A few days ago someone posted here something that mentioned the surname MARTENS. I cut and pasted it to send to a friend researching that line but the paste didn't stick and I didn't catch it before the message went out. Now the posting has been deleted. Does anyone happen to have that posting? It must have come over about July 22 or 23. Thanks, Bud Frohardt Elgin, IL Kane County ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.