Does anyone know if the Wood Cemetery is inventoried? It is located 1/2 mile west of the Troy-O'Fallon Road and 1 mile south of the town of Troy. This would be in the S/2 of Section 16-3N-7W, Jarvis Township.

In a message dated 1/30/02 10:24:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > The street names that > precede my g-grandparents entry were Front St. and Walnut St. Does anybody > know where this elusive street may have been? > If my memory serves me correctly, Front St. is below Broadway, very near the river. Hope this helps. Carol Carol Robertson Sierra Vista, AZ Please visit my website: <A HREF="http://www.carolscarvings.homestead.com/CarolsCarvings.html">http://www.CarolsCarvings.homestead.com/CarolsCarvings.html</A>

Good morning. Can you help? We can't find JOACHIM BORCHWARDT's birth place in Germany or Prussia. He is buried in St. Johns United Church of Christ, Granite City, Madison County. His grave stone says died Dec 31, 1885, born July 21, 1842. We believe from other information that the birth date MAY be calculated from age at death, namely 43 years, 5 months, 10 days. He applied for naturalization in 1873 and was naturalized in 1876. He signed that he gave up any allegiance to the "Emperor of Germany." The application says that he had been in Madison county for about three years, thus would have come about 1870. The 1880 census lists him as being from "Prussia." Some references are for Joseph instead of Joachim. There are christenings in the St. Johns United Church of Christ for children in 1872 and 1875 which lists the mother (wife of Joachim) as Christina Schmidt. Christina died sometime between 1880 - 1884, Joachim (sometimes Joseph) married (in St. Louis) again 30 June 1884 to Anna Elizabeth Biesterfeldt Curiously there is another Christina Borchwardt buried in the St. Johns graveyard. She was born and died (as an infant) in 1867. She is in a different plot than Joachim. OK? With that as background does anyone in the Madison Co. community have any clues to immigration of Joachim, or other similar or related families, or church groups, or, or, or . . .? Thanx for any help ================================ Don Dickason Searching for family names: Dickason, Hamilton, Cadwal(l)ader, Wisely, Steinberg, Borchward(t), Biesterfeld(t), Blair

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Yes, Second Street was renamed Broadway which became the main thoroughfare in Alton for some time. Walnut Street no longer exists at its previous location. The streets are numbered streets from Broadway, Third, Fourth, etc. There is no First Street in Alton. Good Luck, Sharlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Holl <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] 2nd Street in Alton? > In looking at 1880 census records, I discovered that my g-grandparents had > lived on 2nd Street in Alton. I find no 2nd Street on current maps. Could > 2nd Street have been renamed Broadway at a later date? The street names that > precede my g-grandparents entry were Front St. and Walnut St. Does anybody > know where this elusive street may have been? > > Scott Holl > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm >

In looking at 1880 census records, I discovered that my g-grandparents had lived on 2nd Street in Alton. I find no 2nd Street on current maps. Could 2nd Street have been renamed Broadway at a later date? The street names that precede my g-grandparents entry were Front St. and Walnut St. Does anybody know where this elusive street may have been? Scott Holl

As a general follow-up to Scott's request about 2nd Street being the former name of the now Broadway, there are several streets which have changed names through the years. One that comes to mind is the now Royal Street. In former days I believe it had a name which started with the letter "T". My gr-grandparents lived on this street and when it changed to Royal, I learned that they really didn't move at all. This is probably true in towns around the country. Don't think that the family moved when in reality the street name could have been changed and the family was still in the same ol' house. Best bet is when a street doesn't appear on today's map, then locate a map of the town around the period in question. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

Is anyone searching Millers from the St. Jacob area? The names I'm searching are: Clara Miller - her children are: Charles Miller (I also have seen his name as Carl) his wife's name is Maria, John Miller his wife's name is Christine, Theodore Miller, Mary Ann Miller her husband is John Meyer, Katherine Miller, Joseph Miller his wife's name is Elizabeth. This family is in this area approximately from 1835 to 1840's. If anyone can help me out on this line please let me know and am willing to exchange info. Thanks in advance. Betty [email protected]

