Good Morning Lori, I have a few of those myself. I am finding that German Lutheran middle names came from the first names of the baptismal sponsers of that person. In general, the baptismal sponser was someone related or at least close to the family. I bet, if you look at the immediate relations of the parents of JBB, you will find that one of them is named Bernhardt. If you find the baptismal records, you will probably also find that there were more than one sponsor and that this person has more than one middle name. Regards, --Jon from Philadelphia > ---------- > From: LPELUDAT@aol.com[SMTP:LPELUDAT@aol.com] > Reply To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:48 PM > To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: LUEKER, WITTE, BERNHARDT surnames > > Jon: > > I have John Bernhardt Bertels. Some middle names were Bernhardt??? > > Let me know. > > Lori Arney Peludat > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

Dear "List," Seeking information about ISAAC NEWTON PALMER, born Edwardsville (date of birth unknown) married PAMELIA PARNELL WEBSTER on November 18, 1840. They had a son, MELVILLE MALCOM PALMER, born October 7, 1841. Isaac's wife, Pamelia, died March 28, 1842, and is surely buried somewhere near Edwardsville. It is thought that after the death of his wife, Isaac took his son and went west with his parents, where they raised the child. Any information about Isaac Newton Palmer or his family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! With best wishes, Dotte Schneider

Need some help from some of you who may be researching these surnames or be connected to them in some way. I have more info and willing to share. These Watsons and Robinson bought land in the same time period and area of each other: John Robinson 9/10/1814 Madison Co. Gilbert Watson 11/14/1816 Madison Co. Hugh Watson 2/5/1821 Bond Co. Matthew Robinson 8/18/1821 Bond Co Hugh Robinson 8/18/1821 Bond Co Hugh Watson 1/7/1822 Bond Co William Robinson 8/15/1827 Madison Co Joab Watson 1/11/1833 Madison co. John Watson 10/25/1834 Madison Co. Joab Watson 3/19/1834 Madison Hugh Robinson 12/24/1835 Madison Co James Robinson 12/02/1835 Madison co John Robinson 1/29/1836 Madison Co Joab Watson 2/18/1836 Bond Co Hugh Watson 12/8/1836 Bond Co. William P. Watson 4/3/1837 Madison Co. Joseph Robinson 5/13/1837 Madison Co William P Watson 3/15/1838 Bond co. Hugh Watson 8/10/1838 Bond Co. Andrew Watson 8/10/1838 Bond Co. William P Watson 11/1/1839 Bond Co. Hugh Watson 2/22/1839 Bond Co. Hugh Watson 10/10/1840 Bond Co. William P. Watson 10/10/1840 Bond Co. Fielding Watson 1/1/1840 Bond Co. Andrew Watson 12/20/1852 Madison Co. I believe these county borders changed, so they could all be in the same area. I have Watson who married Robinson. Believe the parents of my Joab Watson and Elizabeth Robinson to be in the group above. Please help if you have any information. I'm stuck here. Thanks Angela

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:39:49 EDT ACSmithRN@aol.com writes: >Marge, my great grandfather was James N. Patton, md. Amanda Tuggle in >Stewart >Co, TN. They are listed in the 1850 Stewart Co, TN census, but then I >can >not find them again. Does your Isaac Patton have a James N. Patton in >his >family tree? Anne > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received >when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, >list administrator with questions concerning this list! >mailto:hen1@idt.net > Anne, I have not found a James but Isaac is listed as having been born in TN on some of the census records that I have. He had brothers of John (10 years older) and twin brothers William & Gideon (8 years younger) so there could easily have been brothers and sisters in between these boys. You do not happen to know the parents of your James do you? The mother of my brothers was Judah but I do not know ther father or her maiden name. She was born in 1795-1800 in VA. Marge mncarr1@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Jon: I have John Bernhardt Bertels. Some middle names were Bernhardt??? Let me know. Lori Arney Peludat

I found an obit for my ggrandmother, Sarah R. (Kerr) Caulk b 1859, which states that she was "baptized in Silver Creek near Silver Creek Christian Church in 1882" I have been searching forever (seems like) for info on this grandmother. Her parents were Andrew and Amanda (Gillard) Kerr, who must have been in the Silver Creek area and then moved to New Douglas. I know New Douglas is in Madison County, is Silver Creek also in Madison County? Is it a town or a creek? Or both? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda Peters

