They are all deceased!!! My grandmother Helen Vernida just passed away earlier this year in February. Colleen >From: Lorraine Newsome <genealogyhelp@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com >To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Madison County Info >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:00:45 -0400 > >Coleen, > >You are a wonder!! I have received the copies of the death, marriage and >birth records. One question. I am just a tad bit hesitant about the birth >records. I haven't read through everything I received today, but if those >folks are still living, I wouldn't feel comfortable putting those docs on >line. I might do the names, and dates, no years, and other info, but for >the rest, I would feel better if I knew if they were still with us. I >usually use the 1910 cut-off date for stuff like that. > >Let me know.... > >And thanks again!! > >Lorraine > > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: >ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to >ILMADISO as a separate email. >ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single >large message. >

Coleen, You are a wonder!! I have received the copies of the death, marriage and birth records. One question. I am just a tad bit hesitant about the birth records. I haven't read through everything I received today, but if those folks are still living, I wouldn't feel comfortable putting those docs on line. I might do the names, and dates, no years, and other info, but for the rest, I would feel better if I knew if they were still with us. I usually use the 1910 cut-off date for stuff like that. Let me know.... And thanks again!! Lorraine

I read this; it is very good, but I am not related. How SAD to hear about the drown death in Destin, Florida. Dora ----- Original Message ----- From: <PALMEEM@aol.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Re: Marriages Madison County > > > Last Updated: > > November 2003 > > Descendants of William Yakstis >>