Hi all, Two sites to check out: GenTalk.org http://www.gentalk.org GenHelp.org http://www.genhelp.org Hope these help! Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com WebWide Surname Locator http://surnames.obitlinkspage.com

Gail, There are many variations in the spelling of Göppert/Geppert/Goeppert. I have found some germany data bases that spelled the surname all three different ways in the same family. The MILAN passenger list just spelled it Goppert without the umlaut. GERMANS TO AMERICA spelled it Coppert. As all records were handwritten at that time, it would be easy for the recorder to write what he thought he saw or heard. I am leaning toward someone who probably stayed in the St. Louis area. Frank [email protected] wrote: > > Frank, > > This is a shot in the dark. My Brunner family came from Germany in 1852 > through New Orleans. I have that a Eva Brunner married a Matt Gopfert and > she died in White Oak, Ohio. The name is so close to yours I thought my > spelling could be wrong. I only know that the Brunner's were from the > Landau-on-the-Rhine Bavaria. Southern Germany. I don't know anything else > about Eva except her parents and siblings names. Our Brunner family settled > in Kansas City, MO. > > Gail > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: > [email protected] > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D.

Frank, This is a shot in the dark. My Brunner family came from Germany in 1852 through New Orleans. I have that a Eva Brunner married a Matt Gopfert and she died in White Oak, Ohio. The name is so close to yours I thought my spelling could be wrong. I only know that the Brunner's were from the Landau-on-the-Rhine Bavaria. Southern Germany. I don't know anything else about Eva except her parents and siblings names. Our Brunner family settled in Kansas City, MO. Gail

I am searching for the village of origination of my great grandfather (Frank Geppert/Franz Göppert) who arrived at the Port of New Orleans in December 1851. He sailed aboard the MILAN out of the port of Bremen. His records only say Germany and Prussia. He immigrated to the metropolitan St. Louis area. First settling on a farm in Madison County, and later being a saloon keeper in East St. Louis, St. Clair County. He must have had contact with residents of that area before emigrating. I would like to hear from any one whose ancestors emigrated from Germany to the greater St. Louis area from 1840 to 1855. The purpose is to get their villages. This may help me in my search, as his ships passenger list only says Germany. His naturalization papers only say that he was giving up allegiance to the King of Prussia. Thanks Frank Geppert <[email protected]>

This new virus looks more like a link to a webpage, not like the previous ones which LOOK LIKE attachments. Many of us dummies think there is nothing wrong clicking on a site address. It has been thought safe to go to a web page but if you click on this "web url" you find out it is a bad attachment not a safe web site. myparty.yahoo.com So, DO NOT click on an attachment which looks like a web page site. At 09:40 PM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: >The subject of this mass mailing worm varies. IT WILL NOT ALWAYS >SAY "MY >PARTY". look for the led.exe label on the attachment. That is >the clue >that you are in contact with the W32.LED worm. Do not open the >attachment. >Delete it immediately and you should be fine. Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gloria Frazier" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:53 PM >Subject: [ILMADISO-L] WARNING! MYPARTY VIRUS > > > > Note that in this virus, the attachment looks like a webpage so the > > virus is VERY DECEIVING!!! > > I am trying to get to as many people as possible so some of you are > > going to receive more than once. > > gloria > > ------------------------------------------- > > MYPARTY VIRUS > > The latest virus infecting computers worldwide is W32\Myparty, a > > malicious > > computer worm that propagates through an e-mail attachment by > > masquerading as a web page link of photographs from a party. The > > name of > > the apparent web page is myparty.yahoo.com. > > The text accompanying the attachment reads: > > Hello! My party ... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my > > web page > > with new photos! If you can, please make color prints of my photos. > > Thanks! > > The worm spreads upon execution by sending itself to every e-mail > > address > > in the infected computer user's Microsoft Outlook address book. > > E-mails received through the Outlook system should already have had > > this > > file removed. However, if you are using a third party e-mail > > system, such > > as Hotmail, to receive e-mails and you receive one with similar > text, > > please delete it without clicking on any web pages or attachments. > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google >+Search > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >LDS Family Search Engine: >http://www.familysearch.org/ >Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages >and Civil War soldiers: >http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

