An elderly relative sent me copies of (German) records from "St. Paul's Church". It's probably a UCC now, possibly in the Wood River area. Could anybody positively identify the church & send an address so I could contact them directly? Thanks. --- [email protected] wrote: > One other suggestion is to check out the St. John's United Church of > Christ > on Nameoki Ave., in Granite City. It was filled with Germans, so > much so > that they kept the records in old German up until WW I. We've been > there, > but I don't have a personal sense of any particular geographic area > that the > parishioners came from. We were so busy looking for our own > particular folks > that we never thought to ask the general area of origin question. > > Sincerely, > ================================ > Don Dickason > Searching for family names: > Dickason, Hamilton, Cadwal(l)ader, Wisely, > Steinberg, Borchward(t), Biesterfeld(t), Blair > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google+Search > ===== Marsha L. Ensminger searching for Westerhold/t/z in the US and ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

Ancestry's "index" for the entire 1850 census doesn't always refer to the correct image, either. It's still a work in progress; maybe when it's complete it will finally work correctly. I've also noticed that their index sometimes finds the same person twice, with all the information being identical except for the county name. --- Cathi Gross <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree, there is something wrong with both the 1870 and 1850 Census > for > Madison County, IL > > I have had similar problems with both. > > Forinstance, On the 1850 Census I was In 6N Range 10, and it kept > switching > into 6N Range 9 unstead, and it does the same thing in the 1870 > Census. It > makes it very hard to look up the Godfrey Township, which is 6N. > Range 10. > > Cathi Gross ===== Marsha L. Ensminger searching for Westerhold/t/z in the US and ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

In a message dated 03/20/02 7:15:32 PM, [email protected] writes: << One very interesting printed source is found at the Edwardsville Public Library, genealogy dept: It is the multi-volume set "Germans to America: Lists of Passenger Arriving at US Ports 1850-1855", edited by Ira A Glazier & P William Filby. As the title suggests, it contains transcripts of passenger lists of ships arriving at various ports during these years. It names the ship, ports of departure and arrival, dates, and passengers and whatever info was in the list, usually including ages and occupations. There are additional volumes for later years as well. Each volume has a complete index of all individuals named within. >> Germans to America is found in most large libraries and some smaller ones all over the country. You get "sources" only if you know the names and dates of your own ancestors, because there are 100,000's of entries in those volumes, from EVERYWHERE in Germany. With respect to the original question: > My Solter family came to Madison County from Prussia in 1856. Were there > sponsors for immigrants? Did they make connections with specific places in > Germany to bring immigrants to Madison County? Is there a particular area in > Germany which is heavily represented in Madison County? > I'd be interested in that too. We have Biesterfeldts well documented from Spitzerdorf, now in Wedel, German, just west of Hamburg. We have Borchward(t) PROBABLY, but not documented from Mecklenburg, a region east of Hamburg. Both the Biesterfeldts and Borchwardts arrive about 1870 "from Prussia." One other suggestion is to check out the St. John's United Church of Christ on Nameoki Ave., in Granite City. It was filled with Germans, so much so that they kept the records in old German up until WW I. We've been there, but I don't have a personal sense of any particular geographic area that the parishioners came from. We were so busy looking for our own particular folks that we never thought to ask the general area of origin question. Sincerely, ================================ Don Dickason Searching for family names: Dickason, Hamilton, Cadwal(l)ader, Wisely, Steinberg, Borchward(t), Biesterfeld(t), Blair

Lisa, Upper Alton Cemetery 2090 Oakwood Avenue, Alton, IL 62002-5315 1-618-462-1672 **Speak to Kevin - Tell him, Lynn from NY gave you his name. He's a nice guy. Wish you luck, Lynn DeTrano

One very interesting printed source is found at the Edwardsville Public Library, genealogy dept: It is the multi-volume set "Germans to America: Lists of Passenger Arriving at US Ports 1850-1855", edited by Ira A Glazier & P William Filby. As the title suggests, it contains transcripts of passenger lists of ships arriving at various ports during these years. It names the ship, ports of departure and arrival, dates, and passengers and whatever info was in the list, usually including ages and occupations. There are additional volumes for later years as well. Each volume has a complete index of all individuals named within. Unfortunately, I don't know if there are any volunteers to do look-ups. Someone on this list may be available for that or know of someone else who can do that. Happy Hunting! Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Solter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 20 March 2002 11:19 Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Looking for research resources - German immigration > My Solter family came to Madison County from Prussia in 1856. Were there > sponsers for immigrants? Did they make connections with specific places in > Germany to bring immigrants to Madison County? Is there a particular area in > Germany which is heavily represented in Madison County? > > Is there any reading material available that addresses this question? > > All input is welcome. > > Thanks > > Phyllis Solter > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm >

Looking for descendants of Thomas J. and Martha A. (Caulk) Allen. Moved from Montgomery/Madison County, IL to MO, then KS, then possibly OK and CA in the late 1800's. Children: Mary, b abt 1879/80, IL; Manda, b abt 1879/80, IL, Anna, Martha, Rector prob b KS, and Jacob. Linda Peters

My Solter family came to Madison County from Prussia in 1856. Were there sponsers for immigrants? Did they make connections with specific places in Germany to bring immigrants to Madison County? Is there a particular area in Germany which is heavily represented in Madison County? Is there any reading material available that addresses this question? All input is welcome. Thanks Phyllis Solter

I agree, there is something wrong with both the 1870 and 1850 Census for Madison County, IL I have had similar problems with both. Forinstance, On the 1850 Census I was In 6N Range 10, and it kept switching into 6N Range 9 unstead, and it does the same thing in the 1870 Census. It makes it very hard to look up the Godfrey Township, which is 6N. Range 10. Cathi Gross -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Bower [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Ancestry's 1870 Madison Co IL census 1870 isn't the only one! Last night I clicked on the name of an ancestor in Saline Twp. in 1850 and got an entirely different page in Highland Twp. And that's not the only problem I've run into. I know that indexing those censuses is a huge project, and it's a wonderful resource. I hope they will eventually get it straightened out. Nancy --- Debbi Geer <[email protected]> wrote: > I have sent an email message to Ancestry regarding > the > links between the towns and townships and the census > images. It seems that the links are not going to > the > town or township that it should be directed to. For > example, click on Alton and you get Saline Township > and Highland, click on T6 R9 and you get T5 R7. > > In my message I suggested that they take the 1870 > Madison Co IL census offline and correct the links > so > that we the subscribers will be able to use their > use > rather than get frustrated and discouraged. > Hopefully > they will check it out and see that there is a > problem > and correct it. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free > email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every > posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive > several postings as a single large message. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm

Good Day, Trying to obtain death information/obituary (preferably) on the following: William Stewart b. 1852 -- I know that he was living as late as 1926 as he is mentioned in his son's obituary. Elizabeth Stewart b. 1860/62 -- I know that she was not living as late as 1926 as she is not mentioned in son's obituary. The two census records I have show them living in Fosterburg and Alton IL. I am also looking for a marriage record on these two who were married in 1876. I thank you for your time.

Hello, I need the telephone number for the Upper Alton Cemetery. I had it and can't find it now. Thank you. Lisa

Saw the post for Anne Stuckey. I have been searching for a Margaret Stuckey or Stucky from the 1860-1890 time period, who married Samuel Bartlett about 1865. The only info I have on the two, is that Samuel is listed in the 1866 Alton Directory as an engineer. Any info on Margaret and or Samuel would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Glenn from Pa.

If Anne Stuckey is on this list, please e-mail. I have some info. for you. Thanks. Betty [email protected]

Just a brief but huge--THANK YOu--for the information on Illimois townships. That will be such a great help. Claudia

Three members of the Borchwardt family who lived in Venice, Madison Co., died in the last half of 1885 (July, November and December). One was 43 years old, one 9 years, and one a few weeks or days. Was there an epidemic of some sort at that time that could account for so many of diverse ages dying in such a short time? Or was it just coincidence? Any help would be appreciated, Don Dickason

1870 isn't the only one! Last night I clicked on the name of an ancestor in Saline Twp. in 1850 and got an entirely different page in Highland Twp. And that's not the only problem I've run into. I know that indexing those censuses is a huge project, and it's a wonderful resource. I hope they will eventually get it straightened out. Nancy --- Debbi Geer <[email protected]> wrote: > I have sent an email message to Ancestry regarding > the > links between the towns and townships and the census > images. It seems that the links are not going to > the > town or township that it should be directed to. For > example, click on Alton and you get Saline Township > and Highland, click on T6 R9 and you get T5 R7. > > In my message I suggested that they take the 1870 > Madison Co IL census offline and correct the links > so > that we the subscribers will be able to use their > use > rather than get frustrated and discouraged. > Hopefully > they will check it out and see that there is a > problem > and correct it. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free > email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every > posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive > several postings as a single large message. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

