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    1. Edwardsville Intelligencer
    2. Rosemary Bozovich
    3. Hello! Can someone tell me if the Edwardsville Intelligencer has been microfilmed. If so, is there someone who could do a lookup for me? I am looking for an obituary dated around Aug. or Sept. 1892. Thanks! Rosemary

    07/18/1999 03:59:42
    1. Re: Old School Pictures
    2. Carol Ryan-Spenader
    3. Have you tried the Granite City libraries? I know the main library carries some of the year books of the area's schools and so do some of the smaller surrounding libraries in that area do, too. Carol Tampa, FL PADDIOO@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know where I might obtain a copy of the old Washington School, > Old Logan School (since there was a new Logan School erected in the 50's) and > Central Junior High School that were located in Granite City, IL. I went to > all three of these schools and would love to have a picture of them. > > Thanks > Paddi > Paddioo@aol.com > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

    07/18/1999 03:42:22
    1. Re: Old School Pictures
    2. Carol Jo Thompson
    3. Try a letter to the Superintendent of Schools in whatever School District these schools are located. If they don't have them I'll bet they will be able to help you find them.

    07/18/1999 03:32:45
    1. Re: Genealogy headings
    2. jlane
    3. worked for me just fine. -----Original Message----- From: PADDIOO@aol.com <PADDIOO@aol.com> To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Genealogy headings >Can anyone verify the web-site listed below? I cannot get it to work. > >thanks >Paddi >Paddioo@aol.com > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Visit the Madison County Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm >

    07/18/1999 02:17:16
    1. SCHOOLS
    2. After Washington School was no longer used for a grade school it was a community college for a while now there is nothing there building torn down

    07/18/1999 12:52:12
    1. SCHOOL PICTURES
    2. The Granite City Library does indeed have pictures of old Logan School it is now an apartment house Central is down and Prather is a grade school New Logan is no longer used but still standing the field is now a big soccer complex I also attended Logan and Washington and Prather

    07/18/1999 12:50:45
    1. Re: Genealogy headings
    2. Go to another county site and use their "neighbor county sites". I just did that from Greene County and it came up.

    07/18/1999 09:50:00
    1. Old School Pictures
    2. Does anyone know where I might obtain a copy of the old Washington School, Old Logan School (since there was a new Logan School erected in the 50's) and Central Junior High School that were located in Granite City, IL. I went to all three of these schools and would love to have a picture of them. Thanks Paddi Paddioo@aol.com

    07/18/1999 08:20:45
    1. Re: Genealogy headings
    2. Can anyone verify the web-site listed below? I cannot get it to work. thanks Paddi Paddioo@aol.com

    07/18/1999 07:37:57
    1. Re: [MIEATON-L] Catholic Mariage Records & Church Death REcords
    2. I did some cutting and pasteing here and I do not know why all that "stuff" came with it -- sorry - hope it makes sense - thought it was a good logical article.

