Could could do a lookup at the Hainer Library in Alton, Illinois the should have newspaper articles in the paper. If I get a chance to go down there I will check for you. If not there the Granite City Newspapers. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lebraatt@aol.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Investigating a homicide in Alton, IL in 1921 > Can anyone out there give me any advice on where to start researching a murder that occurred in 1921? I recently received my g-grandfather's death certificate and it indicated that his death was a homicide. I am interested in learning more about the circumstances surrounding his death. > His name was John Kaiser, his wife was Maggie Kaiser, the date of death was April 3, 1921. The certificate is signed by an Edward Mercer of Granite City, Ill and John was buried in New Methodist on April 7, 1921. The undertaker is listed as a JE Mercer Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I am stationed overseas and have only internet to do research/communicate. > > Thank you for your assistance > > > -- > Le'Royce > > "Not what we gain, but what we give > measures the worth of the life we live" > -Mrs. Zelma Thompson > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm >

The Milton part of Alton was part of Wood RIver township. At some point in the late 50' or early 60's it was annexed into the city of Alton. By that time, Upper Alton had long been officially part of Alton city. There was an area referred to as Upper Alton, where the businesses were. I guess the boundaries were pretty fuzzy and in the mind of the beholder, but we always referred to the area off Milton Road as the Milton area, and the business area off Brown and Main/Washington as Upper Alton. It may be that everything west of Milton Rd, which would include Fernwood, was already part of the city, and everything on the other side was still unannexed when my parents bought their house. On Monday, December 27, 2004, at 03:00 AM, ILMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> > Date: Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:46:00 PM US/Central > To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Stating location of place of death > > > My GG-grandfather death certificate list his "Place of Death" as 3304 > Fernwood Ave, Wood River, IL. > As a kid this house was still in the family. Across the street from > the old Milton school. In what I always refered to as Upper Alton. I > checked there is NO Fernwood Ave in Wood River, IL > Was this area once considerd Wood River? > Why would they list it as Wood River? > > In my FTM file, if I list the palce of Death as alton ,shold I put a > note in saying the Death Cert states Wood River but it should have > been Alton? > > Thanks Kent

I would certainly put all that info in your notes, just to make sure it doesn't get lost. The answer may depend on the date you're talking about. I have a vague memory of someone on this list talking about the time period when the various towns of Alton, Upper Alton, and Wood River changed boundaries. Upper Alton may have been or may still be a neighborhood, not a distinct town. But neighborhoods are important to identifying where a location is. And an address may have been in Wood River at one time and in Upper Alton at another and in Alton at yet another. You may want to check back in the Archives to see if you can find old messages from someone who lives there and can help you out more than I can! Looking at current maps in my Rand McNally Atlas, and the church directory of a Wood River church from the early 1990s, I don't think Upper Alton currently exists as a legal entity now. But I know it once did. Doris Waggoner Seattle -- "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> wrote: My GG-grandfather death certificate list his "Place of Death" as 3304 Fernwood Ave, Wood River, IL. As a kid this house was still in the family. Across the street from the old Milton school. In what I always refered to as Upper Alton. I checked there is NO Fernwood Ave in Wood River, IL Was this area once considerd Wood River? Why would they list it as Wood River? In my FTM file, if I list the palce of Death as alton ,shold I put a note in saying the Death Cert states Wood River but it should have been Alton? Thanks Kent ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. http://www.cyndislist.com/

Kent, I believe at one time that area was in Wood River Township. When I get down to the museum, I will see if I can clear that up. Judy Shields ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Stating location of place of death > My GG-grandfather death certificate list his "Place of Death" as 3304 Fernwood Ave, Wood River, IL. > As a kid this house was still in the family. Across the street from the old Milton school. In what I always refered to as Upper Alton. I checked there is NO Fernwood Ave in Wood River, IL > Was this area once considerd Wood River? > Why would they list it as Wood River? > > In my FTM file, if I list the palce of Death as alton ,shold I put a note in saying the Death Cert states Wood River but it should have been Alton? > > Thanks Kent > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

