhouse, Greene Co., IL Married William Henry WHITEHEAD February 23, 1874, Greene Co., IL (Illinois marriage records WHITEHEAD, WILLIAM to WALLACE, ELIZABETH 02/23/1874 00F/0036 00007130 GREENE) On later census records, Sarah Elizabeth lists both parents born in TN. I believe Sarah Elizabeth Wallace's parents to be Joseph Wallace b. about 1815, TN and Mary unknown b. about 1815, TN. 1850, Greene Co, IL North of Apple Creek Wallace, Joseph.....35 yo, b. TN, farmer Mary...............35 yo, b. TN Hester A..........9 yo, b. IL William............7 yo, b. IL James.............4 yo, b. IL John A............4 months, b. IL (married Elizabeth Rogers)12/09/1853 living next door Wallace, Alexander.......37 yo, b. TN, farmer America (Clark)............22 yo, b. KY Ester A.......................15 yo, b. TN William.......................13 yo, b. TN Enoch Clark................49, laborer, b. VA (America's father) 1860 Greene Co., IL, North of Apple Creek WALLACE JOSEPH 47 M W FARM LAB TN WALLACE MARY 45 F W TN WALLACE HESTER A 19 F W DOMESTIC TN WALLACE WILLIAM 18 M W FARM LAB TN WALLACE JAMES 15 M W FARM LAB IL WALLACE ELIZABETH 7 F W IL In 1870 I find who I believe to be Sarah Elizabeth listed as ELIZABETH, living with her brother, William Wallace and his wife, Loretta Clark in Greene Co. ==== ILMAGA Mailing List ==== Lots of Menard County Cemetery Inscriptions on the MAGA site, as well as many photos of tombstones. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/menard/cemetery/1_cem_list.html

Campbell, Clark (2), Irwin, Keith, Meats, Orr, Osborn, Parke (2), Perry, Ritchie

Am forwarding the message below to the list in hopes that someone will recognize the family involved. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Lange" <langes@mail.wcresa.k12.mi.us> To: <saleguas@motion.net> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 9:59 AM Subject: Marriage Book > Hi: > > I live in Michigan and I have in my possession a "Wedding Book" for John > H Russel and Mary Louise Barr who were married in Jacksonville, IL on 14 > Oct 1903. It lists Westminster (I think) Presbyterian Church and the > witnesses. Also have a baptism card for John and the funeral book for > him. Would like to see that his descendants get these items. Just > requesting reimbursement of postage. Could you get this message to the > Morgan County Genealogical Society or whoever could benefit by this? > Thanks! > > Sarah Lange >

Dear Shirley... many of my grandfather's family were Rickers and or Richters...so you have more info on them...? rkleffner@earthlink.net Shirley Aleguas wrote: > Obit: Richardson > > 1878 Morgan Co.: Fairbank, Howard, Higgins, Hinrichsen (2), Hocking, Hodges, Hopper, Lester, Luther > > 1891 Macoupin: Alford, Arnett, Beeby, Black, Bowersox, Bown, Casteel, Dawson, Fansler, Fullington, Halliday, > Hanshaw, Huber, Moehrman, Nifong, Nighbert, Steidley, Stratmann > > 1891 Sangamon : Sinniger > > 1892 Cass: Bell, Pence > > 1904 Sangamon: Richter, Snodgrass (2), Wurster > > 1906 Morgan: Loar > > 1912 Sangamon: Woolary > > 1915 Cass: Mann > > ==== ILMAGA Mailing List ==== > New For Cass County: The 1892 Biographical Review Index for Cass, Brown, and Schuyler Counties, Illinois > All on the MAGA site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html

Obit: Richardson 1878 Morgan Co.: Fairbank, Howard, Higgins, Hinrichsen (2), Hocking, Hodges, Hopper, Lester, Luther 1891 Macoupin: Alford, Arnett, Beeby, Black, Bowersox, Bown, Casteel, Dawson, Fansler, Fullington, Halliday, Hanshaw, Huber, Moehrman, Nifong, Nighbert, Steidley, Stratmann 1891 Sangamon : Sinniger 1892 Cass: Bell, Pence 1904 Sangamon: Richter, Snodgrass (2), Wurster 1906 Morgan: Loar 1912 Sangamon: Woolary 1915 Cass: Mann

Dear Kathy, I am a descendant of Jane Criswell and Ezekial McCurley through their dau. Susan. I have a little bit on the Criswell's, and would like to know more. Maybe if we put our info together, we'll fill in some blanks for each other! I also have a few Fannings back in collatoral lines. I will pull some of mine into a report of some sort and email you directly. Juli Claussen

I'm looking for information on the CRISWELL family. I have been searching the land records for Lauderdale Co. AL and found Patience CRISWELL living next door to Joseph FANNING. I believe that this Patience is the Patience married to Samuel and am wondering if he was deceased by 1818. The land record only lists Patience and not Samuel. I have some information on the Criswell family but would like to compare information. The children that I show are Jane Criswell married Ezekiel McCurley, Patience married George Nichols, George B. married Jane Meradeth (sp?) Celia married Washington Fanning, Althea married Sampson Fanning and Robert married Anna Fanning. Thank you. Cathy Fanning Stoppel

In a message dated 11/14/00 10:01:42 AM Central Standard Time, ILMAGA-D- Ginger, Do you have the web address for the THOMPSON site you mentioned (see below)? Thanks for sharing your THOMPSON info! Sincerely, Becky request@rootsweb.com writes: > The John Thompson in Morgan County may be the John you are looking for. > There is a website for these Thompsons. > Quite a bit of information on this family. > Ginger > >

Just FYI there was a John Thompson who had a son R.D> Thompson who married a Lucinda Schaffer in Cass County,Illinois which is just over the county border. There is also a Richard Thompson who married a Josephine Nolden who is my husbands great grandfather and great grandmother. I know his fathers name was also John Thomson,but with no P. Our Richards father John had a wife named Anna Garris,they were from the Harrisburg,Pennsylvannia area. Our Richard was born 1859,but his father may have come over from Germany around 1847,have not confirmed this as of yet. 1861 Dauphin County,PA census shows two Johns,but have not seen actual census. I am looking for John Thomson of Germany. He may have left PA and moved to Illinois as well as his son Richard. Or Richard died of dropsey the year after he married Josephine and his son Clifford was born after Richard died. Richard is buried in a Potters Field in Beardstown,Illinois,Cass County. If you happen to find any other pertinent information on John Thomson,please let me know. The John Thompson in Morgan County may be the John you are looking for. There is a website for these Thompsons. Quite a bit of information on this family. Ginger ---------- From: DJENK49754@aol.com To: ILMAGA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMAGA] THOMPSON, John,John N., Nancy/CUTLER 1840+ Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 9:37 PM Hoping to learn/share info on the following: 1840 Census Morgan Co., IL: THOMPSON, John N.    IL MORGAN CO.   Pg. 456         2 M over 5 and under 10      1 M over 20 and under 30     1 M over 50 and under 60 1 F over 10 and under 15     2 F  over 20 and under 30     1 F over 50 and under 60 08/07/1845 Morgan Co., IL:   THOMPSON, John N. married CUTLER, Susan 1847 Nov. Morgan Co., IL:   THOMPSON, John N., attorney in fact, for John THOMPSON sells the NWSE Sec 20 T16N  R12W to Nancy THOMPSON. Suggestions, as to where to go from here, are definitly encouraged! Becky ==== ILMAGA Mailing List ==== Morgan County 1870 Census is now online!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html ----------

A series of articles written by Myra Martin in recognition of the state Sesquicentennial in 1968 regarding the history of Morgan County - they were published in the Waverly Journal. Some of the early settlers are mentioned in these articles. Kehl Obituary 1878 Morgan Co. Bios: Evans, Foreaker, Graff, Gray, Green, Hann, Hardin, Harley, Harney, Hatcher, Hayden (2), Heinz, Hellenthal, Hess, hickman, Leonhard, Manchester, Owen 1891 Sangamon Co. Bio: Bowers

Hi, You make this sound so interesting, I am a little slow, what are you suggesting? I will take another look at the information you sent. I have an early appointment, how about telling me now. Anything to get some answers. Tell me do you think Nancy Thompson is the person Walter, says or is he thinking about Amanda, and he has the names confused. What is your thinking about this????? I have all ready have a letter out to see if I can get a death certificate on Susan Frances Negenah. Bed time for me. I will be here for a few more minutes. Happy dreams. Remember when you go to Sedalia take a good magnifying glass. Don't for get call me first. Ha Any suggestions, lets get this show on the road. I was waiting to see if I could find a 1855 census I am about to give up. Let me know what you are thinking, before I write the Jacksonville Court House. Lorma

