Hi, I just happened to see this and really don't know who it was meant for. I can recall going through Troy on Troy-Scott Road and seeing a cemetery on the left as you come into town. Also, it seems that I remember a big tombstone, visible from the road, that said Renfro. The name, Renfro, is very common in Madison County. Sorry that I can't help you beyond that, but hope it helps. Globob2@aol.com wrote: > > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > it. Thanks. > Gloria Osborn > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > http://www.rootsweb.com/

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Hi, Roland! Your friend wouldn't have a missing Barbara MAURER who was born August 10, 1852, and died April 9, 1872, would he? Barbara was my great great grandfather's first wife. They were married on August 14, 1870 at Freeburg, St. Clair, Illinois, by Rev. Theodore HORN at St. Paul's in Belleville. His name was Jacob HEIGELE. He then married my great great grandmother, Margaretha FISCHER in December of 1872. Jacob and Margaretha's daughter, Anna HEIGELE, married Friedrich "Fritz" KOEPPE, of Marinetown, Madison, Illinois. His parents were Frederick KOEPPE and Annie ARBOGAST. Patty Frazer County Coordinator Jefferson County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojeffer/index.html MOJEFFER-L List Owner Personal Home Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pfrazer/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Roland Bauer [mailto:rrbauer@accessus.net] Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 12:15 PM To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Regarding test I have some info on the bell factory. I helped a friend, Irwin Mauerer, with his book on the Cook-Maurer families. His Cook was the original settler in C'vle about 1820, forgotten exact. Roland Bauer Collinsville Patti Peters wrote: > Speaking of Collinsville - my gg-grandfather, Thomas Moore, moved there in 1847 with his father James U. Moore and > his mother, Rebecca Cook. They had gone out to meet James' brother, Joseph Moore who was a blacksmith married to Sarah > or Jane Grub and were Methodist. Any one familiar with these names? > Also, can anyone tell me about the bell manufacturing place or name in Belleville? > Thanks - Patti in AZ > > Roland Bauer wrote: > > > My farm is next to the old Renfro Homestead. What are you looking for? > > Cheers!!!!!!!!! > > Roland Bauer, Collinsville > > > > Christel Taylor wrote: > > > > > There are several cemeteries in Troy, which is where I live. Do you have any clues about whether these people were > > > affiliated with one of the churches? It would be a place to start. > > > > > > Globob2@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > > > > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > > > > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > > > > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > > > > it. Thanks. > > > > Gloria Osborn > > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > > > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > > > > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > > > > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > > > > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > > > > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I have some info on the bell factory. I helped a friend, Irwin Mauerer, with his book on the Cook-Maurer families. His Cook was the original settler in C'vle about 1820, forgotten exact. Roland Bauer Collinsville Patti Peters wrote: > Speaking of Collinsville - my gg-grandfather, Thomas Moore, moved there in 1847 with his father James U. Moore and > his mother, Rebecca Cook. They had gone out to meet James' brother, Joseph Moore who was a blacksmith married to Sarah > or Jane Grub and were Methodist. Any one familiar with these names? > Also, can anyone tell me about the bell manufacturing place or name in Belleville? > Thanks - Patti in AZ > > Roland Bauer wrote: > > > My farm is next to the old Renfro Homestead. What are you looking for? > > Cheers!!!!!!!!! > > Roland Bauer, Collinsville > > > > Christel Taylor wrote: > > > > > There are several cemeteries in Troy, which is where I live. Do you have any clues about whether these people were > > > affiliated with one of the churches? It would be a place to start. > > > > > > Globob2@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > > > > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > > > > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > > > > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > > > > it. Thanks. > > > > Gloria Osborn > > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > > > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > > > > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > > > > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > > > > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > > > > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

I go to the Methodist church in Troy. I'll see what kinds of records we might have there. I think I know where the old cemetery is, too, though I can't check it until next week. Globob2@aol.com wrote: > Hi again, > By word of mouth, I was just told that George Washington West was buried in > the old Renfro cemetery at Troy. Other than that I really don't know any > church affiliation. The family has always been church goers and usually > Methodist. > Gloria > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

Speaking of Collinsville - my gg-grandfather, Thomas Moore, moved there in 1847 with his father James U. Moore and his mother, Rebecca Cook. They had gone out to meet James' brother, Joseph Moore who was a blacksmith married to Sarah or Jane Grub and were Methodist. Any one familiar with these names? Also, can anyone tell me about the bell manufacturing place or name in Belleville? Thanks - Patti in AZ Roland Bauer wrote: > My farm is next to the old Renfro Homestead. What are you looking for? > Cheers!!!!!!!!! > Roland Bauer, Collinsville > > Christel Taylor wrote: > > > There are several cemeteries in Troy, which is where I live. Do you have any clues about whether these people were > > affiliated with one of the churches? It would be a place to start. > > > > Globob2@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > > > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > > > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > > > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > > > it. Thanks. > > > Gloria Osborn > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > > > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > > > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > > > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > > > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

Hi again, By word of mouth, I was just told that George Washington West was buried in the old Renfro cemetery at Troy. Other than that I really don't know any church affiliation. The family has always been church goers and usually Methodist. Gloria

My farm is next to the old Renfro Homestead. What are you looking for? Cheers!!!!!!!!! Roland Bauer, Collinsville Christel Taylor wrote: > There are several cemeteries in Troy, which is where I live. Do you have any clues about whether these people were > affiliated with one of the churches? It would be a place to start. > > Globob2@aol.com wrote: > > > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > > it. Thanks. > > Gloria Osborn > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net