Dorris Thanks for the reply,, After your reply I checked the 1930 Census, it list him in Wood River Township. That part of Alton is in Wood River Township. If I use a magnifying glass after Wood River, in very small print four choices, Village, City, Township, or Road District. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <doriswaggoner@juno.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Stating location of place of death > > I would certainly put all that info in your notes, just to make sure it doesn't get lost. The answer may depend on the date you're talking about. I have a vague memory of someone on this list talking about the time period when the various towns of Alton, Upper Alton, and Wood River changed boundaries. Upper Alton may have been or may still be a neighborhood, not a distinct town. But neighborhoods are important to identifying where a location is. And an address may have been in Wood River at one time and in Upper Alton at another and in Alton at yet another. You may want to check back in the Archives to see if you can find old messages from someone who lives there and can help you out more than I can! Looking at current maps in my Rand McNally Atlas, and the church directory of a Wood River church from the early 1990s, I don't think Upper Alton currently exists as a legal entity now. But I know it once did. > > Doris Waggoner > Seattle > > -- "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> wrote: > My GG-grandfather death certificate list his "Place of Death" as 3304 Fernwood Ave, Wood River, IL. > As a kid this house was still in the family. Across the street from the old Milton school. In what I always refered to as Upper Alton. I checked there is NO Fernwood Ave in Wood River, IL > Was this area once considerd Wood River? > Why would they list it as Wood River? > > In my FTM file, if I list the palce of Death as alton ,shold I put a note in saying the Death Cert states Wood River but it should have been Alton? > > Thanks Kent > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > >

My GG-grandfather death certificate list his "Place of Death" as 3304 Fernwood Ave, Wood River, IL. As a kid this house was still in the family. Across the street from the old Milton school. In what I always refered to as Upper Alton. I checked there is NO Fernwood Ave in Wood River, IL Was this area once considerd Wood River? Why would they list it as Wood River? In my FTM file, if I list the palce of Death as alton ,shold I put a note in saying the Death Cert states Wood River but it should have been Alton? Thanks Kent

I found my great-grandfather, Raphael Berkhart (it's really Burkhart) listed in the book "Naturalization & Intentions of Madison County, Illinois - An Index 1816-1900." I don't think the fees listed in the book are correct anymore. Can someone tell me the cost for a copy of a naturalization from the County Clerk's Office in Edwardsville? Also, will they accept a check or do I have to send a money order? Marilyn Lane

There's a short funeral notice in the online version of the November 19 Alton Telegraph: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13397551&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=8 Edith Haneline JERSEYVILLE 11/19/2004 Edith Mae Haneline, 94, died at 7:25 p.m. Monday, Nov. 15, 2004, at Greenwood Manor. Visitation: 11 a.m. until services at 1 p.m. Monday at Alexander and Gubser Funeral Home in Jerseyville. At 10:30 PM 11/18/2004, Ray <rb7us@yahoo.com> wrote: >Hello, > >Could someone please check for my aunt's obit? I just learned today that >she died this week, funeral will be Monday and due to distance I'm unable >to attend.. >Her name: EDITH M.HANELINE, 95 yrs >died this week, November 15, 16, or 17, 2004 in Jerseyville Illinois..[is >where she lived].. > >regards, > >Ray > >Houston, Tx.

Thank you John........ Ray.. "John M. Scroggins" <scroggjm@erols.com> wrote: There's a short funeral notice in the online version of the November 19 Alton Telegraph: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13397551&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=8 Edith Haneline JERSEYVILLE 11/19/2004 Edith Mae Haneline, 94, died at 7:25 p.m. Monday, Nov. 15, 2004, at Greenwood Manor. Visitation: 11 a.m. until services at 1 p.m. Monday at Alexander and Gubser Funeral Home in Jerseyville. At 10:30 PM 11/18/2004, Ray wrote: >Hello, > >Could someone please check for my aunt's obit? I just learned today that >she died this week, funeral will be Monday and due to distance I'm unable >to attend.. >Her name: EDITH M.HANELINE, 95 yrs >died this week, November 15, 16, or 17, 2004 in Jerseyville Illinois..[is >where she lived].. > >regards, > >Ray > >Houston, Tx. ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!

