Can membership be made on a year-to-year basis? ---------- > From: Yvonne James-Henderson <hen1@idt.net> > To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Rootsweb Needs Our Help! > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 5:21 PM > > Everyone on a very limited income, those new and young genealogy > researchers with young families or people who already give to > RootsWeb may delete this message. > > For everyone else, I am begging you to listen. > > RootsWeb is run by a Mom and Pop operation called Brian Leverich > and Karen Isaacson, husband and wife. They started RootsWeb out of > the money in their pockets with the server in their home. Karen > works for Rand Corp fulltime and Brian, a Phd in computers, does > speaking engagements and keeps RootsWeb servers, equipment "pieced" > together with whatever donations comes their way. > > Brian is determined to keep genealogy free on the internet. Our > donations haven't been enough (about 2.5% of the users of RootsWeb > sites donate) so he went out after a sponsor who wouldn't have > strings attached. Palladium came across but was recently bought by > the biggies, I think it was the Broderbund conglommerate - forget) > and the money and equipment expected from Palladium didn't make the > last payment. Soooo, Brian and Karen took out a $25,000 loan > recently to keep our genealogy free out here. > > A thought has crossed some minds that the "biggies" are trying to > break Brian and Karen down in order to get B and K to sell out to > them. > > Brian and Karen are working to go non profit so down the road maybe > some major contributions and foundation money will go their way. > Brian says all involved in going non profit with an atty, etc, is > mind boggling. > > In the meantime, RootsWeb is hurting in the financial support > department. > > Anytime you are subscribed to a list or browse/search sites for > genealogy information, note the domain in the url. Does it have > rootsweb in the address? > > I am begging you, if you can afford it, to support the RootsWeb > Genealogical Cooperative. > > If I have helped you in anyway with your research, would you please > donate $12 or $24 to RootsWeb so we can keep all this great > genealogy data on the internet free and even increase the data for > users? > I am doing my part by being a donor. > > Here is the site to learn about RootsWeb and the address to donate. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > I know with Christmas we are all pretty well tapped out, but could > you find $12 or $24 or even more by Jan? > > Think of those little pieces of paper with ancestors names on them > that Grandpa, Grandma, Dad or Mom saved for you, how they would be > flabbergasted at the time it is taking you to find a ggggrandparent > by way of the internet and RootsWeb. > > By January, we will probably find the RootsWeb servers overloaded > with all the new computers received as Christmas presents. It > happens every year. > > A side note here - this is the best time to browse while everyone > is in Wally World going crazy with shopping. Better get the > browsing done now because January and the increase in people going > online, it inevitably slows down. > > Thanks for listening and thank you to anyone who will contribute to > RootsWeb. Written by Gloria Frazier > > > Happy Holidays, > > Yvonne in Burke, VA > Vive la USGenWeb Project! > ************************** > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com We received calls today from Palladium and TLC assuring us that the December sponsorship check is in the mail. That makes things better for us in many ways, and we'll be bringing the Palladium banners back on line. While we aren't quite sure how the information flowed, it's clear that Palladium and TLC had seen postings by one or several of you on your lists. Also, we'd like to thank you because your recent efforts have resulted in a substantial number of new members. This puts us much closer to being able to do things like getting a bigger and faster search engine server online for handling your list archives. Thanks again, B.

Desperate for information on Alvin/Alva Edgar Thompson who was born in MO in the late 1800 or early 1900s. He married Mae Nicholas around 1928 in Madison County, IL. Anyone who may know anything or who could lookup a possible marriage please let me know. This is a brick wall for me. Happy Holidays to everyone on the list! Nancy Conrad

