LDS lists Vincent KUNK in 1840 Census, Marine, Madison Co., IL Thought provoking to turn up your name 160 years later. Anyone have any info on this man - marr., dea., where from & any descendants ? Regards, Vincent P. KUNK, Palm Desert, Ca. <[email protected]>

I haven't researched the Gundlach name, but I do know of one (Gundlach) family that lives in Highland now. >> > > ______________________________ > From: "Katherine D. Smith" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Gundlach in Highland > > In researching my family, I have read many obits in which the family (St. > Clair Co., Belleville-Mascoutah Area) were buried through the Gundlach > Funeral Home. They were very active in the early part of this century, I > think. Hope this is of some help. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Garrett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:24 PM > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Gundlach in Highland > > >> I went to a second hand store today and got to talking to one of the >> volunteers who works there. She was telling me her ancestors were named >> Gundlach and they lived in Highland, IL. I told her that was in Madison >> Co. and I would ask on the list if anyone is researching this name. >> Thanks! >> Linda Garrett >> >> >> ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >> To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, > send the message to: >> [email protected] >> It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. >> >> >

In researching my family, I have read many obits in which the family (St. Clair Co., Belleville-Mascoutah Area) were buried through the Gundlach Funeral Home. They were very active in the early part of this century, I think. Hope this is of some help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Garrett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Gundlach in Highland > I went to a second hand store today and got to talking to one of the > volunteers who works there. She was telling me her ancestors were named > Gundlach and they lived in Highland, IL. I told her that was in Madison > Co. and I would ask on the list if anyone is researching this name. > Thanks! > Linda Garrett > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: > [email protected] > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. > >

When I asked that question at Hayner they gave me the name of Cathie Lamere. You can contact her at the following address: Hayner Public Library 326 Belle St Alton, IL 62002 Attn Cathie Lamere Darrell Wesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikki Liles" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Hayner Library > If I were to write to the library and ask for research in the index book, would the library have a person who could/would do this? > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm > >

If I were to write to the library and ask for research in the index book, would the library have a person who could/would do this?

Would the Hayner library at Alton Square have the same index book? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene Meyer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Alton Telegraph Hayner Library in Alton has volumes of index books on old newspapers articles. If you look up an individual's name in the index books, it will show you what date, page and column the article appears. Most obits can be found in that fashion. The more recent articles are on microfiche in the top drawer of that file cabinet. The library is now working backwards from the present date, so there is a gap where there is no reference to articles, but old articles are in the index books. If I was looking for the name Hapgood, I would go to the H index book , then to Hapgood and all the articles on the Hapgood family, plus the Hapgood Plow Company would be in that index book. Just an example. Sharlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Wesley <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Alton Telegraph > > Does anyone know when the Alton Telegraph first started publishing obituaries? > > > Darrell > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. http://www.cyndislist.com/

Hi, I am getting gobs of bouncing email messages. Sometimes msn (latest), sometimes hotmail, sometimes other isps. No certain ones. They are just bouncing. Other maillist managers have mentioned they are having the same thing happen. With over 300 subscribers, wow, and this is a little list. Glad I don't have a Smith surname list. So, if you should get bounced off the list and you want to stay on, just subscribe again. I have bounces set at 3 to bounce off. I think I oughtta set it at one. ha! I don't know the cause of the excessive bounces. Thank you for your patience. And, thanks to such a helpful group of researchers. Gloria Frazier maillist manager

Hayner Library in Alton has volumes of index books on old newspapers articles. If you look up an individual's name in the index books, it will show you what date, page and column the article appears. Most obits can be found in that fashion. The more recent articles are on microfiche in the top drawer of that file cabinet. The library is now working backwards from the present date, so there is a gap where there is no reference to articles, but old articles are in the index books. If I was looking for the name Hapgood, I would go to the H index book , then to Hapgood and all the articles on the Hapgood family, plus the Hapgood Plow Company would be in that index book. Just an example. Sharlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Wesley <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Alton Telegraph > > Does anyone know when the Alton Telegraph first started publishing obituaries? > > > Darrell > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search >