Dear Marlena, I volunteer for several counties around here. Send me your questions and I'll see if I can help. Donnell

I posted to this list a littler earlier today asking if anyone on the list could get 4 obits from the library for me. Without thinking, I forgot to mention that I needed them from the Collinsville Library in Madison County. Sorry. If some could help me, I will be happy to pay for any cost involved and your assistance will be much appreciated. Jane in Florida

What part of Madison county do you live in. I am doing research in mostly Marine and some of the small towns in vicinity. If you are near there I have some questions about a few cemeteries in the area as well as finding which churches my family may have attended so I can contact them for some parish records. They appear to have been Catholic. Let me know, THanks Marlena

Hello, Could someone please check for my aunt's obit? I just learned today that she died this week, funeral will be Monday and due to distance I'm unable to attend.. Her name: EDITH M.HANELINE, 95 yrs died this week, November 15, 16, or 17, 2004 in Jerseyville Illinois..[is where she lived].. regards, Ray Houston, Tx. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free!

Hi Jane - I do a lot of obits research using the IL Newspaper Project holdings of the (institution formerly known as the IL State Historical Library - - now known as the) new Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library (and Museum... but the Museum won't be open until late Spring 2005). This link shown below (also posted on my website of www.mollx.com) http://web.library.uiuc.edu/asp/inp/mergeddatabase/search_form.asp - Takes you to the search engine screen of the searchable database of the IL Newspaper Project holdings - - it's a great tool, and gives you the info as to where the appropriate newspapers might be held - AND their date-spans of publication! If any results list the IL State Historical Library - (now the A. Lincoln Presidential Library) = you could either contact them for an obit search (I think it's free for IL-state residents; $10 for non-IL-residents..??) - OR someone in this area (like me?) - could do the obits research for you. My fees are on my website, if that would be of any help): molly Molly Kennedy P O Box 5785 Springfield, IL 62705 www.mollx.com Genealogy - Confusing the dead, and annoying the living.

Is there anyone on this list who would be willing to go to the library and get 4 obits for me. I am willing to pay for any cost involved. Any assistance will be much appreciated. Jane in Florida

Jane Westerkamm Donato, Madison Co., Ill. has quite a few libraries. You would need to be more specific as to which community you are looking for. I will be glad to help if it is in an area where I research. You can contact me off line if you want. James (James Turner Harris)' chinahilltop@charter.net

I want to thank all of you who have gone out of your way to help me in my search for my Schiele ancestors from St. Jacob. I have learned so much, it has been just great. All my family also send their thanks for all the help. My search continues of course, does it ever end? But I have acheived so much with all your help. Marie Coury

I personally don't have any relations in Madison county. I do help others who are looking for info from this area as I have time since I do live here. This is to repay all the wonderful people who have helped me in my research on my family in Ohio. Ellie

Vickie I saw your post to Ellie. I am related to Abel Moore if I can be of any help. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: spunky7478@charter.net [mailto:spunky7478@charter.net] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:28 AM To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Obit Abel Moore & Mary Moore What lineage are you working on?? Are you related to the Moore Family?? I am working on a project for the Wood River Heritage Council. I am collecting information on the early pioneer families of Wood River Township. Any help would be great. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: <PALMEEM@aol.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Obit Abel Moore & Mary Moore > You are welcome. If I can help further, I live just 10 miles from Wood > River. I own several properties there so am there fairly often. Ellie > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

Can anyone tell me the location of Woods Cemetery near Troy? Linda Peters Greeley, CO