Thank you Yvonne for pointing this out to us. It may help if you tell the list that the URL given had a secure server so donations can be made by credit card, which I did this AM. I am on this list search for Michael Nicholas Weber b.1797 NY, his son Benjamin Nicholas b.1815 NY, and his son Albert Lawrence Weber, my grandfather b. Baraboo, 1861. Family lived in Collinsville. I have found some info on census but seem unable to find anything else. Merry Christmas!! Yvonne James-Henderson wrote: > Everyone on a very limited income, those new and young genealogy > researchers with young families or people who already give to > RootsWeb may delete this message. > > For everyone else, I am begging you to listen. > > RootsWeb is run by a Mom and Pop operation called Brian Leverich > and Karen Isaacson, husband and wife. They started RootsWeb out of > the money in their pockets with the server in their home. Karen > works for Rand Corp fulltime and Brian, a Phd in computers, does > speaking engagements and keeps RootsWeb servers, equipment "pieced" > together with whatever donations comes their way. > > Brian is determined to keep genealogy free on the internet. Our > donations haven't been enough (about 2.5% of the users of RootsWeb > sites donate) so he went out after a sponsor who wouldn't have > strings attached. Palladium came across but was recently bought by > the biggies, I think it was the Broderbund conglommerate - forget) > and the money and equipment expected from Palladium didn't make the > last payment. Soooo, Brian and Karen took out a $25,000 loan > recently to keep our genealogy free out here. > > A thought has crossed some minds that the "biggies" are trying to > break Brian and Karen down in order to get B and K to sell out to > them. > > Brian and Karen are working to go non profit so down the road maybe > some major contributions and foundation money will go their way. > Brian says all involved in going non profit with an atty, etc, is > mind boggling. > > In the meantime, RootsWeb is hurting in the financial support > department. > > Anytime you are subscribed to a list or browse/search sites for > genealogy information, note the domain in the url. Does it have > rootsweb in the address? > > I am begging you, if you can afford it, to support the RootsWeb > Genealogical Cooperative. > > If I have helped you in anyway with your research, would you please > donate $12 or $24 to RootsWeb so we can keep all this great > genealogy data on the internet free and even increase the data for > users? > I am doing my part by being a donor. > > Here is the site to learn about RootsWeb and the address to donate. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > I know with Christmas we are all pretty well tapped out, but could > you find $12 or $24 or even more by Jan? > > Think of those little pieces of paper with ancestors names on them > that Grandpa, Grandma, Dad or Mom saved for you, how they would be > flabbergasted at the time it is taking you to find a ggggrandparent > by way of the internet and RootsWeb. > > By January, we will probably find the RootsWeb servers overloaded > with all the new computers received as Christmas presents. It > happens every year. > > A side note here - this is the best time to browse while everyone > is in Wally World going crazy with shopping. Better get the > browsing done now because January and the increase in people going > online, it inevitably slows down. > > Thanks for listening and thank you to anyone who will contribute to > RootsWeb. Written by Gloria Frazier > > Happy Holidays, > > Yvonne in Burke, VA > Vive la USGenWeb Project! > ************************** > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

Everyone on a very limited income, those new and young genealogy researchers with young families or people who already give to RootsWeb may delete this message. For everyone else, I am begging you to listen. RootsWeb is run by a Mom and Pop operation called Brian Leverich and Karen Isaacson, husband and wife. They started RootsWeb out of the money in their pockets with the server in their home. Karen works for Rand Corp fulltime and Brian, a Phd in computers, does speaking engagements and keeps RootsWeb servers, equipment "pieced" together with whatever donations comes their way. Brian is determined to keep genealogy free on the internet. Our donations haven't been enough (about 2.5% of the users of RootsWeb sites donate) so he went out after a sponsor who wouldn't have strings attached. Palladium came across but was recently bought by the biggies, I think it was the Broderbund conglommerate - forget) and the money and equipment expected from Palladium didn't make the last payment. Soooo, Brian and Karen took out a $25,000 loan recently to keep our genealogy free out here. A thought has crossed some minds that the "biggies" are trying to break Brian and Karen down in order to get B and K to sell out to them. Brian and Karen are working to go non profit so down the road maybe some major contributions and foundation money will go their way. Brian says all involved in going non profit with an atty, etc, is mind boggling. In the meantime, RootsWeb is hurting in the financial support department. Anytime you are subscribed to a list or browse/search sites for genealogy information, note the domain in the url. Does it have rootsweb in the address? I am begging you, if you can afford it, to support the RootsWeb Genealogical Cooperative. If I have helped you in anyway with your research, would you please donate $12 or $24 to RootsWeb so we can keep all this great genealogy data on the internet free and even increase the data for users? I am doing my part by being a donor. Here is the site to learn about RootsWeb and the address to donate. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html I know with Christmas we are all pretty well tapped out, but could you find $12 or $24 or even more by Jan? Think of those little pieces of paper with ancestors names on them that Grandpa, Grandma, Dad or Mom saved for you, how they would be flabbergasted at the time it is taking you to find a ggggrandparent by way of the internet and RootsWeb. By January, we will probably find the RootsWeb servers overloaded with all the new computers received as Christmas presents. It happens every year. A side note here - this is the best time to browse while everyone is in Wally World going crazy with shopping. Better get the browsing done now because January and the increase in people going online, it inevitably slows down. Thanks for listening and thank you to anyone who will contribute to RootsWeb. Written by Gloria Frazier Happy Holidays, Yvonne in Burke, VA Vive la USGenWeb Project! **************************