Last Updated: November 2003 Descendants of William Yakstis   Generation No. 1 1. William1 Yakstis was born Abt. 1875 in Lithuania, and died March 1955 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. He married Mary Bates . She was born August 15, 1881 in Lithuania, and died October 10, 1957 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > More About William Yakstis: > > > >> Burial: March 31, 1955, Bethalo City Cemetery, Madison, Illinois >> >> Census: April 16, 1910, Farmington Township, Fulton, Illinois >> >> Funeral Home: Smith Funeral Home, Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >> >> Immigration: 1895, Port of entry unknown >> >> Nationality: Lithuanian >> >> Naturalization: 1905, Illinois or Pennsylvania >> >> Occupation: Coal Miner - Machinist >> >> > > More About Mary Bates: > >> >> Burial: Bethalo City Cemetery, Madison, Illinois >> Immigration: 1897, Possibly 1900 - Port of entry unknown >> Naturalization: 1905, Illinois or Pennsylvania > Children of William Yakstis and Mary Bates are: + 2 i. William2 Yakstis, born January 13, 1904 in Scranton, Pennsylvania; died February 05, 1969 in East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois. + 3 ii. Andy Yakstis, born September 12, 1899 in Export, Pennsylvania; died May 1976 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois.  Generation No. 2 2. William2 Yakstis (William1) was born January 13, 1904 in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and died February 05, 1969 in East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois. He married (1) Ruth Voss July 28, 1928 in East Saint Louis, Madison, Illinois. She was born Unknown. He married (2) Casimira Dagis , daughter of Jonas Dagys and Emilija Slapelis. She was born  ~ Still Living ~ in  Illinois. > > More About William Yakstis: > >> >> Burial: Mt. Carmel Cemetery, East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois >> Graduation: April 26, 1919, Maryville Elementary School >> Occupation: Coal Miner - Trapper >> Social Security Number: 489-07-0422 > > More About Casimira Dagis: > >> >> ~ Still Living ~ > Child of William Yakstis and Ruth Voss is: + 7 i. Patsy Ruth3 Voss, born Abt. 1931; died September 17, 2003. Children of William Yakstis and Casimira Dagis are: + 4 i. William3 Yakstis, born ~ Still Living ~  in  Illinois. + 5 ii. Michael William Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~  in   Illinois. 6 iii. Mary Louise Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~  3. Andy2 Yakstis (William1) was born September 12, 1899 in Export, Pennsylvania, and died May 1976 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. He married Alvina Johnson in Illinois. She was born November 01, 1908, and died January 1982 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > > More About Andy Yakstis: > >> >> Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >> Occupation: Miner >> Social Security Number: 344-03-9686 > > More About Alvina Johnson: > >> >> Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >> Social Security Number: 351-22-5937 > Children of Andy Yakstis and Alvina Johnson are: + 8 i. Andy3 Yakstis,~ Still Living ~  + 9 ii. Donald Lee Yakstis, born November 10, 1934 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois; died December 02, 1987 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois.  Generation No. 3 4. William3 Yakstis (William2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~  , Illinois. He married Carol Ann Walz March 10, 1975 in Saint Louis, Missouri, daughter of Albert Walz and Betty Pursey. She was born ~ Still Living ~  in, Missouri. Children of William Yakstis and Carol Walz are: + 10 i. Nichole Ann4 Yakstis~ Still Living ~  11 ii. Natalie Annette Yakstis~ Still Living ~  12 iii. Victoria Elizabeth Yakstis~ Still Living ~    5. Michael William3 Yakstis (William2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~   in  Illinois. He married Johnnie Lou Johnson . She was born ~ Still Living ~  . Children of Michael Yakstis and Johnnie Johnson are: 13 i. Michael4 Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~  14 ii. Loriane Catherine Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~    7. Patsy Ruth3 Voss (William2 Yakstis, William1) was born Abt. 1931, and died September 17, 2003. She married Charles T. Blackey  ~ Still Living ~  . Children of Patsy Voss and Charles Blackey are: + 15 i. Beverly4 Blackey.~ Still Living ~  + 16 ii. Craig Blackey.~ Still Living ~    8. Andy3 Yakstis (Andy2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~   He Married Unknown. Child of Andy Yakstis is: 17 i. Heath4. ~ Still Living ~    9. Donald Lee3 Yakstis (Andy2, William1) was born November 10, 1934 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois, and died December 02, 1987 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. He married (1) Bonnie Irwin , daughter of Carl Irwin and Doris Unknown. She died January 27, 2003. He married (2) Marietta Butler Wilkinson April 1975, daughter of Elmer Butler and Ethel Engieman. She was born January 12, 1941 in Elco, Illinois, and died June 08, 2003 in Sea Grove Beach, Florida. > > More About Donald Lee Yakstis: > >> >> Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois > > More About Marietta Butler Wilkinson: > >> >> Burial: June 13, 2003, Cape County Memorial Park in Cape Girardeau >> Cause of Death: She drowned in the ocean off of Destin, FL. > Children of Donald Yakstis and Bonnie Irwin are: + 18 i. Dawn4 Renee. + 19 ii. Michelle Christine. Child of Donald Yakstis and Marietta Wilkinson is: 20 i. Donald Lee4 Yakstis, born January 29, 1980.  Generation No. 4 10. Nichole Ann4 Yakstis (William3, William2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~   in  Missouri. She met ~ Still Living ~   , son of ~ Still Living ~   and ~ Still Living ~  . He was born ~ Still Living ~  in Saint Louis, Missouri. Child of Nichole Yakstis and ~ Still Living ~  is: 21 i. Madison Ann5 Yakstis ~ Still Living ~    15. Beverly4 Blackey (Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, William1) She married J.R. Sottung . Children of Beverly Blackey and J.R. Sottung are: + 22 i. Christa5 Sottung. 23 ii. Tony Sottung.   16. Craig4 Blackey (Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, William1) He married Cathleen Unknown . Children of Craig Blackey and Cathleen Unknown are: 24 i. Christopher5 Blackey. 25 ii. Sara Blackey.   18. Dawn4 Renee (Donald Lee3 Yakstis, Andy2, William1) She married Herbert Hadley Frohock March 03, 1993, son of Herb Frohock. Children of Dawn Renee and Herbert Frohock are: 26 i. Herbert5 Hadley, <FONT COLOR="#87000f" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANS~ Still Living ~  . 27 ii. Hunter Lee, ~ Still Living ~    19. Michelle4 Christine (Donald Lee3 Yakstis, Andy2, William1) She married David Wayne Jones September 21, 1991 in Cottage Hills, IL.. Child of Michelle Christine and David Jones is: 28 i. Danielle5 Christine,~ Still Living ~   Generation No. 5 22. Christa5 Sottung (Beverly4 Blackey, Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, William1) She married Unknown Shinault . Children of Christa Sottung and Unknown Shinault are: 29 i. Jerry6 Shinault. 30 ii. Chuckie Shinault. 

