The exact location - algon the Bivens Road on the way to Dorsey. There is nothing there today! The house and barns that were there thru my youth were torn down and it is all farm ground now. It would be located at the southwest corner of Bivens & Renken Road, and would be apaproximately 1/4 mile south and 1/2 mile west of the intersection. Barbara

Karen, Most of the people buried there were of the Dorsey family. However, their were a few Yeager/Yagers buried there. The Dorsey family moved the tombstones to the Moro Cemetery. Some of the Yeagers buried there have a stone in the Moro Cemetery too. Who are you looking for? Barbara Hitch Edwardsville, IL

I find a "Sweet Creek" on a very old map of Madison County in Omnighent Twp. It isn't shown in my very detailed 1991 Illinois Atlas & Gazetteer. Anyone know anything about Sweet Creek? Could it have been named for a family named Sweet that lived in the area around 1850? Karen

Okay, all that helps. I'm looking for several Sweets. I know that Lafayette Sweet's wife's first husband John Moore was buried at Locust Grove in the summer of 1851. Because of the family connection and the location I wondered if that's why I'm not finding Silas Sweet, Mercy Sweet, or Maria Sweet. I suspect their graves must not have been marked and so far I haven't been able to find any death records or probate. Lafayette's wife was a Cooper and the Coopers are buried at Cooper-Sanner but their records are pretty good and no Sweets. I "think" the Sweets were always along the Macoupin/Madison County line in Moro so not real close to Locust Grove. I'm also looking for a William Smith who is my direct ancestor who married Eliza Sweet. She later married Obadiah Mize but I don't find her at Hand-Mize so William Smith and Eliza Mize are missing also. There might be a Mary Sweet Stewart with these folks also. I know it's a shot in the dark but I sure appreciate the info I've received so far. All of these would be in the 1850s and 1860s I think except Silas Sweet who was between 1845 and 1850. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <Racerbarb@aol.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Locust Grove Cemetery > Karen, > > Most of the people buried there were of the Dorsey family. However, their > were a few Yeager/Yagers buried there. > > The Dorsey family moved the tombstones to the Moro Cemetery. Some of the > Yeagers buried there have a stone in the Moro Cemetery too. > > Who are you looking for? > > Barbara Hitch > Edwardsville, IL > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > >

Does anyone have a record for old Locust Grove Cemetery which was in Moro Township or any information about who was buried there? Even the exact location would help. I know it no longer exists but was hoping someone found the cemetery records. Karen

--WebTV-Mail-12317-1062 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Karen, It is in a series or in a book by the Madison County Genealogical Society. Put Moro Township cemery list Illinois in your search. It will be in there. It says it is in volume 4. Rev. Dewey Leon Everts Jr Santa Barbara Calif --WebTV-Mail-12317-1062 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.170) by storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:50:49 -0800 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id CBD29E104 for <Evertshistory@webtv.net>; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j1BMlqJJ024446; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:47:52 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:47:52 -0700 X-Original-Sender: gtskjs@mvn.net Fri Feb 11 15:47:51 2005 Message-ID: <003b01c5108b$ba5ddfa0$3aa9e842@DFHK9921> From: "Karen" <gtskjs@mvn.net> Old-To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:47:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALHELO: (361b010f029c073b) X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [4000080e]. X-Declude-Sender: gtskjs@mvn.net [66.232.169.58] X-Declude-Spoolname: D361b010f029c073b.SMD X-Note: This email scanned for spam and viruses by Declude. X-ISP: Mount Vernon Net (mvn.net) X-Sender: 66.232.169.58 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Resent-Message-ID: <hxxrMD.A.t9F.YYTDCB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/6935 X-Loop: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ILMADISO-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Locust Grove Cemetery X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Does anyone have a record for old Locust Grove Cemetery which was in Moro Township or any information about who was buried there? Even the exact location would help. I know it no longer exists but was hoping someone found the cemetery records. Karen ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm --WebTV-Mail-12317-1062--

Thanks to those who responded to my question on the 1818/1820 state and federal censuses. I suspect that the entry on Ancestry.com for James Dabbs is in error. Judy, in Wisconsin

if someone has a CD or book of the Madison County marriage records, I would like someone to do a look up for me between George Nieson and Cora Frances Brannon Helbig m 1907 in Granite City , thanks!