Looking for Charles Martin Buried in Alton area, he is my Uncle. Born Between 1910 and 1922...around Johnson City Tn. to Charles Martin and Ida Jane Sisemore. Any help would be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Thanks Debbi, your a big help. Darrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Alton Telegraph > Depending on the social status of the deceased is how > the obituary was published in the early days. I know > that there are some in the late 1800's published. The > key is that until around the 1950's there was no > organization of the obits. They just put them where > they wanted to. Some obits appeared on page 2 while > another could have been on page 10 and yet another on > page 12. This means you just have to read title by > title, page by page until you find one. And then if > it's not the right one, continue in the same fashion > until you find another. > > Then if the deceased lived in a community which had a > correspondent, the community news column may have been > published only once a week or once every two weeks. > Any deaths from that community would have been part of > that community's news. Sometimes you have to look for > 2 or 3 weeks worth of issues to find any mention of a > death. Sometimes it was a vague mention or just a > comment that "Jane Doe was buried last Friday" or > "Jane Doe who died last Monday was buried on > Wednesday". You may get lucky and a complete > historical obit is found in these community news > columns. > > Places where the obits were placed from the 1950's > forward include the end of the sports section (before > the want ads), after the editorial pages and the last > page of the first section. > > Also until the obits were all placed in one section, > you may have to read an article which doesn't seem > appropriate. I have a great-great-aunt who accidently > shot husband during an argument. This domestic > situation was mentioned in an article on page two and > didn't seem like anything I should have been looking > for, however, I read it just for curiosity. I then > recognized the names of the couple and kept reading > and there was a brief obit at the end. That's all > that was published (in 1903). The strange thing on > this was that his gravestone has 1902. It was just > luck that I let curiosity lead me. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search > >

You have Porter in your subject line. Are you reseaching Porter? ----- Original Message ----- From: Molly. <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Burton, Porter, Sherman > Hi Joe, > This was as close as I can get to having a William with a Mary > with approx.specified age.This is from the 1880 census cds. > > Census Place: Brownstown, Jackson, Indiana > Source: FHL Film 1254286 National Archives Film T9-0286 Page 26C > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Henry SHURMAN Self M M W 45 HANOVER > Occ: Farmer Fa: HAN Mo: HAN > Mary SHURMAN Wife F M W 42 HANOVER > Occ: Keeping House Fa: HAN Mo: HAN > Louisa SHURMAN Dau F S W 17 IN > Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN > Lizzie SHURMAN Dau F S W 14 HAN > Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN > Willie SHURMAN Son M S W 5 IN > Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN > > Maureen (NY,USA) > Ye Old Directory Shoppe 1/2 price BLAST! > Select from approx.166 directory cds > Let's break down those brick walls > http://yeoldedirectoryshoppe.com/oldcitydirectories/CD.html > > > OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD's! > Great for finding elusive census addresses! > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/molly./ > > MOODY Family and decendants > http://www.geocities.com/molly19_55/index.html > > Researching: > O'CONNELL/CONNELL, CULLITY, FORREST, MOODY, AVENT, TRIGGS, TRINNICK,HOLLAND, GARDINER, FLOOD, KNOWELL, O'DONOGHUE/DONOGHUE/DONOHUE, RYAN, PELLICY, SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN, JAMES, HENNING, MATTHEWS, ROWE, ELLIS, PETERS, CHAMBERLAIN, FROST, SNOW, CRUWYS, REED, PARKIN, WILLIAMS, VITA, PELUSO, VIVACQUA, CANTONE, PERRONE, ORLANDO,and ROSA > Also:SHANNON, READEY, WYNNE/WINNE, McDONNEL, > SEAWOOD, MAHRENHOLZ, HOKE, HUMPHREYS, GROS, > BRANSBY, DeVINE, PAUBA/POUBA, HEJL, AMREITER, > RITZ, CHARVAT. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joseph Meyer > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:00 PM > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Burton, Porter, Sherman > > > I am researching the William Sherman who md Mary Elizabeth Burton Porter > about 1907. They lived in the Godfrey area, had known children, Walter, > Mary, Thelma and James. > If anyone has the 1880 census I am looking for any Shermans who had a wife > Mary, and a son William, who would be about 5 in 1880. > Thanks > Joe Meyer > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/02 > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html >

Thank you for that information!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi Geer <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Alton Telegraph > Depending on the social status of the deceased is how > the obituary was published in the early days. I know > that there are some in the late 1800's published. The > key is that until around the 1950's there was no > organization of the obits. They just put them where > they wanted to. Some obits appeared on page 2 while > another could have been on page 10 and yet another on > page 12. This means you just have to read title by > title, page by page until you find one. And then if > it's not the right one, continue in the same fashion > until you find another. > > Then if the deceased lived in a community which had a > correspondent, the community news column may have been > published only once a week or once every two weeks. > Any deaths from that community would have been part of > that community's news. Sometimes you have to look for > 2 or 3 weeks worth of issues to find any mention of a > death. Sometimes it was a vague mention or just a > comment that "Jane Doe was buried last Friday" or > "Jane Doe who died last Monday was buried on > Wednesday". You may get lucky and a complete > historical obit is found in these community news > columns. > > Places where the obits were placed from the 1950's > forward include the end of the sports section (before > the want ads), after the editorial pages and the last > page of the first section. > > Also until the obits were all placed in one section, > you may have to read an article which doesn't seem > appropriate. I have a great-great-aunt who accidently > shot husband during an argument. This domestic > situation was mentioned in an article on page two and > didn't seem like anything I should have been looking > for, however, I read it just for curiosity. I then > recognized the names of the couple and kept reading > and there was a brief obit at the end. That's all > that was published (in 1903). The strange thing on > this was that his gravestone has 1902. It was just > luck that I let curiosity lead me. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search >

I went to a second hand store today and got to talking to one of the volunteers who works there. She was telling me her ancestors were named Gundlach and they lived in Highland, IL. I told her that was in Madison Co. and I would ask on the list if anyone is researching this name. Thanks! Linda Garrett

Hi Joe, This was as close as I can get to having a William with a Mary with approx.specified age.This is from the 1880 census cds. Census Place: Brownstown, Jackson, Indiana Source: FHL Film 1254286 National Archives Film T9-0286 Page 26C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry SHURMAN Self M M W 45 HANOVER Occ: Farmer Fa: HAN Mo: HAN Mary SHURMAN Wife F M W 42 HANOVER Occ: Keeping House Fa: HAN Mo: HAN Louisa SHURMAN Dau F S W 17 IN Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN Lizzie SHURMAN Dau F S W 14 HAN Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN Willie SHURMAN Son M S W 5 IN Occ: At Home Fa: HAN Mo: HAN Maureen (NY,USA) Ye Old Directory Shoppe 1/2 price BLAST! Select from approx.166 directory cds Let's break down those brick walls http://yeoldedirectoryshoppe.com/oldcitydirectories/CD.html OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD's! Great for finding elusive census addresses! http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/molly./ MOODY Family and decendants http://www.geocities.com/molly19_55/index.html Researching: O'CONNELL/CONNELL, CULLITY, FORREST, MOODY, AVENT, TRIGGS, TRINNICK,HOLLAND, GARDINER, FLOOD, KNOWELL, O'DONOGHUE/DONOGHUE/DONOHUE, RYAN, PELLICY, SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN, JAMES, HENNING, MATTHEWS, ROWE, ELLIS, PETERS, CHAMBERLAIN, FROST, SNOW, CRUWYS, REED, PARKIN, WILLIAMS, VITA, PELUSO, VIVACQUA, CANTONE, PERRONE, ORLANDO,and ROSA Also:SHANNON, READEY, WYNNE/WINNE, McDONNEL, SEAWOOD, MAHRENHOLZ, HOKE, HUMPHREYS, GROS, BRANSBY, DeVINE, PAUBA/POUBA, HEJL, AMREITER, RITZ, CHARVAT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Meyer To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Burton, Porter, Sherman I am researching the William Sherman who md Mary Elizabeth Burton Porter about 1907. They lived in the Godfrey area, had known children, Walter, Mary, Thelma and James. If anyone has the 1880 census I am looking for any Shermans who had a wife Mary, and a son William, who would be about 5 in 1880. Thanks Joe Meyer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/02 ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

If you got the message you passed. Seems rootsweb was rejecting everything I sent yesterday . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Test Message > When will I know if I passed?? > > Maureen (NY,USA) > Ye Old Directory Shoppe 1/2 price BLAST! > Select from approx.166 directory cds > Let's break down those brick walls > http://yeoldedirectoryshoppe.com/oldcitydirectories/CD.html > > > OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD's! > Great for finding elusive census addresses! > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/molly./ > > MOODY Family and decendants > http://www.geocities.com/molly19_55/index.html > > Researching: > O'CONNELL/CONNELL, CULLITY, FORREST, MOODY, AVENT, TRIGGS, TRINNICK,HOLLAND, GARDINER, FLOOD, KNOWELL, O'DONOGHUE/DONOGHUE/DONOHUE, RYAN, PELLICY, SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN, JAMES, HENNING, MATTHEWS, ROWE, ELLIS, PETERS, CHAMBERLAIN, FROST, SNOW, CRUWYS, REED, PARKIN, WILLIAMS, VITA, PELUSO, VIVACQUA, CANTONE, PERRONE, ORLANDO,and ROSA > Also:SHANNON, READEY, WYNNE/WINNE, McDONNEL, > SEAWOOD, MAHRENHOLZ, HOKE, HUMPHREYS, GROS, > BRANSBY, DeVINE, PAUBA/POUBA, HEJL, AMREITER, > RITZ, CHARVAT. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darrell Wesley > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:50 PM > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Test Message > > > This is a test. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. > >

When will I know if I passed?? Maureen (NY,USA) Ye Old Directory Shoppe 1/2 price BLAST! Select from approx.166 directory cds Let's break down those brick walls http://yeoldedirectoryshoppe.com/oldcitydirectories/CD.html OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD's! Great for finding elusive census addresses! http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/molly./ MOODY Family and decendants http://www.geocities.com/molly19_55/index.html Researching: O'CONNELL/CONNELL, CULLITY, FORREST, MOODY, AVENT, TRIGGS, TRINNICK,HOLLAND, GARDINER, FLOOD, KNOWELL, O'DONOGHUE/DONOGHUE/DONOHUE, RYAN, PELLICY, SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN, JAMES, HENNING, MATTHEWS, ROWE, ELLIS, PETERS, CHAMBERLAIN, FROST, SNOW, CRUWYS, REED, PARKIN, WILLIAMS, VITA, PELUSO, VIVACQUA, CANTONE, PERRONE, ORLANDO,and ROSA Also:SHANNON, READEY, WYNNE/WINNE, McDONNEL, SEAWOOD, MAHRENHOLZ, HOKE, HUMPHREYS, GROS, BRANSBY, DeVINE, PAUBA/POUBA, HEJL, AMREITER, RITZ, CHARVAT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Wesley To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Test Message This is a test. ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm

Does anyone know when the Alton Telegraph first started publishing obituaries? Darrell

I am researching the William Sherman who md Mary Elizabeth Burton Porter about 1907. They lived in the Godfrey area, had known children, Walter, Mary, Thelma and James. If anyone has the 1880 census I am looking for any Shermans who had a wife Mary, and a son William, who would be about 5 in 1880. Thanks Joe Meyer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/02

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Depending on the social status of the deceased is how the obituary was published in the early days. I know that there are some in the late 1800's published. The key is that until around the 1950's there was no organization of the obits. They just put them where they wanted to. Some obits appeared on page 2 while another could have been on page 10 and yet another on page 12. This means you just have to read title by title, page by page until you find one. And then if it's not the right one, continue in the same fashion until you find another. Then if the deceased lived in a community which had a correspondent, the community news column may have been published only once a week or once every two weeks. Any deaths from that community would have been part of that community's news. Sometimes you have to look for 2 or 3 weeks worth of issues to find any mention of a death. Sometimes it was a vague mention or just a comment that "Jane Doe was buried last Friday" or "Jane Doe who died last Monday was buried on Wednesday". You may get lucky and a complete historical obit is found in these community news columns. Places where the obits were placed from the 1950's forward include the end of the sports section (before the want ads), after the editorial pages and the last page of the first section. Also until the obits were all placed in one section, you may have to read an article which doesn't seem appropriate. I have a great-great-aunt who accidently shot husband during an argument. This domestic situation was mentioned in an article on page two and didn't seem like anything I should have been looking for, however, I read it just for curiosity. I then recognized the names of the couple and kept reading and there was a brief obit at the end. That's all that was published (in 1903). The strange thing on this was that his gravestone has 1902. It was just luck that I let curiosity lead me. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com