The subject of this mass mailing worm varies. IT WILL NOT ALWAYS SAY "MY PARTY". look for the led.exe label on the attachment. That is the clue that you are in contact with the W32.LED worm. Do not open the attachment. Delete it immediately and you should be fine. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Frazier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:53 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] WARNING! MYPARTY VIRUS > Note that in this virus, the attachment looks like a webpage so the > virus is VERY DECEIVING!!! > I am trying to get to as many people as possible so some of you are > going to receive more than once. > gloria > ------------------------------------------- > MYPARTY VIRUS > The latest virus infecting computers worldwide is W32\Myparty, a > malicious > computer worm that propagates through an e-mail attachment by > masquerading as a web page link of photographs from a party. The > name of > the apparent web page is myparty.yahoo.com. > The text accompanying the attachment reads: > Hello! My party ... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my > web page > with new photos! If you can, please make color prints of my photos. > Thanks! > The worm spreads upon execution by sending itself to every e-mail > address > in the infected computer user's Microsoft Outlook address book. > E-mails received through the Outlook system should already have had > this > file removed. However, if you are using a third party e-mail > system, such > as Hotmail, to receive e-mails and you receive one with similar text, > please delete it without clicking on any web pages or attachments. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search

Note that in this virus, the attachment looks like a webpage so the virus is VERY DECEIVING!!! I am trying to get to as many people as possible so some of you are going to receive more than once. gloria ------------------------------------------- MYPARTY VIRUS The latest virus infecting computers worldwide is W32\Myparty, a malicious computer worm that propagates through an e-mail attachment by masquerading as a web page link of photographs from a party. The name of the apparent web page is myparty.yahoo.com. The text accompanying the attachment reads: Hello! My party ... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my web page with new photos! If you can, please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! The worm spreads upon execution by sending itself to every e-mail address in the infected computer user's Microsoft Outlook address book. E-mails received through the Outlook system should already have had this file removed. However, if you are using a third party e-mail system, such as Hotmail, to receive e-mails and you receive one with similar text, please delete it without clicking on any web pages or attachments.

Are there any County Death or Marriage indexes for Madison County for the time period of about 1860 - 1920? I've looked in the on-line State Marriage index and didn't find what I need. Thanks. Ed

Also, if you haven't done an LDS person search, I did one for the birth of Zelma Kaiser and found several. Spellings varied to Selma and Keiser and Kizer. However the ones found where mostly from Ohio but if her birthdate is needed, this might be something for you to check. One of those listed MIGHT be her. Obviously, you cannot do a marriage search after 1900 because of privacy concerns. (Unless the 1900 date has been moved forward...not sure). Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Marriage Lookup > I can't help with an actual marriage date, but my 1927 Alton City Directory > lists > John A. Mosby (Zelma) 1b emp Laclede Steel Co. res 1803 Belle. > So Marriage was before 1927, with a child listed in 1927 strongly suggests > marriage 1926 or earlier. Not what you wanted, but a hint. Hope it is at > least a little useful > > TOM SAXTON > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Madison County maillist archives; enter the word ilmadiso here: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILMADISO > Find the names of other maillists to search: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ >

I can't help with an actual marriage date, but my 1927 Alton City Directory lists John A. Mosby (Zelma) 1b emp Laclede Steel Co. res 1803 Belle. So Marriage was before 1927, with a child listed in 1927 strongly suggests marriage 1926 or earlier. Not what you wanted, but a hint. Hope it is at least a little useful TOM SAXTON

I am needing to find marriage information on a Zelma Kaiser (1895-1975) and an (unknown) Mosby/Moseby in Alton, IL or surrounding area. I want to say the marriage took place between 1925ish and 1930ish. Thank you for your time