Deone Forgot to tell you something you might be interested in. My dad's father was raised in Alton. He was one of 12 children born to John and Rosa Boschert Girth. The Boschert's were associated with St. Mary's Church and of course burials in St. Joseph's Cemetery. You may recognize the Boschert and/or Girth family. My grandparents lived in several places in Alton before they moved to Bunker Hill in 1936. My dad and his twin were born in 1922 on Washington Avenue just a few blocks up from Broadway. His youngest sister was born in 1934 on Virginia Avenue which is a one block street next to St. Anthony's Hospital over by St. Joseph's Cemetery. His middle sister was born on Delmar. I'd have to get her birth certificate out but I believe the address was in the 200 block. Don't know if it was west or east. She was born in 1930. So you may have made contact with them while visiting. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Deone I don't recognize Nicholas Zerwas but I do recognize the Zerwas name. My dad's paternal grandmother came from a Catholic family and they all use St. Joseph's Cemetery. I believe that's where I've seen the name. I've got a copy of the burial records of St. Joseph's Cemetery (it helps to know the right connections) and if I can locate it I'll look up the Zerwas burials. The listing was sent to me several years by the sexton for the Madison County Genealogical Society. I retyped all the entries into a special database. After that I was able to print it two ways - alphabetical and by grave. Even unmarked burials are included although not marked as you just have to go to the lot and look at it. The Society was given permission to place it in their holdings at the Edwardsville Public Library. As cemetery chairperson I kept a copy so that if the one disappeared. If I can get my other computer (Apple Mac) to come up I can go into the files that way too. I've been having problems with getting it started after letting it set for so long. Hopefully I can get it up and going so I can transfer the other files over to the computer I use (a Gateway). I got 75% of the files transferred and thought the other 25% would transfer without problems but it took me a while to figure why they didn't and now that I know what to do it will be a piece of pie. Check in with me periodically (once every 2 weeks or so) to see if I located the book or got into the other computer. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Debbi, They were Catholic. One of my grandmother's cousins was a priest. And when I visited them as a young girl I always went to mass with my great aunt. This was still in the 30's. The family came to the states in 1852 and settled in the Collinsville, Alton, Godfry area. It depends upon the family and/or the time frame. But the Delmar address was lived in from 1875 to well into the 1970's. If you live in the area you may have heard of the Nicolas Zerwas family. By the by--Vikki is my daughter. I use her computer since we live together. I am, Deone Ferry Wiley ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi Geer Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] CATHOLIC CEMETERIES Vicki Depends on the time period for 224 West Delmar. I would say in the old days the address was within the Sts Peter and Paul parish area. It probably still is today, but St Ambrose is only a couple of blocks over and when St Ambrose parish was created. I would say that prior to St Ambrose's existence that those in Godfrey were members of Sts Peter and Paul. With the creation the parish area was changed but where the line was drawn I don't know. Just because you're closer to one church than another doesn't mean that your residence is within the parish of the closer one. Also there's also reason to believe that some older members may have refused to go to the church when the parish area was changed. Where I go to now there are even younger families staying with our parish and driving through several other parishes to go to our church and associate within the various groups of our parish. In conclusion I would start with Sts Peter and Paul and if records can't be found there then go to St Mary's. If records aren't in either then there's a possibility that they didn't go to church and wasn't buried in a Catholic cemetery especially in the old days when you had to be Catholic in order to be buried in a Catholic cemetery which was considered sacred grounds. Of course, now a days things have changed. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. http://www.cyndislist.com/

Searching any information on the death and cemetery of Elmer D. Porter. He was still alive in 1903, when he married. He lived in East Alton or Alton Ilinois. He may have been divorced and remarried later. HIs mother was Ellen Stahl who remarried to John C. Frank. Elmer had Stahl relatives in Alton, some other related names were: Hutchinson, Tungett, maybe Goadly. Since Elmer was an only child by Ellen's first married to David R. Porter, Elmer may have lived more around the Stahl's and Frank's. Elmer was a baby when Ellen married John Frank. Charles Edward Stahl was an uncle who died in Alton on Feb 4 1941. Another aunt was Martha Stahl and James Charles. Please contact me if any names sound familiar. I do not have access to Alton City Directory and do not live in Ilinois thank you Pat