I just joined your list. I'm wondering if anyone has access to an index that lists Madison County marriages 1840-1850. I'm looking for the marriage of JOHN G. KAUFFMAN (Kaufman/Kaufmann) to EVA CHRISTINA BARNFLECT (Brenfleck/Brennfleck). Can anyone help me? Thank you. June Sun City, AZ

Here are the Niepert's listed as being buried in St. John's Cemetery in Granite City, IL. I got these names and dates out of the "Big Book" maintained by the cemetery. Year Name Date Buried 1909 Baby Niepert 4-21 1914 Florence Niepert 10-8 1919 Roland Frank Niepert 1-2 1926 Floyd Niepert 3-18 1928 Frederick A. Niepert 12-11 1935 Letty J. Niepert 4-26 1946 Maude A. Niepert 3-1 1948 Sue Ann Niepert 6-16 1950 William Henry Niepert 2-3 1952 Harold Frank Niepert 7-31 1960 Henry E. Niepert 11-8 submitted by Melinda Elmore

Here are the Elmore's listed as being buried in St. John's Cemetery in Granite City, IL. I got these names and dates out of the "Big Book" maintained by the cemetery. Year Name Date Buried 1919 Lola Elmore 3-2 1921 Baby Elmore 8-15 1924 Buelah G. Elmore 8-17 1929 Belle Elmore 2-22 1938 Thomas Elmore 10-29 1943 Charles Elmore 12-21 1945 Michael G. Elmore 12-31 1947 Nancy Elmore 8-16 1957 Mabel Elmore 12-24 1967 John Frederick Elmore 7-24 1986 Marvin L. Elmore 1-10 submitted by Melinda Elmore

I just got a marriage record from IRAD of the marriage of my great-uncle Adolph Blume in Highland, IL. Only problem is it lists the brides' name as Emma HIDGER, while her father's name is written HEDIGER. She was Highland born and breed so, assuming the name is still present in the area, can anyone from around there tell me which spelling is more likely to be correct? ---------------------- Judith Hepburn hepburnj@bc.edu Boston College

Madison County IRAD location: Illinois Regional Archives Depository c/o Special Collections Morris Library--6632 Southern Illinois University Carbondale, IL 62901 (Phone: 618-453-3040)

Go to the Site, www.altonweb.com, then click on history, then civil war.

Madison County

Thanks, very much. Cathy

IRAD has seven regions. Post the county you're interested in & I'll give you the address.

<A HREF="http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/data_loc.html">The Illinois Regional Archives Depository System</A> Maybe this will help Good Luck

Does anyone have the address of IRAD in IL? and how do you use it? Cathy

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CDFFE8D1A3D855997F017D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------CDFFE8D1A3D855997F017D40 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: StLouis-MO-L-request@rootsweb.com Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by postal.accessus.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA38204 for <rrbauer@accessus.net>; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:06:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08696; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: SweetJazz5@aol.com Message-ID: <eecf9cc2.24ed5920@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:57:04 EDT Subject: Mo records free Old-To: Stlouis-Mo-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <CmhOOD.A.oHC.g-_u3@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/5510 X-Loop: StLouis-MO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: StLouis-MO-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi everyone, I saw this on another list: Ancestry has put their Missouri records out there free until August 20th. http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/modata.htm I am behind in my reading so don't know if someone already posted this. Jazz --------------CDFFE8D1A3D855997F017D40--

I have a few Patton's in Hardin Co., IL. See our site(s) at http://www.pond.net/~hmds/play/ and http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/v/Jack-D-Davis/ See the report "Descendants of Asa Davis and........." If you are using Netscape, you can go to the edit menu and click on "Find in page" and type "Patton" to find them quickly. Jack D. Davis Mncarr1996@aol.com wrote: > No James PATTON at that date that I have found as yet. I am still looking > for the father of Isaac, but I do have a mother(?) Judah. And I have > possible brothers of John b. 1818 and William & Gideon b. 1834. > > Marge > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Search the Rootsweb Resources Page for Madison County! > Includes several Madison Co search engines! > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/IL/Madison/

Hi, Is Highland In Madison Co IL?? Does anyone know anything about a STALEY FAMILY? I am looking for information on LEMUEL GRAY STALEY b. ?? d ?? Wife-- VICTORIA SOPHIA GEGG b May 27 1880 in Weingarten, Mo--Ste Genevieve Co and died 9 Dec 1965 at St Joseph Hospital -- In Highland IL I would like to know mar date and any information on this Family. Thank you any help is appreciated Joyce in Mo