Hi Pam... these are my relations... I think it's even taken from my website... Nichole PALMEEM@aol.com wrote: >Last Updated: > >November 2003 > > Descendants of William Yakstis > > > > > >Generation No. 1 > > > >1. William1 Yakstis was born Abt. 1875 in Lithuania, and died March 1955 in >Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. He married Mary Bates . She was born August 15, >1881 in Lithuania, and died October 10, 1957 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > > > > >>More About William Yakstis: >> >> >> >> >>>>Burial: March 31, 1955, Bethalo City Cemetery, Madison, Illinois >>>> >>>> >>>Census: April 16, 1910, Farmington Township, Fulton, Illinois >>> >>>Funeral Home: Smith Funeral Home, Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >>> >>>Immigration: 1895, Port of entry unknown >>> >>>Nationality: Lithuanian >>> >>>Naturalization: 1905, Illinois or Pennsylvania >>> >>>Occupation: Coal Miner - Machinist >>> >>> >>> >>> >>More About Mary Bates: >> >> >>>Burial: Bethalo City Cemetery, Madison, Illinois >>>Immigration: 1897, Possibly 1900 - Port of entry unknown >>>Naturalization: 1905, Illinois or Pennsylvania >>> >>> > > >Children of William Yakstis and Mary Bates are: >+ 2 i. William2 Yakstis, born January 13, 1904 in Scranton, Pennsylvania; >died February 05, 1969 in East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois. >+ 3 ii. Andy Yakstis, born September 12, 1899 in Export, Pennsylvania; died >May 1976 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > Generation No. 2 >2. William2 Yakstis (William1) was born January 13, 1904 in Scranton, >Pennsylvania, and died February 05, 1969 in East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois. >He married (1) Ruth Voss July 28, 1928 in East Saint Louis, Madison, Illinois. >She was born Unknown. He married (2) Casimira Dagis , daughter of Jonas Dagys >and Emilija Slapelis. She was born ~ Still Living ~ in Illinois. > > >>More About William Yakstis: >> >> >>>Burial: Mt. Carmel Cemetery, East Saint Louis, Saint Clair, Illinois >>>Graduation: April 26, 1919, Maryville Elementary School >>>Occupation: Coal Miner - Trapper >>>Social Security Number: 489-07-0422 >>> >>> >>More About Casimira Dagis: >> >> >>>~ Still Living ~ >>> >>> > > >Child of William Yakstis and Ruth Voss is: >+ 7 i. Patsy Ruth3 Voss, born Abt. 1931; died September 17, 2003. >Children of William Yakstis and Casimira Dagis are: >+ 4 i. William3 Yakstis, born ~ Still Living ~ in Illinois. >+ 5 ii. Michael William Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~ in Illinois. >6 iii. Mary Louise Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~ > >3. Andy2 Yakstis (William1) was born September 12, 1899 in Export, >Pennsylvania, and died May 1976 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. He married Alvina >Johnson in Illinois. She was born November 01, 1908, and died January 1982 in >Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > > >>More About Andy Yakstis: >> >> >>>Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >>>Occupation: Miner >>>Social Security Number: 344-03-9686 >>> >>> >>More About Alvina Johnson: >> >> >>>Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >>>Social Security Number: 351-22-5937 >>> >>> > > >Children of Andy Yakstis and Alvina Johnson are: >+ 8 i. Andy3 Yakstis,~ Still Living ~ >+ 9 ii. Donald Lee Yakstis, born November 10, 1934 in Bethalto, Madison, >Illinois; died December 02, 1987 in Bethalto, Madison, Illinois. > Generation No. 3 >4. William3 Yakstis (William2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~ , >Illinois. He married Carol Ann Walz March 10, 1975 in Saint Louis, Missouri, daughter >of Albert Walz and Betty Pursey. She was born ~ Still Living ~ in, Missouri. > >Children of William Yakstis and Carol Walz are: >+ 10 i. Nichole Ann4 Yakstis~ Still Living ~ >11 ii. Natalie Annette Yakstis~ Still Living ~ >12 iii. Victoria Elizabeth Yakstis~ Still Living ~ > >5. Michael William3 Yakstis (William2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~ >in Illinois. He married Johnnie Lou Johnson . She was born ~ Still Living ~ >. > >Children of Michael Yakstis and Johnnie Johnson are: >13 i. Michael4 Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~ >14 ii. Loriane Catherine Yakstis, ~ Still Living ~ > >7. Patsy Ruth3 Voss (William2 Yakstis, William1) was born Abt. 1931, and died >September 17, 2003. She married Charles T. Blackey ~ Still Living ~ . > >Children of Patsy Voss and Charles Blackey are: >+ 15 i. Beverly4 Blackey.~ Still Living ~ >+ 16 ii. Craig Blackey.~ Still Living ~ > >8. Andy3 Yakstis (Andy2, William1) was born ~ Still Living ~ He Married >Unknown. > >Child of Andy Yakstis is: >17 i. Heath4. ~ Still Living ~ > >9. Donald Lee3 Yakstis (Andy2, William1) was born November 10, 1934 in >Bethalto, Madison, Illinois, and died December 02, 1987 in Bethalto, Madison, >Illinois. He married (1) Bonnie Irwin , daughter of Carl Irwin and Doris Unknown. >She died January 27, 2003. He married (2) Marietta Butler Wilkinson April 1975, >daughter of Elmer Butler and Ethel Engieman. She was born January 12, 1941 in >Elco, Illinois, and died June 08, 2003 in Sea Grove Beach, Florida. > > >>More About Donald Lee Yakstis: >> >> >>>Burial: Bethalto, Madison, Illinois >>> >>> >>More About Marietta Butler Wilkinson: >> >> >>>Burial: June 13, 2003, Cape County Memorial Park in Cape Girardeau >>>Cause of Death: She drowned in the ocean off of Destin, FL. >>> >>> > > >Children of Donald Yakstis and Bonnie Irwin are: >+ 18 i. Dawn4 Renee. >+ 19 ii. Michelle Christine. > >Child of Donald Yakstis and Marietta Wilkinson is: >20 i. Donald Lee4 Yakstis, born January 29, 1980. > Generation No. 4 >10. Nichole Ann4 Yakstis (William3, William2, William1) was born ~ Still >Living ~ in Missouri. She met ~ Still Living ~ , son of ~ Still Living ~ > and ~ Still Living ~ . He was born ~ Still Living ~ in Saint Louis, Missouri. > >Child of Nichole Yakstis and ~ Still Living ~ is: >21 i. Madison Ann5 Yakstis ~ Still Living ~ > >15. Beverly4 Blackey (Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, William1) She >married J.R. Sottung . > >Children of Beverly Blackey and J.R. Sottung are: >+ 22 i. Christa5 Sottung. >23 ii. Tony Sottung. > >16. Craig4 Blackey (Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, William1) He married >Cathleen Unknown . > >Children of Craig Blackey and Cathleen Unknown are: >24 i. Christopher5 Blackey. >25 ii. Sara Blackey. > >18. Dawn4 Renee (Donald Lee3 Yakstis, Andy2, William1) She married Herbert >Hadley Frohock March 03, 1993, son of Herb Frohock. > >Children of Dawn Renee and Herbert Frohock are: >26 i. Herbert5 Hadley, <FONT COLOR="#87000f" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANS~ Still Living ~ . >27 ii. Hunter Lee, ~ Still Living ~ > >19. Michelle4 Christine (Donald Lee3 Yakstis, Andy2, William1) She married >David Wayne Jones September 21, 1991 in Cottage Hills, IL.. > >Child of Michelle Christine and David Jones is: >28 i. Danielle5 Christine,~ Still Living ~ > Generation No. 5 >22. Christa5 Sottung (Beverly4 Blackey, Patsy Ruth3 Voss, William2 Yakstis, >William1) She married Unknown Shinault . > >Children of Christa Sottung and Unknown Shinault are: >29 i. Jerry6 Shinault. >30 ii. Chuckie Shinault. > > > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. >http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ >and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm > > >

Kent, John Schrader's wife, Anna, died one month prior to his death, Anna died April 1942, and John died May 1942. Anna died at the residence of her daughter, Doris Schuermeyer; and the city directories for St. Louis confirm that this was Doris' address. Doris signed John's death certificate. Laura Schrader (Baumann) owned the plots where she and John are interred, plus her mother and sisters are interred there also. Laura signed her mother's death certificate as Laura Schrader. I have John Schrader's death certificate, but none for Anna. The funeral director is now out of business. Sunset Memorial Park says that Laura Schrader made all of John Schrader's arrangements. Your suggestion of animosity between Doris and Laura could be significant. As the daughter, she would sign the certificate for her father, but not want to handle any of the arrangements, thus leaving it to Laura. I have one more option which I have to consider. I found a Charles G. Schuermeyer who died in California in 1982 and there appears to be a listing for a Charles Schuermeyer in that area - so a telephone call is a possibility. I've got to approach this with kid gloves. Am still stumped on this one. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > Laura > > It was not to long, confusing yes! > > Is it possible that Laura & John marriage was the second for both? > That John first married Anna and that she passed away between 1930 and > John's death 1942. or divorced? > John then married Laura. > John bought a second set of plots so he could be buried next to Laura. > For Laura's mother obit to work her first marriage would have to be to > another SCHRADER. > Laura's first husband could have died between 1924-1930. > Laura then moved back in with her step dad. > Which could have confused the census taker. > > Remember obits are written by people that just lost a loved one. Often have > mistakes. Doris as a step daughter to Laura might not have like her Laura. > > Have you check for old City Directories? > Does the cemetery have records when the plots were bought? > Cemetery records might list the Funeral Home. Funeral Home records might > shed some light > Have you ordered all the Death Certs? > > Love a Mystery BUT wow! > > Kent > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > > > > Kent, > > > > This is truly an odd situation. Laura's mother died in 1929 and in her > > obituary she named Laura SCHRADER. However, in the 1930 census Laura is > > living with her stepfather, and her stepsister. I have found her husband? > > John married to an Anna Schrader (Romag) in the 1920 and 1930 census. > > Here's another odd bit; Laura Schrader is interred at Sunset Memorial Park > > and next to her is John Schrader. John's supposed wife, Anna, is also > > interred at Sunset Memorial Park, but in a different section and John > > Schrader owned that grave! John died in May 1942 - obituary states > > widower of Anna - his daughter, Doris signed his death certificate. > Laura's > > obituary in 1972 states widow of the late John Schrader. > > In the April 1930 census, Laura was listed as the wife of George > Remshardt, > > but again, this is an error as he was her stepfather, and it also says > that > > she was married at the age of 25 which would have been approximately 1924; > > Laura was born October 1898. > > Again, thanks for your help - hope this wasn't too long an explanation of > > this mystery. > > > > Laura > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. >