Helen; Tell me more about the Opps. I was good friends with Arthur Opps of Collinsvile. Died aboutr 15 years ago. mother was an Ostle. They had 2 daughters. I am in touch with the younger Jackie Opp Bechtold, husband Louis, He was from Belleville. Roland Bauer Marennad@aol.com wrote: > Sorry I meant that to go to the writer not the group at large. > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > http://www.rootsweb.com/

There are several cemeteries in Troy, which is where I live. Do you have any clues about whether these people were affiliated with one of the churches? It would be a place to start. Globob2@aol.com wrote: > I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I > saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is > a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would > have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate > it. Thanks. > Gloria Osborn > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist > if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb > provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing > lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to > make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists.Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! > http://www.rootsweb.com/

In a message dated 7/8/99 6:38:22 PM EST, Marennad@aol.com writes: << Sorry I meant that to go to the writer not the group at large. >> Same here, only to Gloria Osborn regarding the Renfro and West families. Got some good replies anyway, so thanks to you all and pardon the mistake--I'll watch the return more closely next time <g>... Tacy Arledge

Sorry I meant that to go to the writer not the group at large.

In a message dated 7/8/99 3:24:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Grandt60@aol.com writes: << Grandt60@aol.com >> Hi -- used to live in Glenview tell 96 when we retired out here to LasVegas. I have a daughter yet in Mundelien. I will be flying into OHara on the 5th of August to visit. By the way its flooding here in LasVegas today.

Yes there are several cemeteries - and some are in St Jacob which is so close to Troy that you do not realize your not there. We have Isenbergs in different ones. They were always poor and so I do not think any headstones exist anymore. I checked at Troy's clerks office while my dad was still living - believe it was about 92 - anyway they didnt have a lot of records for our family. Dad and I walked over what looked like land that had no one burried there - and yet his parents were there. Very sad. So not sure how much luck you will have. I may be able to find out more later since I have a cousin who finally is helping and over at St Paul's Lutheran to see what death records she can locate. Helen in flooded LasVegas!

Hi! Saw your posting on the Madison Co IL site, and I believe we are probably researching the same family. Actually, it is not my own family, but that of a dear friend that I am helping. She has spent many years and has lots of names and dates (much of it based on info from older family members), but not much in the way of documentation. I am trying to get the documentation together for her, as well as finding out whatever else I can along the way. Is your line thru Jesse Renfro who married Lettie West? This is my friend Mary's line, thru the daughter Amanda who married in 1841 to Thomas Deck. I have no info on Lettie at all, and what I have on Jesse is from the LDS site. This gives his date of birth as 22 Sep 1796 in Lincoln Co KY, d 1884 Madison Co, and md 1817 Madison Co to Lettie West. There are a few more generations of Renfros given, but I am first trying to document the generations from Jesse forward to my friend Mary. I have recently joined the Madison co Gen Society, and requested some cemetery records, county histories, marriage records, etc. If this is in fact your family, I would be willing to share anything which you may think would be of help to you. Although I now live in Colorado, I am originally from OH. We used to go thru Renfro Valley KY on the way to my grandmother's in St Pete FL. Renfro Valley is now in Rockcastle Co, but this county was originally part of Lincoln Co. Once I get a reply back from Madison Co, I plan to contact folks in Renfro Valley to see what they might have on the family--or have you done this?? Ms. Tacy A Arledge

88 degree Wheeling, Illinois. My great-grandmother was born in Madison County.

I got your message in San Diego. I have roots in Madison Co. IL. and when I saw you were researching in Troy, I wondered if you could tell me if there is a cemetery in Troy? I am searching for West and Renfro. These people would have been buried in Troy around 1876. If you can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks. Gloria Osborn

Thank you for the info and the dates, that is exactly what i needed to know. Pat At 09:00 PM 7/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >I think the oldest Catholic Church in Alton is SS Peter and Paul (the Old >Cathedral) located on State St. Refering to "Alton, Illinois Illustrated, >1912", the oldest Catholic assembly was initiated in 1840 in Upper Alton. >The first chuch was erected in 1843 on Third Street. In 1856 SS Peter and >Paul's was completed and it became the Bishop's Cathedral. I think St. >Mary's was erected later than 1856. > >Dick Neumann > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pat Stanford [mailto:stanford@mail.community.k12.mo.us] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 5:51 PM >> To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Oldest Catholic Church in Alton >> >> >> What is the oldest Catholic Church in Alton? >> >> >> ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Madison County Home Page! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm >> >> > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Visit the Madison County Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > >

I think the oldest Catholic Church in Alton is SS Peter and Paul (the Old Cathedral) located on State St. Refering to "Alton, Illinois Illustrated, 1912", the oldest Catholic assembly was initiated in 1840 in Upper Alton. The first chuch was erected in 1843 on Third Street. In 1856 SS Peter and Paul's was completed and it became the Bishop's Cathedral. I think St. Mary's was erected later than 1856. Dick Neumann > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Stanford [mailto:stanford@mail.community.k12.mo.us] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 5:51 PM > To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Oldest Catholic Church in Alton > > > What is the oldest Catholic Church in Alton? > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > >

Thank you At 09:43 PM 7/7/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hi, > I was always told that it was St. Marys Church on 3rd street. It >certainly looked the oldest. > >Patti > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >