Hi to all! For those of you with interests in Jefferson County, Missouri, I thought I would update you and let you know that on Monday, I uploaded the surnames beginning with "R" to the cemetery transcriptions. I have also posted a new issue of "Charlotte's Corner." Please stop by if you are researching in Jefferson County! There have also been some new surnames added to the Surname List. I'm still job-hunting, so am not sure when I'll get the "S" surnames posted, but am working on them as I can. Take care and good luck in your searches! Patty Frazer County Coordinator Jefferson County MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mojeffer/index.html MOJEFFER List Owner; PAUBEL List Owner; MARCOUX List Owner; MARCUE List Owner Personal Home Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pfrazer/index.html

hello-list members-this is my first time on this list-hope you may be able to help me. alexander furguson currie 28 july 1982/5 nov 1970 m.thelma clara josephine lautz 14 dec 1900/30 march 1936 they had three girls: 1.thelma-1918 2.jeannette-1921 3 jewell-1923 this family lived in granite city il. alexander had three brothers and one sister 1.james 2.charles 3.robert 4.hazel looking for parents of both alexander currie and thelma lautz. t is believed that they are both burried somewhere in st. louis. johni

Hi Patty, Noticed that you are doing the Jefferson County MO pages. Wanted to let you know that I have been a long time list member of ILMadison county and we've now started a community site at http://www.metrostlouis.com We want to bring more history to the site. If we can help promote the GenWeb project at the site, please let us know. Thanks, Victoria Hunt

You might try the Dick Blick art store located in Fairview Heights. -----Original Message----- From: Marennad@aol.com [mailto:Marennad@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Saving old prints etc. They tell me that good stationary stores have them. I have not found anything useful in the big chains however. Maybe even good art supply stores would have the needed items for preserving. ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== The RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative is supported by its users: RootsWeb would cease to exist if not for the support of folks like you. By becoming a Member, Sponsor, or Donor, you help RootsWeb provide Web and FTP space on thousands of genealogical topics, mailing lists for thousands of groups of genealogists with shared interests, and search engines to make huge amounts of genealogical data freely available to Internet genealogists. Become A Rootsweb Sponser Today! http://www.rootsweb.com/

I, for one, thank you for all this information. I have a question. Where does one find the buffered paper and folders? You have provided the names in paragraph #7, but is there a special kind of store where they are available? I live in Southern California. Thanks for any help. Billie Rood brood@tfb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Marennad@aol.com> To: <ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:36 PM Subject: Saving old prints etc.

They tell me that good stationary stores have them. I have not found anything useful in the big chains however. Maybe even good art supply stores would have the needed items for preserving.

--part1_c6191a8a.24fe7e70_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/1/99, DW in MN writes: >This is merely an article about Alton that appeared in our local paper >(Minneapolis Star-Trib.). Nothing here about genealogy but if you plan >to ever visit it may be of interest to you. Well the HTML coded ("clickable") reference did not present itself on the digest list for ILMADISO so if you are interested in seeing the little travel article re Alton go to the newspaper's web page: (http://www.startribune.com/), Then do a search for "ALTON" and, Then read the entries for Aug. 29th. DW in MN --part1_c6191a8a.24fe7e70_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ILMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 01:22:02 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 01:21:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07107; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: ILMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909010521.WAA07107@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Subject: ILMADISO-D Digest V99 #215 X-Loop: ILMADISO-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILMADISO-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/215 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: ILMADISO-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com - ---------------------------- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain ILMADISO-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 215 Today's Topics: #1 Check out "Getaway/Midwest: Alton, [DRWGen@aol.com] #2 Re: BEALL [w9dy@juno.com] #3 Saving old prints etc. [Marennad@aol.com] Administrivia: Administrivia: Please consider supporting RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html To unsubscribe from ILMADISO-D, send a message to ILMADISO-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ --------------------

Have you tried for Edmund's birth in Montgomery Co., MD? That area is full of Beall's. Gloria

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Jim, I can only give you a little bit of info on the Bealls but sometimes it is all one needs to proceed further. There was a William Beall in Granite City, Madison Co. IL. He ran the Granite City Building and Loan Company or maybe it was called the Tri-City Bldg & Loan. This was in the thirties. He was of an age that would have put him born about 1900 or earlier. I know nothing of his family or anything else. My parents were clients of his, I think. Good Luck, Bud Frohardt ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Click Here: <A HREF="http://www.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=GETA0829&da te=29-Aug-1999&word=alton">Getaway/Midwest: Alton, Ill.</A> This is merely an article about Alton that appeared in our local paper (Minneapolis Star-Trib.). Nothing here about genealogy but if you plan to ever visit it may be of interest to you. Be sure to click the "Related Items" also that were a part of last Sunday's newspaper. DW in MN

The Madison County Genealogical Society does not have a physical location, which is why our address is a Post Office box. We have a genealogical room at the Edwardsville Public Library in Edwardsville, IL where we keep our research material including microfilm of the Edwardsville newspapers (the Spectator and then the Intelligencer) back into the early 1800's. There is a microfilm reader/printer available in the room. Other materials include information on surrounding counties, many of the "immigrant" books (such as the Germans to America series, Italians to America series, etc.), old atlases, a vertical file of miscellaneous articles, family histories that have been donated, publications from many other societies both in Illinois, Missouri and other states, and many other items. The room is staffed by volunteers, usually a few hours every week day. We meet on the second Thursday of every month at 7 pm at the Immanuel United Methodist Church, 800 N. Main St., Edwardsville, IL. Our May meeting is held in the Edwardsville Public Library. A short business meeting is followed by a program relating to an historical or genealogical aspect of interest to the members. Members and non-members are always welcome. Our web site can be found at http://www.plantnet.com/mcgs. As with any non-profit organization, we are made up of volunteers. Some of us are on this mailing list and try to answer the questions as they come up. We have many projects in the works including our 11th cemetery book and a transcription of the difficult to read 1870 census. If you are traveling from another state to do research here, please notify us in advance and maybe we can make your trip more helpful. I can't promise anything as we are volunteers, but we are willing to try. We are often confused with the Madison County Historical Society, operators of the Madison County Historical Museum, who also have and excellent research room in the museum and they are also able to help with research. Their address and phone number are: 715 North Main Street; Edwardsville, IL 62025; (618) 656-7562. I enjoy the helpful information from this list and the society even though none of my ancestors are from Madison County. I rely on others to help me with my research in another Illinois county so I understand long distance research and some of its frustrations. I hope the information has cleared up some misunderstandings. Mary Westerhold

Melinda wrote>>> This is the (renamed) state hospital in Alton. Ask for the superintendent's office and speak to the head secretary. If you are lucky, she'll be helpful. If it turns out you need the old TB hospital you may have more trouble finding someone who can help you, but in that case I'd start with the Public Health Dept of the state, which would mean calling Springfield. Good luck.--Melinda (mental health employee from Missouri) Alton Mental Health Center Thomas H. Johnson 4500 College Avenue<<<<< Thank you for your help, and suggestions. Cathy

This is very interesting, since I was going to join, maybe I can't get in. Dixie Johnson

I now live in Florida, so while visiting relatives in St.Louis last month, I made quite a few trips to Illinois to do research on my family. I wanted to stop by the Madison County Genealogical Society, but I couldn't find anyone who could tell me where it was and your address is a post office box. I even asked at the Hayner Library in Alton, but no one there knew where it was. Someone said they thought it was in Edwardsville, but they weren't sure. It was very frustrating. Where are you located? Perhaps that's some of the problem. Judy Clark-Wick JWick@compuserve.com

To Jim Beall: I noticed your query about Edmond Beall. I was wondering if you knew that there is a bed & breakfast inn called the Beall Mansion in Alton, Illinois. I stayed there a few weeks ago while conducting research in the area. The brochure says the following: "Designed as a private residence by one of the most renown and prolific architects of his day, Lucas Pfeiffenberger, the 6,300 square foot mansion (plus 2,400 square foot basement) was originally built in 1902-1903 for railroad and river boat magnate and quarry owner Z.B. Job. Edmond Beall purchased the property from Mr. Job's widow on February 5, 1909 for the sum of $20,000. It has been known as the BEALL MANSION ever since. In 1872 Edmond Beall and his brother, Charles, pooled $75 to cofound Beall Brothers Manufacturing. By 1907 they had built their enterprise into the largest manufacturer of miner's tools and heavy equipment in the United States. mr. Beall was also President of the Home Building and Loan Association of Alton. The Honorable Mr. Beall served as Alderman of the 4th ward for 14 years, was the first three term Mayor of Alton from 1905-1911, and State Senator from the 47th District 1912-1916. Senator Beall went on to be elected Mayor of Alton again in 1914 and to serve for an unprecedented fourth term from 1915-1917. "He is considered the man who pulled Alton out of the mud by spearheading the paving of streets and roads throughout the city." This information came from the Centennial History of Madison County, Volume II, published 1912, pgs 852-855." The current owners of the mansion are Jim and Sandy Belote and they are very interested in the Beall history. You might contact them at their email address to see if they have any info on your Beall ancestor. Their address is: bepampered@beallmansion.com Marilyn Lane Researching Burkhart, Heberer and Kromer in Madison County, IL "I am new to the list and seeking the parents and/or siblings of Edmund Beall. He was born ca 1791 in MD; married 22 Jun 1813 to Elizabeth Hines in Washington, Co, MD. They lived in Cincinnati, OH from 1819 to 1837. Edmund was a cabinet maker, and moved his family to Alton City, Madison Co, IL as shown in 1840 and 1850 census. Could Edmund be the son of Basil and Arianna Beall and brother of William Brook Beall? Thanks for any information on Edmund Beall. Jim Beall"

On this Madison County site--just click on "Madison County Genealogical Society". The opening page lists the goals of the society and at the bottom of the page--it tells that the society's collection of material is at the Edwardsville Public Library. And then if you click on library----you will find more information about the Edwardsville Public Library, it's address, and the hours the library is open!

At this time, I have no interest in joining MCGS because I can find more on Madison County at the Belleville Public Library than in the MCGS holdings at the Edw. Public Library. I've been able to find only a very limited amount of information on Venice which was one of the earliest areas to be settled. Where are all of the really old records? Maybe someone from the MCGS should be online providing tips on how to find information. It would certainly spark interest in getting a membership. Karen Roland Bauer wrote: > > TO THE MADISON COUNTY LIST and MADISON COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY: > > I am writing the Madison County List in hopes of reaching some the > members of the Madison County Genealogical Society and bring a rather > distressing situation to light. > > Illinois and Madison and St. Clair Counties were well represented at the > recent Conference in St. Louis. One of the main topics of this group > was the unhappy situation at the Madison County Genealogical Society. I > have been a member since it began about 20 years ago. At one time we had > over 400 members, many active local members and always 60-75 at the > monthly meeting. > > There appears to have been a substantial number of "non renewals" as > the 1998 Fall Quarterly lists only about 100 local members. There are > in addition about 30 local life members. What seem to be the problem and > what can long time members do to improve the situation? Any > suggestions? > > I found what I appeared to me to be a problem in the library account > when I did the audit for several Treasurers for different years and > made suggestions but that was a few years ago. > > Those of us who were active workers, officers, etc. in those early > growing years are very concerned, especially after some of the remarks I > heard at the conference. We worked hard during those years and I, for > one, hate to see our organization founder when most others are > increasing in size and importance. Although I have not been active in > the Madison County Society since I went into the chairs at the > Illinois State Society, I would be glad to help in any way. I am sure > others would step forward, if they are asked. > > Does the Society want help or are they happy to become a small club with > a few select members? > > I don't know who or how many are on the Madison County List. Therefore > in the interest of promoting the MCGS I am sending a copy of this > letter via S-mall to the officers of the MCGS and a few other > appropriate people. > > Please send me your opinion!! > > ROLAND BAUER > #22 Briarcliff > Collinsville, IL 62234 > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the Rootsweb Resources Page for Madison County! > Includes several Madison Co search engines! > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/IL/Madison/ > Visit the Madison County Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

You must have written to the wrong post office box because I receive all the mail to the society. We answer all letters with a SASE! and in most cases, we answer those who weren't considerate enough to send a SASE and if they have an e-mail address--we will e-mail them too!

This is the (renamed) state hospital in Alton. Ask for the superintendent's office and speak to the head secretary. If you are lucky, she'll be helpful. If it turns out you need the old TB hospital you may have more trouble finding someone who can help you, but in that case I'd start with the Public Health Dept of the state, which would mean calling Springfield. Good luck.--Melinda (mental health employee from Missouri) Alton Mental Health Center Thomas H. Johnson 4500 College Avenue Alton, IL 62002-5099   phone: 618:474-3209 fax: 618:474-4800 ---------- >From: Robbo1965@aol.com >To: ILMADISO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Alton, IL >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 1237 > > Carol wrote in response to my question: > > <<<<<Cathy - I can't help you with a name. I know that there was a sanitarium > because my father's first wife died in one. Why don't you try searching the > AOL member directory and see if you can find someone in Alton that is of an > age to recall that time period. Just a thought.>>>>>>> > > Carol > > Carol, > > Thank you very much, I never thought of going to AOL member directory for > answers. As always this list has great ideas. > > Cathy > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Search the Rootsweb Resources Page for Madison County! > Includes several Madison Co search engines! > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/IL/Madison/ > >