    07/17/1999 08:34:41
    1. Catholic Mariage Records & Church Death REcords
    2. | Get Started | Search Center | MyFamily.com | FamilyHistory.com | Learning Center | Shop 'n Save<Picture> THE SOURCE CHAPTER 6: RESEARCH IN CHURCH RECORDS PAGE 150     <Picture>The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy (revised edition) Edited by Loretto Dennis Szucs and Sandra Hargreaves Luebking Copyright ©1997 by Ancestry Incorporated - First Printing ISBN Number 0–916489–67–1 Previous Page | Next Page The United States possesses a tremendous, sometimes bewildering, variety of religious groups that have widely differing record-keeping practices. Nevertheless, certain basic types of records found at the parish, or local, level can be identified. Types of Church Records Baptism and Christening Records Baptism or christening records almost always list at least the name of the person baptized, the date and place of birth, and the date and place of the baptism. For infant baptisms, the pastor usually recorded the parents’ names and often their place of residence, particularly if the pastor was serving a circuit rather than a single parish. Quite often, the register lists the date of birth or at least the age of the person being baptized. In addition, many baptismal records list the names of sponsors or godparents, who are often close relatives of the parents. Figure 6-1 is a transcription of the christening register of Albemarle (Protestant Episcopal) Parish, Surry and Sussex Counties, Virginia, from around 1739–1741. These entries predate the change from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar in September 1752. Before then, the year began on 25 March. Dates between 1 January and 25 March listed both the current and succeeding year—for example, 5 January 1746/47. Under the present calendar this date would be 5 January 1747. The transcriber retained the original double-dating system to avoid confusion. The rector of Albemarle parish, the Reverend William Willie, was an unusually diligent record keeper; on page 384 of the same christening register is a page of unusual entries. Below are three: Suky, f.; o. Col Allen; i. —b. Nov.3, 1774; c. May 14, 1775. Cuba, f.; o. Mrs. Lightfoot; i.—; b. March 31, 1775; c. May 14, 1775. Ede, f.; o. Capt. Thompson; i. —; b. Dec. 1774; c. May 14, 1775. These infants are the children of slaves. The adults listed are not their parents but their owners. Thus, church records can sometimes aid in the extremely difficult task of tracing blacks before the Civil War. A second example, figure 6-2, is from the records of the First English Reformed Church of Baltimore, Maryland, around 1867–1868. This register does not contain as much genealogical information as the Albemarle register, which preceded it by 120 years. It lists no sponsors except the parents themselves. (This situation—later church records providing less information than earlier ones—is by no means unique.) Five baptisms include only the mother as a parent, which does not necessarily mean that she was widowed or that the child was illegitimate but more probably that the mother was the only parent who belonged to that church. Marriage Records The second major type of church records are marriage records. Almost all American denominations have recorded marriages, although there are some interesting exceptions. For instance, the early Puritans viewed marriage as a civil contract. Hence, marriages were performed by a civil magistrate and were not recorded in the church registers. This was not a typical situation, however. In most areas, church marriage records predate civil marriage records by many decades and sometimes even centuries. For instance, South Carolina did not record marriages (except for marriage contracts) at the county or state level until 1911. In such situations, church marriage records acquire greater importance. Church marriage records vary widely in content. Some provide nothing more than the names of the bride and groom and the date. Figure 6-3 is a published transcription of records of the First (Congregational) Church in Huntington, Long Island. This record yields an additional dividend to the genealogist: the pastor recorded the previous residences of the couple. The other extreme is demonstrated by a Roman Catholic marriage register from a parish in south-central Texas (figure 6-4). It records the date of the marriage; the names, ages, residences, birthplaces, and religion of the bride and groom; the occupation of the groom; the place where the ceremony was held; the names and birthplaces of the parents of the nuptial pair; and the name of the officiating priest. As with most Catholic records, these are in Latin, a custom often cited as an obstacle to their use by genealogists. If so, it is a minor obstacle. When the records are in columnar form, as is the case here, you can decipher the Latin headings using common sense and a Latin word list. Admittedly, this example is unusual, especially in listing the parents’ birthplaces. But Catholic, Lutheran, and German Reformed marriage records frequently list the birthplace of the bride and Death Records Church marriage records are often useful in locating an immigrant ancestor’s birthplace, but, in my professional experience, church death registers have been the single most valuable source for tracing an immigrant’s place of birth. Figure 6-5 is an alphabetized translation of the death records of Saint John’s Lutheran Church, Ruma, Illinois. Originally, churches recorded burials rather than deaths, and some churches still do. However, most American church records also list the date of death, and often they record a great deal more information. In one instance, I researched a county history that listed a German immigrant’s birthplace as Gubeardstadt, Prussia. I found no such village in any gazetteer. Fortunately, the county history also stated where the family attended church. A letter to the church (then German Evangelical, now United Church of Christ) produced a photocopy of the pertinent page of the death register, which noted that the individual had been born in Gross Bierstadt in the province of Saxony, Prussia. I then easily located the village using a standard atlas.

    07/17/1999 08:24:07
    1. Re: ILMADISO-D Digest V99 #160 ILLINOIS TERMINAL
    2. Roland Bauer
    3. The Mercantile Library at UMSL has one of the foremost RR collections in the US. Phone the Curator of the RR Collection and I am sure he can give you info or where to go to get it.. I remember a book published about 20 years ago on the IL Terminal and the IL Traction RR. The Curator can give you this info and you might get it on inter Lib Loan. The Mercantile Collections do not circulate but you local lib can find a copy. Cheers!!!! Roland Bauer, Collinsville w9dy@juno.com wrote: > Lynn, Illinois Terminal is not listed in the Chicago phone book. > Someone may be able to look for them in the St. Louis and East St. Louis > phone books. You might have luck at local library if it has a computer > with all US phone books for easy lookup by name or company type. I can't > remember the name of the system that I just described but most libraries > now have this feature. > > Bud Frohardt > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

    07/16/1999 11:44:05
    1. Re: ILMADISO-D Digest V99 #160 ILLINOIS TERMINAL
    2. Yvonne James-Henderson
    3. My husband use to work for the railroad, just outside of East St. Louis, in Lovejoy, Illinois. You might try there for the Illinois Terminal. Thanks and Take care, Yvonne in Burke, VA "homeschooling granny" http://members.tripod.com/~Yvonne_in_VA/homeschool.htm To have the rose, you must respect the thorn. ************************** Viva la USGenWeb Project! Viva la USGenWeb Archives! Freely accessible and searchable! http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ **************************

