I sent them a check for $15.00 for the latest cemetery book on 01 Feb. 2002. So far, I have not received it. Lorman http://webpages.charter.net/lpw74 ------------------------- > > #2 Re: [ILMADISO-L] Cemetery Book [[email protected]] > > > > _ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Cemetery Book > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:56:28 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Just a word of warning . I sent a check for $50.00 for some cemetery books > from Madison county society back in December . The check was cashed but I > have not received the books . I called the library 2 times and no one ever > got back with me . I finally sent a letter and received a letter back that > they had mailed them and tht volunteers sometimes mess up . I have still > not received the books .. 3-6-2002 > > very disgusted here > sheri

Just a word of warning . I sent a check for $50.00 for some cemetery books from Madison county society back in December . The check was cashed but I have not received the books . I called the library 2 times and no one ever got back with me . I finally sent a letter and received a letter back that they had mailed them and tht volunteers sometimes mess up . I have still not received the books .. 3-6-2002 very disgusted here sheri

Does anyone on the list have access to the "Madison County, Illinois Cemetery Book" (other than Volume I)? I'm hoping to find an entry for a Peter MARSTEIN/MORSTAIN who died between 1856-1859. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Marita I think the only way you can get a copy of the 1818 census is from a printed book. I don't recall seeing where the 1818 census is available on microfilm. The book that I saw it in was an old one which I think was printed sometime between 1875 and 1900. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Thanks so much, Debbi! I have a feeling that it probably slid down into the dirt and got covered by mud and weeds. I'm so glad that I took a picture of it! There are no probate records listed in Madison County. Unless she died in Clinton County, my photo might be the only record of her death date! Mr. Morgan's list is a blessing to those who are researching ancestors in Helvetia Twp. A whole bunch of my ancestors are on his list, including some important ones whose stones I didn't find. Nancy --- Debbi Geer <[email protected]> wrote: > Nancy > > Unless someone in the Society did something and > didn't > tell me (cemetery committee chairperson), I wouldn't > know what happened. As you said it was sitting off > to > the side and it's possible that the person who did > the > inventory didn't see it. If I were you, I'd contact > the Bond Co IL Genealogical Society. I believe that > they did an inventory several years ago and you > could > see if they have it on their list. If not, my guess > would be that they too didn't see it in its > location. > > Since the MCGS hasn't published the inventory yet, > I'm > going to make note and make sure it does get > included. > The person who supplied the inventory to IL Trails > has granted me permission to publish it. He also > knows that I'm going to add the information from E E > Morgan's diary to make a better inventory so that > people will know in the future where their ancestors > are buried (with and without a stone). > > > Debbi > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Madison County maillist archives; enter the > word ilmadiso here: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILMADISO > Find the names of other maillists to search: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Does anyone have access to the above census who would be willing to copy the entry for Seth Hodges? He is #71 1 male over 21 and 4 others in the household. I have it in typescript but need a copy of the original. I will cover postage and copying. Please! I am trying to complete a Prairie Pioneer Certificate. Marita Gladson

Nancy Unless someone in the Society did something and didn't tell me (cemetery committee chairperson), I wouldn't know what happened. As you said it was sitting off to the side and it's possible that the person who did the inventory didn't see it. If I were you, I'd contact the Bond Co IL Genealogical Society. I believe that they did an inventory several years ago and you could see if they have it on their list. If not, my guess would be that they too didn't see it in its location. Since the MCGS hasn't published the inventory yet, I'm going to make note and make sure it does get included. The person who supplied the inventory to IL Trails has granted me permission to publish it. He also knows that I'm going to add the information from E E Morgan's diary to make a better inventory so that people will know in the future where their ancestors are buried (with and without a stone). Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Thank you! This information is very helpful! >From: Doris Best <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ILMADISO-L] RE: (ILMADISO-L)Ambuehl, Arnold, Wagner, >Widman/Witman >Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 20:58:29 -0800 (PST) > >In "Madison County, Illinois Cemetery Book, Volume I", >are the following: >St. Gertrude Catholic Cemetery, Grantfork: > Bertha Ambuehl, wife of John Ambuehl, 28 August >1863-10 May 1886 >Calvary Cemetery, Pierron: > Helen K. Gruenenfelder nee Wagner, February 17,1882- > July 8, 1924 > E. Elliott Gruenenfelder, 1884-1970 (in different >row) > > Jacob Widman, July 21, 1836-October 4, 1905 > Anne K. Widman nee Bopp, March 31, 1842-November 17, > 1930 > > Charles Widman, Father, May 12, 1871-December 8, 1954 > Minnie Widman nee Schauster, Mother, May 19, 1881- > October 13, 1967 >Hope this helps you. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball >http://sports.yahoo.com > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Thanks Debbi, The stone was very legible just a few weeks before the person walked the cemetery. What worries me is that it was broken off at the base and I'm wondering if someone might have picked it up before the cemetery was walked. It was small enough that it could even have been obliterated by a rain storm. I know it could have been missed - we almost didn't see it because it was sitting off to the side of the main group of graves. What we would like to know is if someone from the Madison County Genealogical Society might have "rescued" the stone and put it somewhere for safekeeping. The stone reads "Amy...John Hobbs...died Nov. 30(?), 1887. It has clasped hands at the top. I have Morgan's list but it ends in 1881. Nancy --- Debbi Geer <[email protected]> wrote: > > The person who did the research at Sugar Creek > Cemetery did only a stone by stone reading and only > for those that were legible at the time. I figure > that he probably did it in a rush of some sort but > had > good intentions. I also know that there are > probably > many graves for which there is no stone. A diary > kept > by E E Morgan who lived in that area during the > mid-1800's makes mention of people who died from the > St. Rose IL area and where they were buried. I > suspect that several mentioned do not have markers > and > probably never did. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Passenger Lists on the internet search: > http://www.google.com/search?q=Passenger+Lists&btnG=Google+Search > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

In "Madison County, Illinois Cemetery Book, Volume I", are the following: St. Gertrude Catholic Cemetery, Grantfork: Bertha Ambuehl, wife of John Ambuehl, 28 August 1863-10 May 1886 Calvary Cemetery, Pierron: Helen K. Gruenenfelder nee Wagner, February 17,1882- July 8, 1924 E. Elliott Gruenenfelder, 1884-1970 (in different row) Jacob Widman, July 21, 1836-October 4, 1905 Anne K. Widman nee Bopp, March 31, 1842-November 17, 1930 Charles Widman, Father, May 12, 1871-December 8, 1954 Minnie Widman nee Schauster, Mother, May 19, 1881- October 13, 1967 Hope this helps you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Found a John Pardon living in Troy twsp , Madison County , Illinois in the 1850 census , also found a Pardon living in the Saint Jacob Area of Madison County , Ill Jo & Larry wrote: > I thank everyone who responded to my note re my question regarding Arnold > Wolf and Eliza Ross. Unfortunately, I've not been able to make any > connection with Arnold and other Wolfs (no matter how it's spelled) in the > area as of yet. > > My intent, however, with my original note was to see if anyone knew where > the magistrate ("J. Padon., Mg." as it appears on the marriage record) that > married them was located. If I can find out in what part of the county or > what township that J. PADON lived, then I can do some investigating in that > particular part of Madison County. > > Does anyone else have notations on their ancestors' marriage records that J. > PADON performed the marriage? Again, this would be in 1866. > > Jo House > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

Anyone have any information on these folks from Madison County? AMBUEHL, John, b. 1863 Leef, IL, m. Bertha Widman ARNOLD, Rose b. 1890 OH, d. 1934 Highland, IL WAGNER, (female) b. circa 1890 m. Elliot Gruenenfelder WIDMAN/WITMAN family of Saline,IL and Grantfork, IL area _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Nancy The person who did the research at Sugar Creek Cemetery did only a stone by stone reading and only for those that were legible at the time. I figure that he probably did it in a rush of some sort but had good intentions. I also know that there are probably many graves for which there is no stone. A diary kept by E E Morgan who lived in that area during the mid-1800's makes mention of people who died from the St. Rose IL area and where they were buried. I suspect that several mentioned do not have markers and probably never did. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

First, apologies. I accidently hit the wrong button and may have sent a blank message to the list. I need to find out who I can contact concerning the Sugar Creek Cemetery in Helvetia Township. I was there two summers ago and photographed the tombstone of an ancestor's wife. The stone was broken and just leaning against a tree or something. A month or so after I visited the cemetery, somebody posted a list of the graves on the Illinois Trails web site. The stone that I found was not included. I tried to contact the submitter, but received no reply. Recently I've been corresponding with a descendant of the woman whose stone I photographed. I'm wondering if the stone is still there, or what happened to it. I believe the cemetery was being maintained by members of the Madison County Genealogical Society. Please help. This is very important. Thanks! Nancy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com

Here is another Group of Camps. Walter and Catherine Camp page 327 Madison County, IL.......They had a daughter by the name of Mary really close in age to the Mary I have born in December of 1849. Here are there children from the 1860 Census page 327 - August 1860 Line 17 Home Dwelling 2401/2407 Walter 40 M 1200 400 PA Catherine 38 F TN Ephriam 16 TN Nancy S 14 TN Mary 10 TN George 7 TN Jane 4 TN Matilda 1 TN The biggest problem with this family, is that all the kids were born in TN.....Acording to family information My Mary was born in Alton, Madison County, IL. Does anyone have information on this family? Thankyou Cathi Surnames: Clements; Gross; Loring, VanNattan, Graham, Sabo, Hapak, Richardson, Walker, Howell, Bewley, Belger, Camp, Fletcher, Phelps, Kalb, Stanley, Tufts, Fergusion, Wilhoit, Whitman Widner, Gray, Cooper, Angel, Parks, Utter, Manlove, Newberry, Ren, Herron, Gaylor, Lindsay, Wilson, Malcomson -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hammons [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross Thank you, I will keep this in mind. From what I have been searching there were the Camps from England/Ireland and then another family from Novia Scotia that settled in ILL. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathi Gross <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > Hi Pat, > > I wish I knew more about Laura Camp. I recieved her Probate papers through > IRAD Illinois Library System. I would assume since it list her kids as > heirs, with the last name Camp behind each name that Camp was her married > name. But I could be wrong. I hope that she did not have three kids > without a husband, but you never know what you might find when your shaking > a family tree. But my first guess would be that Camp was Laura's first > name. > > Anyway, Her three children are listed as Henry, Mary and Louis Camp. > > My interest in Laura is Mary Camp. > > I wish I could have been more help, > > Sincerely, > Cathi Gross > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Hammons [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > I am doing research on the Camp family. Was Laura married to a Camp or was > that her Maiden name? Do you know who her father was. A lot of Camp > families came from the south and migrated this way. > > Pat > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cathi Gross <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:24 PM > Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > > I have another question about a Laura Camp, who died in Madison County, > > according to her Probate Records, which date her death ON March 26, 1869. > > What Camps were living in the Madison County, Alton area in 1860s? Is > there > > a Laura Camp listed, according to her probate records her son was name was > > Henry, and and there was also a daughter named Mary, and another son named > > Louis. I'm also wondering where Laura might be buried in Madison County. > > > > Thank you for your help, > > Sincerely, > > Cathi Gross > > > > Surnames: > > Clements; Gross; Loring, VanNattan, Graham, Sabo, Hapak, Richardson, > Walker, > > Howell, Bewley, Belger, Camp, Fletcher, Phelps, Kalb, Stanley, Tufts, > > Fergusion, Wilhoit, Whitman Widner, Gray, Cooper, Angel, Parks, Utter, > > Manlove, Newberry, Ren, Herron, Gaylor, Lindsay, Wilson, Malcomson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > > > > Buried in Girard Cemetery along with Milton M. Is "Sarah F. Wolfe [Mrs. > > Milton)" b 9/24/1871 d 2/15/03. This is in Macoupin County which is north > of > > Madison County. > > > > TOM SAXTON > > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send > the message to: > [email protected] > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Passenger Lists on the internet search: > http://www.google.com/search?q=Passenger+Lists&btnG=Google+Search > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: [email protected] It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D.

