Georgenia, I would be MORE than delighted to purchase the book since you referenced my John Giger and his children. I went to the Madison County website but found no reference to the Historical Society. Do you have a phone number or an address? >History of Madison Co., Illinois You can purchase it from the Madison Co., Historical Society. I did find a Madison County Genealogical Society, but the book they offer only has 152 and you mentioned that the GIGER reference was on page 464, so obviously this is not the right book. 1999 PUBLICATIONS MADISON COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY P.O. BOX 631, EDWARDSVILLE, IL 62025-0631 1882 HISTORY OF MADISON CO., IL SURNAME INDEX, 152 pp. I'm very grateful for your assistance. Maggie Kyger Miller maggiem@empnet.com

In a message dated 6/23/1999 6:25:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, maggiem@empnet.com writes: > s anyone researching the surname GIGER? > > Is there a book available about the early settlers in Madison County? > > Maggie Kyger Miller > maggiem@empnet.com Dear Maggie: The "History of Madison County, Illinois page 464 states: John Giger, a Pennsylvania German, entered several tracts of land in section five, of St. Jacobs Township, Madison Co., Illinois, Nov 8, 1816, where he improved a good farm and resided until his death. He raised a family of four sons and one daughter. She married Benjamin Reimmer; and the sons, Jacob, John, Joseph, and Moses, married, raised famileis, and improved farms in the county. I found this book, History of Madison Co., Illinois was invaluable in helping me find out something about my kin. You can purchase it from the Madison Co., Historical Society. Is this the Giger you are looking for? There are several other references to this John Giger. Sincerely, Georgenia Stewart Las Vegas, Nevada

Is anyone researching the surname GIGER? Is there a book available about the early settlers in Madison County? Maggie Kyger Miller maggiem@empnet.com

Thanks very much! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Westerhold <marwes@madisontelco.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 6:29 PM Subject: Jarvis Twp Cemeteries > Here is a list of the Jarvis township Cemeteries in each of the MCGS > Cemetery Books: > > Book 1: > Jarvis Township: > Harris Cemetery > Canteen Creek Baptist Church Cemetery > Bohnenstiehl Cemetery > "Old" St. John's (German) Evangelical Church Cemetery > Metz Family Cemetery > "New" St. John's (German) Evangelical Church Cemetery > St. John The Baptists Catholic Cemetery (Blackjack) > Honig-Hoenig Cemetery > St. Jerome Catholic Cemetery > > Book 2: > Jarvis Township: > Watt Cemetery > Edwards Cemetery > Hall Cemetery > > Book 4: > Jarvis Township: > Langenwalter Family Cemetery > Loyet Cemetery > "Old" Smart Family Cemetery > Reid-Riggin Family Cemetery > > Similar information for all of the cemetery books will be posted within > a few days on the MCGS web site. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > >

Here is a list of the Jarvis township Cemeteries in each of the MCGS Cemetery Books: Book 1: Jarvis Township: Harris Cemetery Canteen Creek Baptist Church Cemetery Bohnenstiehl Cemetery "Old" St. John's (German) Evangelical Church Cemetery Metz Family Cemetery "New" St. John's (German) Evangelical Church Cemetery St. John The Baptists Catholic Cemetery (Blackjack) Honig-Hoenig Cemetery St. Jerome Catholic Cemetery Book 2: Jarvis Township: Watt Cemetery Edwards Cemetery Hall Cemetery Book 4: Jarvis Township: Langenwalter Family Cemetery Loyet Cemetery "Old" Smart Family Cemetery Reid-Riggin Family Cemetery Similar information for all of the cemetery books will be posted within a few days on the MCGS web site.