In a message dated 2/13/02 6:09:11 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Socony-Vacuum Sounds correct. Mobil Oil operated an oil refinery in East St. > Louis until 1972 or 1973. >

Try "Socony-Vacuum" at google.com; it was an early name for what was until recently Mobil Oil. At 2/13/2002 07:06 PM, Marsha Ensminger <[email protected]> wrote: >A friend is puzzling over the place of employment on an SS-5 he >received. It looks like "Bacony-Vacuum Oil Co", but he's not sure. It >was located at 20th St & IC tracks, East St. Louis (I know, wrong >county, but maybe someone here will remember the place.) I was >wondering if the first word could have been Socony (now Mobil). >A search for "Bacony-Vacuum" at google came up with nothing. >Thanks for any assistance. > >===== >Marsha L. Ensminger >searching for Westerhold/t/z in the US and ?

I got this from Map quest. I typed in your address and you can search for businesses/churches etc. First Church of Christ 1430 W Delmar Ave Godfrey, IL 62035 618-466-7018 Jim Thank you. Another question. Do you know which church in Alton is closest to 224West Delmar in Godfrey? ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi Geer Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] CATHOLIC CEMETERIES Vicki Cemeteries - Alton - St Joseph's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton) Godfrey - St Patrick's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton - about 10 years ago St Patrick's Catholic Church was closed and combined with St Mary's, all records going over to St Mary's) Collinsville - Sts Peter and Paul Cemetery (records at Sts Peter and Paul Catholic Church on Vandalia Street in Collinsville) Other Catholic churches - Alton - St Matthew's (on Milton Road) Alton - Sts Peter and Paul (on State Street) (still referred to as "Old Cathedral" as it was the see of the Alton Diocese which was the predessor of the now Springfield Diocese) Godfrey - St Ambrose (on Homer Adams Parkway or IL 3) Debbi Geer Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search

Thank you. Another question. Do you know which church in Alton is closest to 224West Delmar in Godfrey? ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi Geer Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] CATHOLIC CEMETERIES Vicki Cemeteries - Alton - St Joseph's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton) Godfrey - St Patrick's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton - about 10 years ago St Patrick's Catholic Church was closed and combined with St Mary's, all records going over to St Mary's) Collinsville - Sts Peter and Paul Cemetery (records at Sts Peter and Paul Catholic Church on Vandalia Street in Collinsville) Other Catholic churches - Alton - St Matthew's (on Milton Road) Alton - Sts Peter and Paul (on State Street) (still referred to as "Old Cathedral" as it was the see of the Alton Diocese which was the predessor of the now Springfield Diocese) Godfrey - St Ambrose (on Homer Adams Parkway or IL 3) Debbi Geer Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

A friend is puzzling over the place of employment on an SS-5 he received. It looks like "Bacony-Vacuum Oil Co", but he's not sure. It was located at 20th St & IC tracks, East St. Louis (I know, wrong county, but maybe someone here will remember the place.) I was wondering if the first word could have been Socony (now Mobil). A search for "Bacony-Vacuum" at google came up with nothing. Thanks for any assistance. ===== Marsha L. Ensminger searching for Westerhold/t/z in the US and ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Vicki Depends on the time period for 224 West Delmar. I would say in the old days the address was within the Sts Peter and Paul parish area. It probably still is today, but St Ambrose is only a couple of blocks over and when St Ambrose parish was created. I would say that prior to St Ambrose's existence that those in Godfrey were members of Sts Peter and Paul. With the creation the parish area was changed but where the line was drawn I don't know. Just because you're closer to one church than another doesn't mean that your residence is within the parish of the closer one. Also there's also reason to believe that some older members may have refused to go to the church when the parish area was changed. Where I go to now there are even younger families staying with our parish and driving through several other parishes to go to our church and associate within the various groups of our parish. In conclusion I would start with Sts Peter and Paul and if records can't be found there then go to St Mary's. If records aren't in either then there's a possibility that they didn't go to church and wasn't buried in a Catholic cemetery especially in the old days when you had to be Catholic in order to be buried in a Catholic cemetery which was considered sacred grounds. Of course, now a days things have changed. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

I would also be interested in this information. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vikki Liles <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] CATHOLIC CEMETERIES > Could anyone tell me the names of the Catholic cemeteries in Alton, Godfrey, and Collinsville area with interrments between 1850-1925? Also the Catholic churches in these areas. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm >

Vicki Cemeteries - Alton - St Joseph's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton) Godfrey - St Patrick's Cemetery (records at St Mary's Catholic Church on Henry Street in Alton - about 10 years ago St Patrick's Catholic Church was closed and combined with St Mary's, all records going over to St Mary's) Collinsville - Sts Peter and Paul Cemetery (records at Sts Peter and Paul Catholic Church on Vandalia Street in Collinsville) Other Catholic churches - Alton - St Matthew's (on Milton Road) Alton - Sts Peter and Paul (on State Street) (still referred to as "Old Cathedral" as it was the see of the Alton Diocese which was the predessor of the now Springfield Diocese) Godfrey - St Ambrose (on Homer Adams Parkway or IL 3) Debbi Geer Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Could anyone tell me the names of the Catholic cemeteries in Alton, Godfrey, and Collinsville area with interrments between 1850-1925? Also the Catholic churches in these areas.

Good Day, I have in my possession, a program from a Centennial Celebration for Campbell Chapel AME Church (1844-1944) dtd Aug 21-27, 1944. (Alton, IL) It is in mint condition and has a lot of photos, church history, etc. I don't know if this church is still in existence or not, but two generations of my family were active members there. I would like to donate this program, as it has a lot of good information. Can someone point me in the right direction of contacting someone in reference to this? Thank you for your time. LeRoyce E. Bratsveem

I am looking for information on William Boardman Churchill (1794-1856)'s second wife Jane Robinson Kingston (abt 1808-1852) and her two children by him, Adeline Churchill (b 1842). and Henry Clay Churchill (b 1846) . I think they lived in Collinsville. Jane had two children by her first husband, Sampson Kingston, William Wesley and Sampson. Sampson (b abt 1831) lived to adulthood and is listed as a druggist in Jarvis in the 1880 census for Madison Co.

I say give it to the Madison County Genealogical Society which houses its library collection at the Edwardsville City Public Library. The book would be available to all who are researching their family lines and since Edwardsville is the county seat they are within a couple of blocks from the court house when at the library. The address is - Madison County Genealogical Society Attn: Society Librarian PO Box 625 Edwardvsille, IL 62025 Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Anyone researching any of these families from Alton? Hale's to U.S. from Germany 1856 McNamara's to U.S. from Queen's/King's Co., Ireland ca. 1860's/early 1870's Dougherty's to Alton from KY before 1837 when Wm. married Catherine Mulliken.

Sorry, Linda, I don't have any Charles or Ruths in the family. Lynn De Trano

Wonder if you see a Charles Gill Smith anywhere. I know he married my dad's aunt, Ruth Agnes Powell on May 17, 1905 in Alton. I don't know the parents of Charles, but would like to have that info. Linda Garrett [email protected] wrote: > 1927 Alton City Directory lists: > Jacob Smith (Nettie) lab res 136 Missouri Ave > Miss Irene Smith res 136 Missouri Ave. > Eli Smith res 126 Missouri Ave. > George lab. res 126 Missouri Ave. > Jessie J. Smith (Elizabeth) 1B 1G emp W. Cart Co. res 2624 Yager Ave. > Emp would be Western Cartridge Company, East Alton, Now operating as Olin > There were 3 Edwards, 1 Lou 2 Louis, no Hiram, no Royal, no Stella six > Williams, 5 Georges > Not much, but a little help maybe. The wife's name of Nettie wasn't > mentioned in your query, but appears to be correct. > > TOM SAXTON > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm

Tom, I am most grateful to you for your help. Thank you Kindly, Lynn DeTrano