Hi Tom Here is one more Name Trenton Wolfe Born May 1893, son of Sarah and Milton Wolfe.....Is his grave anywhere near this parents Also other Grahams John Graham Born abt. 1849, William Graham Born abt. 1841, George Graham Born abt. 1843, Loretta Graham Born abt.1856 Thanks for your help Cathi Gross Surnames: Clements; Gross; Loring, VanNattan, Graham, Sabo, Hapak, Richardson, Walker, Howell, Bewley, Belger, Camp, Fletcher, Phelps, Kalb, Stanley, Tufts, Fergusion, Wilhoit, Whitman Widner, Gray, Cooper, Angel, Parks, Utter, Manlove, Newberry, Ren, Herron, Gaylor, Lindsay, Wilson, Malcomson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross The only other Graham in the cemetery is Willard F. b 4/15/1900 d 6/01/52 Son -in law Jenkin E. and Sarah Ellen Davis. Quite a few other Grahams in the area cemeteries but none that match names on your list. TOM ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: [email protected] It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D.

The only other Graham in the cemetery is Willard F. b 4/15/1900 d 6/01/52 Son -in law Jenkin E. and Sarah Ellen Davis. Quite a few other Grahams in the area cemeteries but none that match names on your list. TOM

I did a quick search in the 1880 census from family history resource file and came up with a J.S.Paden in Harvel , Montgomery, Illinois. That was as close as i could get to the Padon name in census so far. Good luck!!!!! Tom Jo & Larry wrote: > I thank everyone who responded to my note re my question regarding Arnold > Wolf and Eliza Ross. Unfortunately, I've not been able to make any > connection with Arnold and other Wolfs (no matter how it's spelled) in the > area as of yet. > > My intent, however, with my original note was to see if anyone knew where > the magistrate ("J. Padon., Mg." as it appears on the marriage record) that > married them was located. If I can find out in what part of the county or > what township that J. PADON lived, then I can do some investigating in that > particular part of Madison County. > > Does anyone else have notations on their ancestors' marriage records that J. > PADON performed the marriage? Again, this would be in 1866. > > Jo House > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > LDS Family Search Engine: > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil War soldiers: > http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

Thank you, I will keep this in mind. From what I have been searching there were the Camps from England/Ireland and then another family from Novia Scotia that settled in ILL. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathi Gross <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > Hi Pat, > > I wish I knew more about Laura Camp. I recieved her Probate papers through > IRAD Illinois Library System. I would assume since it list her kids as > heirs, with the last name Camp behind each name that Camp was her married > name. But I could be wrong. I hope that she did not have three kids > without a husband, but you never know what you might find when your shaking > a family tree. But my first guess would be that Camp was Laura's first > name. > > Anyway, Her three children are listed as Henry, Mary and Louis Camp. > > My interest in Laura is Mary Camp. > > I wish I could have been more help, > > Sincerely, > Cathi Gross > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Hammons [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > I am doing research on the Camp family. Was Laura married to a Camp or was > that her Maiden name? Do you know who her father was. A lot of Camp > families came from the south and migrated this way. > > Pat > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cathi Gross <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:24 PM > Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > > I have another question about a Laura Camp, who died in Madison County, > > according to her Probate Records, which date her death ON March 26, 1869. > > What Camps were living in the Madison County, Alton area in 1860s? Is > there > > a Laura Camp listed, according to her probate records her son was name was > > Henry, and and there was also a daughter named Mary, and another son named > > Louis. I'm also wondering where Laura might be buried in Madison County. > > > > Thank you for your help, > > Sincerely, > > Cathi Gross > > > > Surnames: > > Clements; Gross; Loring, VanNattan, Graham, Sabo, Hapak, Richardson, > Walker, > > Howell, Bewley, Belger, Camp, Fletcher, Phelps, Kalb, Stanley, Tufts, > > Fergusion, Wilhoit, Whitman Widner, Gray, Cooper, Angel, Parks, Utter, > > Manlove, Newberry, Ren, Herron, Gaylor, Lindsay, Wilson, Malcomson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wolf-Ross > > > > > > Buried in Girard Cemetery along with Milton M. Is "Sarah F. Wolfe [Mrs. > > Milton)" b 9/24/1871 d 2/15/03. This is in Macoupin County which is north > of > > Madison County. > > > > TOM SAXTON > > > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send > the message to: > [email protected] > It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D. > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Passenger Lists on the internet search: > http://www.google.com/search?q=Passenger+Lists&btnG=Google+Search >

MG means Minister of the Gospel - a preacher. That's what I have always understood. Judy