Edwin G. Gerling 2418 Lake Shore Drive South Highland, Illinois 62249 618-654-7786 I don't have an e-mail for him though. Jim

Hello Does anyone have an e mail for Ed Gerling of Highland? Your forwarding of same would be appreciated Thank you Roland Bauer Collinsville (in Key West)

A transcription of the 1820 federal census of Madison County, Illinois is available at this site. http://ftp.us-census.org/pub/usgenweb/census/il/madison/1820/ . The census lists both free persons of color and slaves. There were few slaves in Madison County in 1820. The Genweb census project is an ongoing project with additional census from the various states and census added from time to time. Tom

There's an explanation of the 1818 State Census at accessgenealogy. They did have listings for free persons of color and another for slaves. I didn't find a James Dabbs in the Madison County listing. The 1820 Federal Census abstracts can be downloaded at Genealogy.com from their "How-to" section. The second page has the listings for free persons of color, etc. Do you have access to the actual census image? James Dabbs is shown to have 9 young boys, 2 young girls, one adult male, one adult female. The first 11 columns are for free whites, the 12th column is Foreigners not naturalized (nothing entered for James Dabbs) and the next column with the number "5" is for "People in Agriculture." It shows no persons of color, free or slave for James Dabbs. There was also an 1820 State Census but I've never seen any of it. Some info available at the Illinois Archives site. "Each county return includes name of county and for each household name of head of household and numbers of free white males twenty-one years of age and older, other white inhabitants, slaves and servants, and free Negroes and mulattoes. Returns are included for 18 or 19 counties existing at that time: (It then lists the counties, including Madison. Only Edwards is missing.) Sounds like the listing you have might be the 1820 State Census but that doesn't really make sense if the Federal Census doesn't match. Looks like to me they just messed up in the interpretation. One free white male and eleven free white individuals equals twelve PEOPLE and that does match the 1820 Federal census. I think someone messed up and added 12 free persons of color who didn't exist. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <judygriffin@tds.net> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] 1818, 1820 Madison Co. State Census > Hoping someone can help me with the 1818 and 1820 state (territorial) > censuses. Did they include "persons of color"? > > Here is what I found on Ancestry.com, but it is not clear if the entry came > from the 1818 or the 1820 state (territorial) census: > > The entry lists a James Dabbs as head of household with one free white male > over 21, eleven free white individuals and twelve free people of color. > > The 1820 Federal census lists James Dabbs, but no information on persons of > color. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks. > > Judy Griffin, Wisconsin > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: > ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. > >

Hoping someone can help me with the 1818 and 1820 state (territorial) censuses. Did they include "persons of color"? Here is what I found on Ancestry.com, but it is not clear if the entry came from the 1818 or the 1820 state (territorial) census: The entry lists a James Dabbs as head of household with one free white male over 21, eleven free white individuals and twelve free people of color. The 1820 Federal census lists James Dabbs, but no information on persons of color. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks. Judy Griffin, Wisconsin

I have found that many times the last names are badly mispelled. If you have acess to that census you can go through the township you think they might have been in. I find that even though you use the similar name search it never ever comes up with the mispellings that I have found for my family. Good luck. You might search the county with just first names plus birth states. Marie --- Karen <gtskjs@mvn.net> wrote: >> You all were so helpful with the Sweets, now here's >> another mystery. Eliza Sweet married William Smith April >> 4, 1849 in Madison County, Illinois. I can't find them >> in the 1850 census. Eliza's mother, Mercy Sweet, is in >> Omnighent Twp. Eliza's brothers Lafayette & Andrew are >> nearby in Macoupin County. Eliza was born about 1826 in >> Vermont and William Smith was born about 1799 in >> Massachusetts. The oldest child in the household in 1860 >> was born about 1853. Both William and Eliza had ties to >> Massachusetts, Eliza's two sisters had probably remained >> behind in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to >> Illinois after the rest of the family. Because of his >> age, William may have had children before he married >> Eliza. Any clues about where they could have been in >> 1850? Is some of the Madison County 1850 census damaged >> or missing? >> >> Karen >> >> >> ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >> Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois >> http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google+Search >> >> ===== ILMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote:

Isn't that about the time of the California Gold Rush? Gaylord K. Brooks --- Karen <gtskjs@mvn.net> wrote: > You all were so helpful with the Sweets, now here's > another mystery. Eliza Sweet married William Smith April > 4, 1849 in Madison County, Illinois. I can't find them > in the 1850 census. Eliza's mother, Mercy Sweet, is in > Omnighent Twp. Eliza's brothers Lafayette & Andrew are > nearby in Macoupin County. Eliza was born about 1826 in > Vermont and William Smith was born about 1799 in > Massachusetts. The oldest child in the household in 1860 > was born about 1853. Both William and Eliza had ties to > Massachusetts, Eliza's two sisters had probably remained > behind in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to > Illinois after the rest of the family. Because of his > age, William may have had children before he married > Eliza. Any clues about where they could have been in > 1850? Is some of the Madison County 1850 census damaged > or missing? > > Karen > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google+Search > > ===== FREE!!! Genealogy software. Use to collect family tree. Use it to download GedCom files or to share GedCom files with new cousins you meet on the internet. Goto LEGACY.COM. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com

--WebTV-Mail-10879-742 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Don't forget to look for Bill or Wm. I have found Elizabeths who were Bessie, Liza, Eliza, Beth, Lizzie and so on. And in looking for Margaret, I soon learned you better look for Peggy. and vice versa They could have moved back to Massachusetts. Did you check there? And if they were moving around, honeymooning, perhaps, the census missed them. Rev. Dewey Leon Everts Jr. And I don't know if the census for 1850 is damaged or missing, but I'll just betcha its' unreadable. Most all of them are. --WebTV-Mail-10879-742 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpinvite-3301.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.169) by storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:42:34 -0800 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by smtpinvite-3301.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id E49B8E104 for <Evertshistory@webtv.net>; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j150ZM8R016557; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: gtskjs@mvn.net Fri Feb 4 17:35:22 2005 Message-ID: <001501c50b1a$97d12ad0$f3a9e842@DFHK9921> From: "Karen" <gtskjs@mvn.net> Old-To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:35:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALHELO: (14cf2342019c0e8a) X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [4000080e]. X-Declude-Sender: gtskjs@mvn.net [66.232.169.243] X-Declude-Spoolname: D14cf2342019c0e8a.SMD X-Note: This email scanned for spam and viruses by Declude. X-ISP: Mount Vernon Net (mvn.net) X-Sender: 66.232.169.243 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Resent-Message-ID: <rdbfVC.A.dCE.KTBBCB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/6924 X-Loop: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ILMADISO-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMADISO-L] William Smith 1850 X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive You all were so helpful with the Sweets, now here's another mystery. Eliza Sweet married William Smith April 4, 1849 in Madison County, Illinois. I can't find them in the 1850 census. Eliza's mother, Mercy Sweet, is in Omnighent Twp. Eliza's brothers Lafayette & Andrew are nearby in Macoupin County. Eliza was born about 1826 in Vermont and William Smith was born about 1799 in Massachusetts. The oldest child in the household in 1860 was born about 1853. Both William and Eliza had ties to Massachusetts, Eliza's two sisters had probably remained behind in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to Illinois after the rest of the family. Because of his age, William may have had children before he married Eliza. Any clues about where they could have been in 1850? Is some of the Madison County 1850 census damaged or missing? Karen ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google+Search --WebTV-Mail-10879-742--

You all were so helpful with the Sweets, now here's another mystery. Eliza Sweet married William Smith April 4, 1849 in Madison County, Illinois. I can't find them in the 1850 census. Eliza's mother, Mercy Sweet, is in Omnighent Twp. Eliza's brothers Lafayette & Andrew are nearby in Macoupin County. Eliza was born about 1826 in Vermont and William Smith was born about 1799 in Massachusetts. The oldest child in the household in 1860 was born about 1853. Both William and Eliza had ties to Massachusetts, Eliza's two sisters had probably remained behind in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to Illinois after the rest of the family. Because of his age, William may have had children before he married Eliza. Any clues about where they could have been in 1850? Is some of the Madison County 1850 census damaged or missing? Karen