    07/16/1999 07:54:25
    1. Re: ILMADISO-D Digest V99 #160 ILLINOIS TERMINAL
    2. Lynn, Illinois Terminal is not listed in the Chicago phone book. Someone may be able to look for them in the St. Louis and East St. Louis phone books. You might have luck at local library if it has a computer with all US phone books for easy lookup by name or company type. I can't remember the name of the system that I just described but most libraries now have this feature. Bud Frohardt ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

    07/16/1999 04:23:42
    1. BEEMAN & MOORE
    2. Phyllis J. Bauer
    3. There is a double relation between James BEEMAN who married Nancy MOORE and John MOORE who married Mary BEEMAN. The Beemans were brother and sister as were the Moores. The Moores were also siblings of Abel, William, George Moore who came to IL from NC via KY. Phyllis *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/14/99 at 11:25 PM Carol Ryan-Spenader wrote: >Phyllis > >I read the article on the "Moores" out of NC to KY, but where do the Beemans >come in? My Beamans/Beemans are from Missouri (NC & KY also), so I'm hoping >there is a connection there. > >Thanks, > >Carol > >Phyllis J. Bauer wrote: > >> Thought I'd pass this along, as it might be of interest to someone. I >> received it from a cousin researching the BEEMAN-MOORE line. It is amazing >> how much material is becoming available on the Internet. Phyllis >> --------- >> I've found some interesting items at: www.google.com >> >> Type in "Wood River Massacre" (including the quotation marks) & enter. >> >> It brings you to 5 Alton web sites. I thought you might want to look at >> them. >> >> >> ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Madison County Home Page! >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > > > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received >when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, >list administrator with questions concerning this list! >mailto:hen1@idt.net

    07/15/1999 07:27:39
    1. STEGELMEYER
    2. Karla Nurnberg
    3. Hi, We are looking for information on the Stegelmeyer family, who settled in Madison County, Illinois. My maiden name was Stegelmeier, but in Germany it was spelled Stegelmeyer. My great-grandfather was Carl Friedrich Stegelmeyer. He was born in Isenstedt, Westfalen, Germany in 1834. In our years of research we have found another Stegelmeyer family in Preussisch Oldendorf. Does anyone know where the Madison County group came from in Germany? My family lives in Fremont County in eastern Idaho. Grandpa Otto Stegelmeier came to Chicago area in 1893, but did not like it, so he went on to Idaho. If someone can help me, many thanks. Karla Stegelmeier Nurnberg _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

    07/15/1999 09:04:38
    1. Re: Illinois Terminal
    2. Looking for the address and website for the ILLINOIS TERMINAL in Chicago, or near Chicago. And thank you Helen for your help. Lynn

    07/15/1999 07:04:29
    1. Re: Site that has Alton area items of interest - BEEMAN & MOORE
    2. Carol Ryan-Spenader
    3. Phyllis I read the article on the "Moores" out of NC to KY, but where do the Beemans come in? My Beamans/Beemans are from Missouri (NC & KY also), so I'm hoping there is a connection there. Thanks, Carol Phyllis J. Bauer wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along, as it might be of interest to someone. I > received it from a cousin researching the BEEMAN-MOORE line. It is amazing > how much material is becoming available on the Internet. Phyllis > --------- > I've found some interesting items at: www.google.com > > Type in "Wood River Massacre" (including the quotation marks) & enter. > > It brings you to 5 Alton web sites. I thought you might want to look at > them. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

    07/14/1999 09:25:15
    1. Cemetery in Troy, IL
    2. Doris M. Best
    3. While researching my Dutton roots in Madison County, IL, I found that some of my ancestors are buried in an old cemetery between Troy & St. Jacob. It is now called St. Gilead Cemetery. Late 19th century & early 20th century, parts of it were known as Hediger Cemetery. When we were there, we did see some Renfro graves. We were too upset about the upheaval in the cemetery to take more than notes on my relatives. St. Gilead Cemetery is on the Madison County map.

    07/14/1999 09:10:52
    1. Site that has Alton area items of interest - BEEMAN & MOORE
    2. Phyllis J. Bauer
    3. Thought I'd pass this along, as it might be of interest to someone. I received it from a cousin researching the BEEMAN-MOORE line. It is amazing how much material is becoming available on the Internet. Phyllis --------- I've found some interesting items at: www.google.com Type in "Wood River Massacre" (including the quotation marks) & enter. It brings you to 5 Alton web sites. I thought you might want to look at them.

    07/14/1999 08:11:39