Researching Simon BURKHART born in Germany and Anna Marie KROMER born circa 1796 in Germany, died 6 Sep 1872 in Edwardsville, Madison Co., IL. (I don't know if Simon ever came to the U.S.) They most likely were from Baden, Germany. Their children were: Clara born circa 1823, married Andreas BAUER, died 14 Oct 1872 in Edwardsville, IL; Michael born circa 1827 in Baden, Germany, married Anna Maria KINDERMANN on 26 Oct 1861 in Madison Co., IL; Meinhard (aka Meinrad and Nimrod) born 31 Jan 1830 in Germany, married Stephanie ARMBRUSTER on 8 Jun 1854 in St. Louis, MO, died 15 Mar 1872 in Edwardsville, IL; and Raphael born 5 Oct 1836 in Germany, married Helene HEBERER on 19 May 1863 in Edwardsville, IL, died 6 Feb 1918 in St. Louis, MO. Raphael stated in the 1900 census that he emigrated to the U.S. in 1850.

Researching Raphael BURKHART born 5 Oct 1836 in Germany, emigrated to the U.S. in 1850, married Helene HEBERER 19 May 1863 in Edwardsville, Madison Co., IL, died 6 Feb 1918 in St. Louis, MO. Raphael was the son of Simon BURKHART and Anna Marie KROMER. Helene HEBERER was born 14 Nov 1843 in Dietzenbach, Starkenburg, Hesse, Germany, emigrated to the U.S. in 1852, and died 10 Dec 1928 in St. Louis, MO. She was the daughter of Philipp HEBERER and Magdalena MUELLER. The children of Raphael and Helene (HEBERER) BURKHART were: Mary Magdalena born 13 Sep 1863 in Edwardsville, IL, married Daniel AUBUCHON; Pauline born 26 Jul 1865 in Edwardsville, IL, married August L. KNOLL, died 29 Jun 1931 in St. Louis, MO; Louise Veronica born 1 Oct 1866 in Edwardsville, IL, married Alexander KRITE, died 14 Aug 1960 in Lemay, St. Louis Co., MO; Elizabeth born 25 Oct 1869 in St. Louis, MO, married Joseph Francis MOELLINGER on 8 Aug 1894 in St. Louis, MO, died 10 Jun 1953 in St. Louis, MO; John born circa 1874 in Missouri, married Nell _____; Francis J. born Nov 1877 in Missouri, died Sep 1931 in St. Louis, MO; Kathryne born 22 Jul 1880, married Guy SULLIVAN, died 27 Oct 1918; Cornelius Sebastian born 14 Jan 1883, married Maude M. ___ circa 1920, died 30 Nov 1957 in San Diego, CA; Helen Marie born 12 Sep 1888 in St. Louis, MO, died 6 May 1965 in St. Louis Co., MO, never married; and Alexander Francis born 4 Mar 1891 in Missouri, married Anna Marie ______, died Sep 1981 in CA.

Obviously your Jacob was neighbor to my ggrandfather Nicholas Weber, but if he came from DEU and his children were born in Edwardsville, he was not of the Palatine migration in the early 1700s. Our Weaver/Webers had 2 Jacobs;, one in the Mohawk Valley and the other went to PA, but obviously long before your immigrant ancestor. Happy Hunting, LKW Kelley6664@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/3/98 6:27:25 AM Central Standard Time, owene@aug.com > writes: > > << Did Jacob come from NY or PA Webers? I am searching for info on my > ggrandfather > in Collinsville, Madison County, IL in the 1850's. He was Nicholas Benjamin > WEBER, b.1816 Chatauqua County, NY. Will be glad to share if I find anything > on > Jacob. >> > > Well right now all I know is that Jacob was born in Germany and that at least > some of his children were born in Edwardsville, Madison County, IL. But I > would love to stay in touch and will keep you posted if I find any thing else > out. > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

In a message dated 12/3/98 6:27:25 AM Central Standard Time, owene@aug.com writes: << Did Jacob come from NY or PA Webers? I am searching for info on my ggrandfather in Collinsville, Madison County, IL in the 1850's. He was Nicholas Benjamin WEBER, b.1816 Chatauqua County, NY. Will be glad to share if I find anything on Jacob. >> Well right now all I know is that Jacob was born in Germany and that at least some of his children were born in Edwardsville, Madison County, IL. But I would love to stay in touch and will keep you posted if I find any thing else out.