Thanks. I hadn't seen the actual 1840 census but with the numbers you provided I could access the image on HeritageQuest. The members of the household are an exact match to who I thought should be there. That's very reassuring. I'll keep the other information around although right now it doesn't look like they match. You never know. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent & Tracy" <cdr2002@mchsi.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Silas Sweet and Mercy Sweet > I find a (1850 Census) living with a David Woolet (NY) wife Laura(KY) > Name: Joseph Sweet > Age: 87 > Estimated birth year: abt 1763 > Birth place: Rhode Island > Gender: Male > Home in 1850 > (City,County,State): Between Macoupin and Apple Creeks, Greene, Illinois > Page: 68 > Roll: M432_108 > > 1840 age 50-60 > Name: Silas Sweet > Township: Taylors > County: Greene > State: Illinois > Roll: 60 > Page: 74 > > 1830 > Name: Sweet, Silas > Township: Dover > County: Dutchess > State: New York > Year: 1830 > Roll: 104 > Page: 223 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen" <gtskjs@mvn.net> > To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:21 PM > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Silas Sweet and Mercy Sweet > > > > Does anyone have access to records for Madison County that may help me > solve some important mysteries? These folks are "highly likely" to be my > link to the Mayflower as well as a Revolutionary War veteran. Silas Sweet > was born in Vermont or Massachusetts about 1777. He lived in Bradford, > Orange County, Vermont and also Bristol County, Massachusetts where he > married Mercy White. They moved to Illinois about 1838. Silas' household is > found in the 1845 census in Madison County. Mercy and some of the children > are found in Madison County in 1850 but no Silas. By the 1860 census, no > Mercy Sweet. Mercy Sweet was born August 20, 1794 in Massachusetts. We > "believe" these to be their children and spouses: > > > > > > Emmeline Sweet 1820 - 1871 > > +John Nicolaus Tatch 1813 - 1859 > > *2nd Husband of Emmeline Sweet: > > +John B. Scheffler > > Mary B. Sweet 1822 - after 1860 > > +John S. Stewart 1810 - after 1880 (found in Washington & California) > > Lafayette Sweet 1825 - 1901 > > +Mary Cooper Moore 1820 - 1911 > > Eliza Sweet 1826 - (between 1867-1870) > > +William Smith 1799 - (between 1860-1867) > > *2nd Husband of Eliza Sweet: > > +Obediah Mize - 1870 > > Maria Sweet 1827 - (not found after 1850 census, no record that she > married) > > Lydia Ann Sweet 1830 - after 1900 in California > > +Alexander Camp 1823 - after 1880 in California > > Benjamin Sweet 1832 - 1893 > > +Malissa Jane Ridenour 1841 - 1905 > > Andrew Sweet 1833 - after 1865 (don't believe he ever married) > > > > > > This family had ties to Macoupin and Montgomery counties but the parents > were never found there. > > > > > > Any information would be appreciated but what we really need is probate > records for Silas Sweet (died 1845-1850) or Mercy Sweet (died 1850-1860). We > also don't know where any of these folks were buried. > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Passenger Lists on the internet search: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Passenger+Lists&btnG=Google+Search > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm > >

Here's some more specific information regarding the publication CS71.S976 1898 Johnson, Charles Sweet, 1847- Silas Sweet of New Bedford, Mass., and Bradford, Vermont and his descendants [microform] / by Charles Sweet Johnson. -- Private ed. -- Washing- ton, D.C. : [s.n.], 1898. 19 p. ; 25 cm. Call number of original: CS71.S976 1898. Master microform held by: DLC. Microfilm. Washington, D.C. : Library of Congress Photoduplication Service, 1985. 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. I. Title. Microfilm 85/5440 (C) 85-115301 Maryjane - Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness www.raogk.org

You might have viewed this already. However, if not, go to this site and you can look at the actual document. It is signed by the president at the time - Martin Van Buren. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Detail.asp?Accession=IL2300%5F%5F%2E044&Index=1&QryID=64938.69&DetailTab=1 Illinois Public Domain Land Tract Sales Database. Click the name of the purchaser below to view the detailed record of the purchase. Legal Sect- Twn- Ra- Meri- Date Name of Purchaser Description ion ship nge dian Purchased County ---------- Silas Sweet SWSE 34 11N 10W 3 07/18/1837 GREENE Detailed InformationPurchaser: SWEET SILAS Residence of Purchaser: GREENE Social Status: Legal Description: Aliquot Parts or Lot: SWSE Section Number: 34 Township: 11N Range: 10W Meridan: 3 County of Purchase: GREENE Details of Sale: Acres: 40.00 Price per Acre: 1.25 Total Price: 50.00 Type of Sale: FD Date of Purchase: 07/18/1837 Volume: 339 Page: 179 You might want to explore in Greene Co. for his death info. Perhaps Mercy moved to Madison Co. following his death. In the 1840 census he is living in Greene Co. Perhaps an RAOGK volunteer is located in Greene Co. Have you had access to this book? Perhaps it has some detailed information for you. You might contact a researcher from RAOGK to look it up in D.C. and copy it for you. THE AMERICAN GENEALOGIST, Being a CATALOGUE OF FAMILY HISTORIES.GENEALOGIES. Silas SWEET of New Bedford, Mass., and Bradford, Vt. [1800], and his descendants. By Charles Sweet Johnson, LL. B. Private edition. Washington, D.C.: [press of W. F. Roberts] 1898, 8vo, 21 pages, indexed. Maryjane - Volunteer for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness www.raogk.org