Hoping to learn/share info on the following: 1840 Census Morgan Co., IL: THOMPSON, John N.    IL MORGAN CO.   Pg. 456         2 M over 5 and under 10      1 M over 20 and under 30     1 M over 50 and under 60 1 F over 10 and under 15     2 F  over 20 and under 30     1 F over 50 and under 60 08/07/1845 Morgan Co., IL:   THOMPSON, John N. married CUTLER, Susan 1847 Nov. Morgan Co., IL:   THOMPSON, John N., attorney in fact, for John THOMPSON sells the NWSE Sec 20 T16N  R12W to Nancy THOMPSON. Suggestions, as to where to go from here, are definitly encouraged! Becky

1881 Morgan Co.: Edmondson, Edson (2), Evans, Ewing, Eyre, Fairbank, Feore, Fleming (3), Fligg, Fromme, Fry, Gordon, Gottschall, Graves, Hopper 1881 Sangamon Co.: Dickerson (2), Fawcett, Funderburk, Lamb (2), Lanham, Phillips, Thomas, Thompson 1885 Greene Co.: Darr, Snyder 1891 Sangamon Co.: Thompson (2) 1904 Sangamon Co.: Lee 1912 Sangamon Co.: Becraft, Bisch, Fawcett (2), Kessler (2), Stockdale, Thompson (2) Obituary: Follansbee Photo Album: Violett

I have a census item from Scotland which gives the place of birth as St. Louisville, North America. It is one of my many Smiths who settled in Jacksonville. I'm wondering if it is St. Louis, Missouri, or Jacksonville, IL. Any educated guesses out there ? Was St. Louis once called St. Louisville ? Marion

How about Louisville,Kentucky?Just a hunch Ginger-OH ---------- > From: Marion Baker <marion.baker@nf.sympatico.ca> > To: ILMAGA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMAGA] St. Louisville ? > Date: Saturday, November 11, 2000 11:06 PM > > I have a census item from Scotland which gives the place of birth as St. > Louisville, North America. It is one of my many Smiths who settled in > Jacksonville. I'm wondering if it is St. Louis, Missouri, or > Jacksonville, IL. Any educated guesses out there ? Was St. Louis once > called St. Louisville ? > Marion > > > ==== ILMAGA Mailing List ==== > Scott County Farmers Directory is now online, as well as the 1850 thru 1880 > Census records. These Links can be found at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html

Pictures: 1878 Morgan Co.: Burnett, Isham; Curtiss, T.E.; Devore, J.H.; Hart, Wm. P.; Langley, James; Orear, Wm.; Seymour, Wm. (in bio for J. Seymour); Strawn, Jacob; Reinbach, H.; Widenham, J.C. 1878 Morgan Bios: Conkle, Corbett, Cunningham, Eador, Covey (2), Crawford, Cully, Culverson, Daley, Daniels, Darley, Davidson, Dean, Denby, Dettmer, Devore (3), Dickens, Dresbach, Dubbel, Duer, Eagle, Eastman, Ennis, Gentry, Orear, Reinbach, Strawn, Widenham, Yost, Zerby 1885 Greene Co.: Rigg 1892 Cass Co.: Black (2), Greer, Hansmeyer, Munroe - Bio & Picture; Rigg (2) 1904 Sangamon Co.: Coons

I've added The "Civil War Veteran's Discharge Index" for Morgan County to the MAGA page. Transcribed by Florence - she says the discharges are in excellent condition. As soon as I receive a copy of my great grandfather's discharge, I'll scan and put online so you can see what the discharge actually looks like. I know some of the names are mis-spelled so be sure to check carefully for your surname. In addition - the following bios are new: 1878 Morgan: Clay 1881 Sangamon: Smith, Thompson (3) 1904 Sangamon: Coats 1912 Sangamon: Tilley

Thanks, Mary Ann, for the inspiring message. We need to be reminded frequently of the sacrifices and horrors our young men have faced in keeping this country free. Carol