Sheryl, Sometimes those little mistakes made by family on documents such as census, death certificate, etc. can prove to be a blessing instead of a curse. I've been researching my g, g, grandfather. Family lore, later verified by his civil war pension records, was that he had been in both the confederate and then the union army. I found a record of someone from LA who was injured in the exact battle where my ancestor was injured (Perryville, KY) I also found an obvious misspelling of his name on the passenger and immigration list for N.O. I still felt that need for a little additional validation that would connect him to LA. In a census about 20 years after he died, his son stated on the census record that his father was born in LA. I think that is a pretty good validation. My ancestor was born in Ireland and immigrated to this county. After swearing the oath of allegiance to the U.S., he next fled to Madison County where he later joined the union army. So, I've learned not to get irritated about errors and red herring information. Sometimes it really does lead somewhere. Good luck in your searching. Maryjane - Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness www.raogk.org At 11:50 PM 8/9/2004, you wrote: >Maryjane, > >Thank you for forwarding the 1860 & 1880 Census information. The 1880 >Census is definitely my husband's family ad I already had a copy of that >and most likely the 1860 one is as well. THere was only one marriage and >Michael's age (at 28) would be 10 yrs. off. He would have been 38. All >the names are right, although the daughter "June" was a complete surprise >to me. The granddaughter, "Anna Sithen" on the 1880 census is my >husband's grandmother who was orphaned at 2 & raised by the grandparents & >one of the aunts. > >Interestingly, I cannot pull the 1860 Census up on Ancestry.com. It looks >like you used familysearch.org. > >Anyway, you are correct that it shows daughter Mary "Furgerson's" (should >be Ferguson) birthplace as LA, which makes much more sense. I had this >Census and then later obtained a copy of her obituary, which stated she >was born in Edwardsville, IL and you know how we are when we see >conflicting information. I thought, well, there must be some other rock to >turn over here as she had several adult living children when she died and >you would just kind of think they would know where "Mom" was born! LA >definitely makes the most sense as other early children of this marriage >were born in LA before they moved to Galveston where the younger children >were born. > >I thank you for your time. It's very possible there are no links to IL. > >Sheryl McNally

Name: Laura Schrader SSN: 488-30-7002 Last Residence: 63147 Saint Louis, Saint Louis City, Missouri, United States of America Born: 2 Oct 1898 Died: Aug 1972 State (Year) SSN issued: Missouri (Before 1951 ) This from SSDI, her SS-5 may tell you her marital status when she applied. Ancestry.com does not have St. Louis's papers so no wedding announcements found online. I do not know if you could find them on micro film or not. but finding the marriage would be a needle in the hay stack! Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > Kent, > > This is truly an odd situation. Laura's mother died in 1929 and in her > obituary she named Laura SCHRADER. However, in the 1930 census Laura is > living with her stepfather, and her stepsister. I have found her husband? > John married to an Anna Schrader (Romag) in the 1920 and 1930 census. > Here's another odd bit; Laura Schrader is interred at Sunset Memorial Park > and next to her is John Schrader. John's supposed wife, Anna, is also > interred at Sunset Memorial Park, but in a different section and John > Schrader owned that grave! John died in May 1942 - obituary states > widower of Anna - his daughter, Doris signed his death certificate. Laura's > obituary in 1972 states widow of the late John Schrader. > In the April 1930 census, Laura was listed as the wife of George Remshardt, > but again, this is an error as he was her stepfather, and it also says that > she was married at the age of 25 which would have been approximately 1924; > Laura was born October 1898. > Again, thanks for your help - hope this wasn't too long an explanation of > this mystery. > > Laura > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:52 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > > > > How old were they in the 1930 census, if you can find them in the 1930 > > census, it will list age at first marriage (for both). > > That would at least give you the year. > > > > Kent > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> > > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > Thanks for the information. Both of these people were residents in St. > > > Louis and there is no record of their marriage. I thought perhaps they > > had > > > gone to Illinois to get married as had several other relatives. > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to > ILMADISO as a separate email. > > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single > large message. > > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. > >