My probable ancestor Andrew Russell died intestate in 1835 in Madison Co. I got his probate records from Irad. No mention of wife for orphans. However a researcher in Salt Lake City saw mention on a micro film of a guardianship record for his orphan Mary A. Russell in a file box for 1832-1837. It is not indexed in IRAD. I have tried to hire someone to look for it either in the county courthouse or in the IRAD files at SIU. Can anyone direct me to someone who will do this for me for a fee? I don't think IRAD will search without an index location, but I think guardianship records would be among probate court records?? wherever the originals are kept? Thanks, Tom Rea My great grandmother was Mary Ann Russell, born 1832 in St. Louis, father Andrew Russell, mother unknown, siblings unknown. Parents may have been Andrew Russell and Nancy Craycraft who married 1816 in Bath Co., KY. Nothing else is known about them. Mary Anne Russell marries in 1852 at Carlisle, Nicholas Co., KY, home of many of Mrs.Nancy Craycraft Russell's siblings. Per inventory records Andrew Russell's wife was seen by a doctor in Madison Co., IL in 1833-1834. His administrator was John Ives, a Justice of the Peace. --

Thankyou for the information about the 1870 Census. I have one more question, Do you happen to know what page number would be for those two households, in Godfrey. Maybe that would help. Thanks, Cathi -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Wesley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Wood Station According to Joyce Meyer's 1870 census book, Godfrey is part of Township 6 Range 10. Try around sheet 28. Try Household 212 for a J.L.Belger living with the family of Jacob Strong, worked in coal mine. There is a Mary Camp 2 doors away in HH 214 age 19 born IL. Along with Henry and L?wis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathi Gross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wood Station > Speaking of the Godfrey, IL. I've been looking at the Census for the 1870 > Census for Madison County. I am having a hard time determing, which > sections of the census would be the Godfrey area. The top part of the > census is determined by these names some names such as alton, and Alhambra, > but others have township 5 range 9 or someother number as that. > > I am trying to find the exact location of a John Belger, and a Laura or Mary > Camp. > > John was from NEW YORK and single born in April 16, 1845 > > and Mary was born right in Alton on December 25, 1849. She have been > living with a woman by the name of Laura or Mary born in Prussa. and her > brothers may have been Henry, Louis, John. > > Anyway, If someone could look this up, or give me some better way of finding > these people in the census that I am looking at right now. > > Thankyou so much for your help, > > Cathi > [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Wood Station > > > > There is a Wood Station Road in the Godfrey, Illinois area. > > > > Lisa Davis > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== To post a message so everyone on ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D receives it, send the message to: [email protected] It will then be sent on to everyone in both ILMADISO-L or ILMADISO-D.

Thankyou very much for you help Sincerely, Cathi Gross -----Original Message----- From: Debbi Geer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ILMADISO-L] Wood Station Cathi I found the Tibbett-Camp marriage online (Secretary of State's site). You'd have to contact the Madison County County Clerk's office in Edwardsville to obtain a copy of the license and find out what information was submitted at the time. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm

John, let's compare notes, please. I have just now found out about the PURCELL family with a possible link to our Marley family, and woul like to see the 1900 census which shows the Elmer Eugene Purcell family. Evidentally, he would be about 24 when he married in 1908 to your gga, and therefore, would have be born about 1874-1878, which could link into my Frank Purcell, born 1870. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN BROTHERS? COUSINS? I am copying this email to my cousin, Sharon Marley Morris, for reference. I appreciate your writing and giving us this lead. Nell beck Truitt > I don't know if there is any connection at all, but my great-great-aunt Anna > > Hefner married Elmer Eugene Purcell in Alton (St. Mary's Catholic church) > on > 15 Feb 1908. If he was one of your Purcells, I can provide you information > > on their descendants but I don't know anything at all about his parents or > siblings. > > John Coffee

In a message dated 03/13/2002 3:06:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks for your response. This PURCELL family is listed in the 1920 census of Madison County. Did I say 1880, if so, sorry. I am needing to see if they are listed in the 1900 census. Nell > Regarding the Purcell family - > > Are you sure you have all the information correct? I > looked up the family in my published copy of the 1880 > Madison Co IL census and there are no Purcell's in > Edwardsville Township. Also the ages of Frank and > Della seem to be somewhat off with regard to the > children in that time period.