Looking for someone to look up the birth of my grandmother Mae/Mabel/Melanies NICHIOLAS who was born in Granite City,IL 28 Jul 1909. Also her marriage around 1927 or 1928 to Alvin Edgar THOMPSON in Madison County. Our library has an index for these things I thought the libraries in these areas might also. Willing to pay reasonable fee. Thank you,' Nancy Conrad

I am trying to track down information about my GGreat Grand father Johann Ernst Kluge. I have his marriage certificate it says he was from Collinsville. He was married to Anna Margaretha Stecher. Thank you please e-mail me w/any info. Stephanie

I am searching for the names of SELPH and DUNBAR. I am not sure of the town but it could be in around Collinsville. All I know is my grandfather, Franklin A. Dunbar married Lourina Anna SELPH in Alton in 1874. I am looking for information on her parents surname of SELPH. Thanks, Evelyn bachand@jps.net

Recently, I was able to purchase "A History Of Rockbridge County, Virginia", by Oren F. Morton. It is a 1998 facsimile reprint of the original book which was published in 1920. It is an excellent book and can be purchased through Heritage Books Inc. at www.heritagebooks.com or at www.ancestor.com. Since I was the one who recently sent information on Naming Patterns that are sometimes used by different ethnic groups, I thought I'd also offer some other useful information on names as talked about in the above book. I was surprised to learn that our ancestors only started using middle names after 1789 and that within 50 years, having only a single name was a rarity. Prior to that, middle names were more common among the Germans. Because they were so proud of their newly founded country, you will often find initials in a person's name such as G.W. for George Washington or T. J. for Thomas Jefferson or B.F. for Benjamin Franklin. Soon after, people also started naming their children after prominent citizens of the community or a local minister. It wasn't long before middle names were given to girls too. People did not shorten names as we do now. You won't usually find a Samuel being called Sam or a Benjamin being called Ben or a Patrick being called Pat. However, it was common for certain women's names to be changed to a nickname. The most common ones were Mary became Polly, Martha became Patsy, Elizabeth became Betsy, Sarah became Sally and Agnes was often called Nancy. When researching an ancestor with one of those names, don't be surprised to find them regularly listed by the nickname instead of the given name. I hope this helps you as much as it did me. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com Source: "A History Of Rockbridge County, Virginia" by Oren F. Morton.

Hello, Could you please check on Schaefer or Schaeffer for your 1866 directory? I believe they lived in Marine. Thank for helping us all. We greatly appreciate it. Deborah Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> Houston, Texas USA

Sorry about the 'letter' that I just sent. Have your info about the Shaffers Thanks again oshaffer@ccaonline.com

Dear Jeana: Did you recieve my inquiry about any Shaffer/Shafer,etc. who might be in the directory? David, Isaac, Thomas, Abraham are some of the names of the clan. ---Thanks Orvil Shaffer oshaffer@ccaonline.com

Shaffer, Frederick farmer t3r10 Venice PO Shaffer, George farmer t4r8 Edwardsville PO Shaffer, John land holder t4r6 Marine PO Shaffer, Joseph carpenter Alhambra PO Shaffer, Richard t5r8 Edwardsville PO

Weber, Jacob blacksmith Edwardsville PO Weber, Jacob owns a tavern Highland PO Jeana

I have never heard the name Kurlbaums mentioned before. If my Mueller came to the US with family, I do not know who they were. I have a long way to go on them. Deborah Deborah.Mueller@chron.com <mailto:Deborah.Mueller@chron.com> Houston, Texas USA -----Original Message----- From: TQDA06A@prodigy.com [SMTP:TQDA06A@prodigy.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 6:00 PM To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: 1866 directory Deborah I was wondering if you are related to any Kurlbaums. I am doing research on that name and there is a Mueller in that family. Madison County. Thanks Judy in Ca. ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Visit the Madison County Home Page! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

Evelyn: GOsh, thanks for sharing your trip with all of us... That would be a dream for most of us... Maybe mine will come true one day... Karen in California