Laura It was not to long, confusing yes! Is it possible that Laura & John marriage was the second for both? That John first married Anna and that she passed away between 1930 and John's death 1942. or divorced? John then married Laura. John bought a second set of plots so he could be buried next to Laura. For Laura's mother obit to work her first marriage would have to be to another SCHRADER. Laura's first husband could have died between 1924-1930. Laura then moved back in with her step dad. Which could have confused the census taker. Remember obits are written by people that just lost a loved one. Often have mistakes. Doris as a step daughter to Laura might not have like her Laura. Have you check for old City Directories? Does the cemetery have records when the plots were bought? Cemetery records might list the Funeral Home. Funeral Home records might shed some light Have you ordered all the Death Certs? Love a Mystery BUT wow! Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > Kent, > > This is truly an odd situation. Laura's mother died in 1929 and in her > obituary she named Laura SCHRADER. However, in the 1930 census Laura is > living with her stepfather, and her stepsister. I have found her husband? > John married to an Anna Schrader (Romag) in the 1920 and 1930 census. > Here's another odd bit; Laura Schrader is interred at Sunset Memorial Park > and next to her is John Schrader. John's supposed wife, Anna, is also > interred at Sunset Memorial Park, but in a different section and John > Schrader owned that grave! John died in May 1942 - obituary states > widower of Anna - his daughter, Doris signed his death certificate. Laura's > obituary in 1972 states widow of the late John Schrader. > In the April 1930 census, Laura was listed as the wife of George Remshardt, > but again, this is an error as he was her stepfather, and it also says that > she was married at the age of 25 which would have been approximately 1924; > Laura was born October 1898. > Again, thanks for your help - hope this wasn't too long an explanation of > this mystery. > > Laura

Good morning all. I am looking for the last obituaries of the Everts children and spouses of Peter and Anna Schulz Everts Peter Everts Jr died January 19, 1916 in New Douglas his wife, Bernardina Voss Everts died May 6, 1947 in Bond County. (Greenville county seat) And Etta (Henriette) Hambrock Everts died on February 3, 1960 (living in New Douglas but place of death unknown, probably nursing home). and Minnie Everts Mansholt died February 3, 1945, New Douglas and husband Harry Mansholt died June 18, 1928 New Douglas. I have no computer and find it most difficult finding obituaries. Everything else seems to be much more simple to locate. It is a lot to ask of you, but I would like to complete my genealogical journal before my tenure on earth. Rev. Dewey Leon Everts Jr.

How old were they in the 1930 census, if you can find them in the 1930 census, it will list age at first marriage (for both). That would at least give you the year. Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > Kent > > Thanks for the information. Both of these people were residents in St. > Louis and there is no record of their marriage. I thought perhaps they had > gone to Illinois to get married as had several other relatives. > > Laura

I'm having similar problems! My grandfgather was married to a woman before he married my grandmother. They were divorced in 1937.... I can not even find him in the 1930 census.... I've looked in surround counties including St. Louis. What a pain! I have found his father, William Yakstis but the son, William (Bill) Yakstis has yet to be found.. nor his wife; Ruth Voss. He's from Madison County but moved to St. Clair County after he met my grandmother.... I even checked there! Ugh... How frustrating! Nichole -- Researching: Bates <http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy/bates>, Yakstis <yakstis/index.htm>, Jakstys <http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy/jakstys>, Slapelis <http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy/slapelis>, Vilaniskis <http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy/vilaniskis>, Dagys <dagys/index.htm> and Motiejunas <http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy/motiejun> For more information please visit http://www.yakstis.net/genealogy laura30@cox.net wrote: >Kent > >Thanks for the information. Both of these people were residents in St. >Louis and there is no record of their marriage. I thought perhaps they had >gone to Illinois to get married as had several other relatives. > >Laura >