My copy of Madison Co. Cemeteries, Book II which includes Jarvis Township does not have Jarvis Lutheran Cemetery in it. Only Watt, Edwards and Hall Cemetery are listed in Jarvis Township. Many of my relatives with the surname Watt, Stice, Hagler, Minter, Mills and others are buried in the Watt cemetery. I would like to find living people with those names or others to contact in that area of the state of Illinois. All the help I get would be appreciated. Mary Watt Worthington -----Original Message----- From: James Maxeiner <maxeiner@worldnet.att.net> To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 11:12 PM Subject: Jarvis Lutheran Cemetery--ZENK Family >The Madison County Genealogical Society Cemetery Books, volumes 1, 2 and 4, >all list cemeteries in Jarvis Township. Can someone tell me which of these, >if any or all, includes listings from the Jarvis Lutheran Cemetery in Troy? >I am looking for the Zenk family. I would like to order the appropriate >volume. Thanks. > >James Maxeiner > >______________________________

I am looking for anyone researching the Kelly family. Sereptia Caroline Hubert married Henry Porter Kelly, they had 14 children, she died in Alton ILL at the home of her son Jeff Kelly June 9, 1939, she was buried in Frankford Missouri. I have no other records on Sereptia, any information would be appreciated. Thank you so much. Mary Utterback

Hi everyone! My reason for being on this list just sneaked in....... The rare surname Maxeiner! Attn James, I'd love to hear from you about your Maxeiners, I'm looking for clues to my Maxeiners from Jersey and Madison counties in IL, from Germany. My step-father/2nd half cousin once removed is a Maxeiner....... Hoping for some clues! Diane Elizabeth (Hendricks) Parish Alton, IL James Maxeiner wrote: > The Madison County Genealogical Society Cemetery Books, volumes 1, 2 and 4, > all list cemeteries in Jarvis Township. Can someone tell me which of these, > if any or all, includes listings from the Jarvis Lutheran Cemetery in Troy? > I am looking for the Zenk family. I would like to order the appropriate > volume. Thanks. > > James Maxeiner > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

The Madison County Genealogical Society Cemetery Books, volumes 1, 2 and 4, all list cemeteries in Jarvis Township. Can someone tell me which of these, if any or all, includes listings from the Jarvis Lutheran Cemetery in Troy? I am looking for the Zenk family. I would like to order the appropriate volume. Thanks. James Maxeiner

Pauline, Glad somebody else is trying to make sense of this little bit of history. It feels like I've been doing a "crash course" trying to make sense out of it. The book I found that helped me the most was ""That Disgraceful Affair," the Black Hawk War" by Cecil Eby. I got it in our public library here in Vancouver, BC. His viewpoint is very much in favour of the regular army, and sees the volunteer militia as a real disaster, but it still gives some sense of what was happening. Basically, Black Hawk's people wanted to live on their land, and incoming settlers, the Illinois government, and the US government all wanted them gone. Black Hawk tried to resist by staying in Illinois instead of moving across the river to Iowa. In 1831, which was basically a non-war, he moved back across the Mississippi to Iowa when the troops were raised, so they burned his village. In 1832 he came back to Illinois, there were a couple of murders further north (not related to Black Hawk), public hysteria roared into a frenzy, and lots of people volunteered to fight. (There were quite a few companies from Madison County, both in 1831 and 1832). During the 1832 "war", Black Hawk spent most of his time running and hiding. At one point, he decided to surrender, sent three men with a white flag to met with a volunteer militia. The militia (not one from Madison County) panicked at the sight of Indians, shot the person carrying the white flag, dashed around in complete disarray, and then "retreated" in a similar fashion. At that point, the "war" was real. Black Hawk and his people were pursued into Wisconsin [Michigan Territory], and eventually slaughtered as they tried to cross the Mississippi. Another series of books which gives a lot of "data" is "The Black Hawk War 1831-1832", Illinois Historical Collections Volume XXXV. I got this out of a university library. It has all the original documents related to both the 1831 and 1832 "wars". I've read a few of the letters, and they remind me of when we used to play cowboys and indians as a kid, with lots of rushing around and not a lot of sense. Definitely a different way of seeing history. Black Hawk has also told his version of the war in an autobiography, but I don't have the exact title. Hope this helps anyone interested in this bit of history. It apparently fascinates historians, at least in part because several people who later became famous took part -- including Abraham Lincoln, Jefferson Davis, and Zachary Taylor. Also, about a third of the regular US Army, under General Winfield Scott, got called in, but they got struck down by a cholera epidemic and never really took part. Gayel >Hi, Gayel: Sorry, I'm no help to you on your question about James Jones, >but wanted to respond since my great-great-grandfather, Francis Berry, also >fought in the Black Hawk War. [snip] >But since learning this about my ancestor, I've become very interested in >the Black Hawk War and have been looking for information about it.[snip] >I would be interested in any information about the Black Hawk War. Thanks. > >Pauline Hale > >______________________________ Gayel Knott gknott@istar

Hello listers, Thought this might be useful information to share. I can't take credit for anything other than *spreading the word*, so to speak. Happy hunting, Barb Terhune -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ROSZELL-L] Fwd: [OHROOTS-L] Epidemics Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: ROSZELL-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:12:44 EDT From: AZREEN@aol.com To: ROSZELL-L@rootsweb.com --part1_8ad36a2d.24989a5c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received this from the OHROOTS-L mailing list. Thought you all should see it. Cec/Mom/Cecily G. (Roszell) Steele In a message dated 06/15/99 8:26:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NLPhil1@aol.com writes: Hello everybody, I just received this from a cousin very much into Genealogy, and thought it worth sharing. In case you ever wondered why a large number of your ancestors disappeared during a certain period in history, this might help. Epidemics have always had a great influence on people -- and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. Some of the major epidemics in the United States are listed below: 1657 Boston Measles 1687 Boston Measles 1690 New York Yellow Fever 1713 Boston Measles 1729 Boston Measles 1732-3 Worldwide Influenza 1738 South Carolina Smallpox 1739-40 Boston Measles 1747 CT,NY,PA,SC Measles 1759 N. Amer. [areas inhabited by white people] Measles 1761 North America and West Indies Influenza 1772 North America Measles 1775 N. Amer. [especially hard in NE] epidemic Unknown 1775-6 Worldwide [one of the worst epidemics] Influenza 1783 Dover, DE ["extremely fatal"] Bilious Disorder 1788 Philadelphia and New York Measles 1793 Vermont [a "putrid" fever] and Influenza 1793 VA [killed 500 in 5 counties in 4 weeks] Influenza 1793 Philadelphia [one of the worst epidemics] Yellow Fever 1793 Harrisburg, PA [many unexplained deaths] Unknown 1793 Middletown, PA [many mysterious deaths] Unknown 1794 Philadelphia, PA Yellow Fever 1796-7 Philadelphia, PA Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia, PA [one of the worst] Yellow Fever 1803 New York Yellow Fever 1820-3 Nationwide [starts Schuylkill River and spreads] "Fever" 1831-2 Nationwide [brought by English emigrants] Asiatic Cholera 1832 NY City and other major cities Cholera 1837 Philadelphia Typhus 1841 Nationwide [especially severe in the south] Yellow Fever 1847 New Orleans Yellow Fever 1847-8 Worldwide Influenza 1848-9 North America Cholera 1850 Nationwide Yellow Fever 1850-1 North America Influenza 1852 Nationwide [New Orleans-8,000 die in summer] Yellow Fever 1855 Nationwide [many parts] Yellow Fever 1857-9 Worldwide [one of the greated epidemics] Influenza 1860-1 Pennsylvania Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans {Smallpox} Baltimore, Memphis, Washington DC {Cholera} [A series of recurring epidemics of:} {Typhus {Typhoid {Scarlet Fever {Yellow Fever 1873-5 North America and Europe Influenza 1878 New Orleans [last great epidemic] Yellow Fever 1885 Plymouth, PA Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, FL Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide [high point yr.] {Influenza more people were hospitalized in WW1 from this epidemic than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps, with 80% death rate in some camps Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, OH 1834 New York City 1849 New York 1851 Coles Co., IL, The Great Plains, and Missouri Nancy ==== OHROOTS Mailing List ==== This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Genealogy in the State of Ohio. This list will also be my way to contact you directly with any updates, changes, and other news about my page. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHROOTS for the list name. --part1_8ad36a2d.24989a5c_boundary--

Hi, Gayel: Sorry, I'm no help to you on your question about James Jones, but wanted to respond since my great-great-grandfather, Francis Berry, also fought in the Black Hawk War. I don't have my materials available, but I think he was in something called the Odd Battalion of Spies (maybe under an officer named Whitesides?). I think Berry also enlisted at Edwardsville. Can't remember if it was the 1831 or the 1832 war (or both). But since learning this about my ancestor, I've become very interested in the Black Hawk War and have been looking for information about it. My ancestor died in 1833 in Madison Co., but I don't know much more about him. The family moved to southwestern Missouri shortly thereafter, except for one son, David Berry, who stayed a few years longer. I don't know if Francis died from wounds or what. I also don't know where he would have fought during the war. I think he may have mustered out in Rock Island. Francis (a veteran of the War of 1812) and his family moved to Madison Co. about 1828 from Jefferson Co., TN. I noticed the name of John Day (possibly the same John Day who was the brother of Francis' wife, Esther Day) among those listed on the roster of the Black Hawk War. I would be interested in any information about the Black Hawk War. Thanks. Pauline Hale

In the summer of 1831, as part of the Sac and Fox (or 1st Black Hawk) War, James JONES served as a private in the company of Captain John P. Larance (or Lawrence), under Major Nathaniel Buckmaster in the Odd Battalion of Mounted Volunteers, Duncan's Brigade. He enlisted in Edwardsville, as did other members of the company. Does anyone know anything about this James JONES? I am trying to decide whether or not he is my ggrandfather, who was born about 1800 and became a lead miner in Wisconsin. He said he fought in 3 wars, and I know he was a Captain of his own Company in Iowa County, WI in 1832. Any information on this James JONES would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Gayel Gayel Knott gknott@istar

Hello Your name sure rings a bell However I don't rember from where. My parents are William and Ruth Phipps from Godfrey, Sorry I can't help. Ron Phipps MUtterb103@aol.com wrote: > I am looking for anyone researching the Kelly family. > Sereptia Caroline Hubert married Henry Porter Kelly, they had 14 children, > she died in Alton ILL at the home of her son Jeff Kelly June 9, 1939, she was > buried in Frankford Missouri. I have no other records on Sereptia, any > information would be appreciated. > Thank you so much. > Mary Utterback > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

The St. Louis library here have information on the FGS Conference and they pamlets with information on all of the sublect's. Maureen

Sharing.....I am sure many of you know about this already! Subject: FGS Conference Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:58:03 -0500 From: "Pat Stamm" <Pat.StLu@worldnet.att.net> Dear Yvonne, The Federation of Genealogical Societies and St. Louis Genealogical Society is hosting the FGS Conference, August 11 to 14, 1999 in St. Louis. For those who are researching in Missouri, there is a wealth of resources that will be discussed. It doesn't matter if the researcher is a beginner, intermediate, or advanced researcher there are lectures that will help. We invite you or any member of the Missouri Gen Web program to link to our page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostlogs/STINDEX.HTM. From there, click on FGS and they can download a program. Hopefully you and many of the GenWeb family will "Meet Me In St. Louis" this August. Thanks. Pat Stamm, Program Co-Chair FGS "Meet Me In St. Louis" August 11 - 14, 1999 http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostlogs/STINDEX.HTM

Pam, My husband and myself are about to debut the new community web site MetroStLouis.com. This will happen in July. I'd like to get some more info on the conference that will happen in St. Louis in August so we can feature this on the front page of the site in early August. Can you tell me where I can get more details on the conference? Thanks a bunch! Victoria and David Hunt MetroStLouis.com Cherokee & Proud Web Site Green Collections Genealogy web site. Longshots web site. http://members.aol.com/taliushee/set1.htm http://members.aol.com/lodepole/longshot.html http://metrostlouis.com http://members.aol.com/quill101/collections

The link just worked for me. Using IE5 Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret K. Miller <maggiem@empnet.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:12 PM Subject: MCGS | >HTTP Error 404 | > | >404 Not Found | > | >The Web server cannot find the file or script you asked for. Please check | the URL to ensure that the path is correct. | > | >Please contact the server's administrator if this problem persists. | | ************************ | | Above is what happened when I trid to contact | | http://www.plantnet.com/mcgs. | | Maggie | | | ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== | Visit the Madison County Home Page! | http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm |

>HTTP Error 404 > >404 Not Found > >The Web server cannot find the file or script you asked for. Please check the URL to ensure that the path is correct. > >Please contact the server's administrator if this problem persists. ************************ Above is what happened when I trid to contact http://www.plantnet.com/mcgs. Maggie

Try http://www.plantnet.com/mcgs/ (No period--slash instead) Linda