OH WOW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ann Kaylor" <makaylor@motion.net> To: <ILMAGA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: [ILMAGA] World War II Monument > I do believe this might have some genealogical value in that the men > portrayed raising the flag on the Iwo Jimo monument in Washington DC are > identified along with a story from one of the sons of the heroes. > > Mary Ann > > >Subject: Marines > > > > >Sent by a Marine veteran of Korea and Vietnam...... > > > > > > > > >Each year I am hired to go to Washington DC with the eight grade > > >class from Clinton, WI where I grew up, to videotape their trip. > > >I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I > > >take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially > > >memorable. > > > > > >On the last night of our trip we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. > > >This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and > > >depicts one of the most famous photographs in history - that of > > >the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of > > >a rocky hill on the Island of Iwo Jima, Japan during WW II. > > >Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses > > >and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at > > >the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "Where > > >are you guys from?" > > > > > >I told him that we were from Wisconsin. "Hey, I'm a Cheeshead > > >too! Come gather around Cheeseheads, and I will tell you a story." > > > > > >(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington DC to speak at > > >the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say > > >good night to his dad, who has since passed away. He was just > > >about to leave when he saw the buses pull up. I videotaped him > > >as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he > > >said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments > > >filled with history in Washington DC. > > >But it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received > > >that night. When all had gathered around he reverently began to > > >speak. Here are his words that night.) > > > > > >"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad > > >is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our > > >Father's" which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list > > >right now. It is the story of the six boys you see behind me. > > >Six boys raised the flag. > > > > > >The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. > > >Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the > > >Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. > > >They were off to play another type of game. A game called "War." But it > > >didn't turn out to be a game. > > >Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands. > > >I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are > > >generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the > > >glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in > > >Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old. > > > > > >(He pointed to the statue) > > > > > >You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire. > > >If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken, > > >and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a > > >photograph. A photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in > > >there for protection, because he was scared. He was 18 years old. > > >Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men. > > > > > >The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant > > >Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these > > >guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. > > >He was already 24. When Mike would motivate his boys in training > > >camp, he didn't say, "Let's go kill some Japanese" or "Let's die > > >for our country." He knew he was talking to little boys. > > >Instead he would say, "You do what I say, and I'll get you home > > >to your mothers." > > > > > >The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima > > >Indian from Arizona. Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went > > >into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, > > >"You're a hero." He told reporters, "How can I feel like a hero > > >when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us > > >walked off alive?" > > > > > >So you take your class at school. 250 of you spending a year > > >together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of > > >you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was > > >Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes > > >died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32. Ten years after this picture > > >was taken. > > > > > >The next guy, going around the statue is Franklin Sousley from > > >Hilltop Kentucky. A fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, > > >who is now 70 told me, "We pushed two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop > > >General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so > > >the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epson salts. You > > >know what happened. Yes he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. > > >Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram > > >came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop > > >General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his > > >mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and > > >into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away. > > > > > >The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue is my dad, > > >John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised. My dad > > >lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When > > >Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, > > >we were trained as little kids to say, "No, I'm sorry sir, my > > >dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone > > >there sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back." My dad > > >never fished or even went to Canada. Usually he was sitting there > > >right at the table eating his Campbell's soup. But we had to > > >tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk > > >to the press. You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. > > >Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, because they are in a > > >photo and a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. > > >John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he > > >probably held over 200 boys as they died. > > > > > >And when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain. > > > > > >When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my > > >dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked > > >at me and said,"I want you always to remember that the heroes of > > >Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. " > > > > > >So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on > > >Iwo Jima, and three came back as national heroes. Overall 7000 > > >boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the > > >Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank > > >you for your time." > > > > > >Suddenly the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a > > >flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes > > >with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father > > >who was a hero. Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people > > >would believe, but a hero none-the-less. > > CONVERSE CONNECTIONS > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~converse/index.html > CONVERSE MAIL LIST Administrator > > MY FAMILY GENEALOGY > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILMAGA Mailing List ==== > ILMAGA Web site covers Central IL Counties of Scott; Morgan; Cass; > Menard; Sangamon; Macoupin and Greene. Check out our page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html > >

Without question Shirley and Mary Ann have built a site of fantastic value, Thanks ladies. TOM SAXTON