Kent, This is truly an odd situation. Laura's mother died in 1929 and in her obituary she named Laura SCHRADER. However, in the 1930 census Laura is living with her stepfather, and her stepsister. I have found her husband? John married to an Anna Schrader (Romag) in the 1920 and 1930 census. Here's another odd bit; Laura Schrader is interred at Sunset Memorial Park and next to her is John Schrader. John's supposed wife, Anna, is also interred at Sunset Memorial Park, but in a different section and John Schrader owned that grave! John died in May 1942 - obituary states widower of Anna - his daughter, Doris signed his death certificate. Laura's obituary in 1972 states widow of the late John Schrader. In the April 1930 census, Laura was listed as the wife of George Remshardt, but again, this is an error as he was her stepfather, and it also says that she was married at the age of 25 which would have been approximately 1924; Laura was born October 1898. Again, thanks for your help - hope this wasn't too long an explanation of this mystery. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > How old were they in the 1930 census, if you can find them in the 1930 > census, it will list age at first marriage (for both). > That would at least give you the year. > > Kent > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > > > > Kent > > > > Thanks for the information. Both of these people were residents in St. > > Louis and there is no record of their marriage. I thought perhaps they > had > > gone to Illinois to get married as had several other relatives. > > > > Laura > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. > >

Kent Thanks for the information. Both of these people were residents in St. Louis and there is no record of their marriage. I thought perhaps they had gone to Illinois to get married as had several other relatives. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > Laura > > Write the County Clerks Office in Edwardsville, IL. Give them what info you > have, they will want a copy of your ID (driver's license), relationship to > the couple and $9.00. > > Madison County Administration Building > 157 North Main Street > Suite 109 > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > > Kent > Northern IL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:00 PM > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > > > > I need assistance in locating a marriage between John SCHRADER and Laura > BAUMANN between 1924 and 1930. Any help or suggestions appreciated. > > > > Laura - California > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > >

Good evening!!! Wow.. you kids really sent them in this last week!!! I must have added about 200 names... at least it seemed like it.. hehehe But they are up online... Enjoy... Happy Hunting!! Lorraine CC Madison Co., ILGenWeb

Laura Write the County Clerks Office in Edwardsville, IL. Give them what info you have, they will want a copy of your ID (driver's license), relationship to the couple and $9.00. Madison County Administration Building 157 North Main Street Suite 109 Edwardsville, IL 62025 Kent Northern IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Edgar" <laura30@cox.net> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Marriages Madison County > I need assistance in locating a marriage between John SCHRADER and Laura BAUMANN between 1924 and 1930. Any help or suggestions appreciated. > > Laura - California > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > >

I need assistance in locating a marriage between John SCHRADER and Laura BAUMANN between 1924 and 1930. Any help or suggestions appreciated. Laura - California

This is not from me.... this is just a notice about something that was sent to me!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- The Sharp Families In America Assoc. is having its yearly genealogical workshop/reunion this coming weekend, Sat Aug. 14 & Sun Aug 15, in Carlinville, at the county Farm Bureau building. The URL for details is - <http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~sharpfamilies/2004reunion.htm>http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~sharpfamilies/2004reunion.htm Was wondering if you could put it on your page for us, would appreciate it. Many thanks, Stan (Member, Board of Directors - Sharp Families In America Assoc.)

Please add the following surnames to your list: REYNOLDS, GOODMAN, VAN DYKE, WIRIGHT

I would like to add these to the surname lists if not too late. Davis, Ezekiel--family Sutton, Susan Whitfield, Thomas Also, could anyone tell me how to get to the OMPH GHANT Burying Ground in Madison County, IL.? Thanks, Sharon [Davis] Sherman calico@ctitech.com