Hi Denise! The Richter family you're looking for, are they from Collinsville around 1910? I am told my great-great-aunt married a Richter. I know she grew up in COllinsville and was born in the late 1800s. Sheryl

I am searching for any information about Okke Bohlen, d. Feb 2 1933 in East Alton, Madison County. Can anyone help? Frank S.

Henry Richter, Traffic Police, res 1102 Garden William Richter, Cigar Maker, A. F. Graessle res 1102 Garden Listed as Cigar Manufacturer August F. Graessle, 1630 Bozza St. Garden and Bozza streets are in the same neighborhood in Alton. From 1927 Alton, Illinois City Directory If you have some dates and general area of county it might help others come up with some info. TOM SAXTON

Thanks Tom, Southern Illinois area St louis to Pierron, Breese, Highland , from 1870 to today [email protected] wrote: > Henry Richter, Traffic Police, res 1102 Garden > William Richter, Cigar Maker, A. F. Graessle res 1102 Garden > Listed as Cigar Manufacturer August F. Graessle, 1630 Bozza St. > Garden and Bozza streets are in the same neighborhood in Alton. > From 1927 Alton, Illinois City Directory > If you have some dates and general area of county it might help others come > up with some info. > TOM SAXTON > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm > >

Looking for more information of any kind on the following families or I am willing to share the information which i have already have for the following families Mc Cain Richter Goestenkors Bisgen Thank you, Denise

In a message dated 5/17/02 5:04:34 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > My search in the Statewide Death > Index reveals ancestors, but doing a global search on all databases does not > return any of them who are on the Statewide Death Index. > > I've had the same problem. Also, I can sometimes retreive information Statewide that doesn't come up with a specific county and vice versa. It pays to check all possibilities, a small price to pay for such a fantastic resource. I wish all states were doing as well as Illinois. Penny M

In a message dated 5/17/02 8:25:28 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Surviving are one daughter, Mrs. Ray Rister, Alton; I know that there are still some Risters in Alton. The white pages show 11, in and around Alton. There is also a Rister's Automotive or Rister's Transmission on Milton Rd. in Alton. Hope this helps. Carol Carol Robertson Sierra Vista, AZ Please visit my website: <A HREF="http://www.carolscarvings.homestead.com/CarolsCarvings.html">http://www.CarolsCarvings.homestead.com/CarolsCarvings.html</A>

I am hoping someone can help me with locating anyone connected to the Rister family mentioned in the following obituary, this Ethel Elizabeth Carr is my aunt and I would love to contact her descendants. Standard Democrat Sikeston, Missouri January 28, 1971 ETHEL E. CARR ALTON, Ill.----- Mrs. Ethel Elizabeth Carr, 74, a former resident of Sikeston, Mo., died Tuesday at 8:30 P.M. in St. Joseph hospital. She was born in Kentucky Feb. 25, 1896. Her husband, Alfred Carr died Sep. 4, 1949. Surviving are one daughter, Mrs. Ray Rister, Alton; one sister, Mrs Ora Clifford, Seattle, and two grandsons. Robert D. Sliger [email protected]

Just be careful about using the "Global Database Search" feature on the Illinois State Archives Online Databases. My search in the Statewide Death Index reveals ancestors, but doing a global search on all databases does not return any of them who are on the Statewide Death Index. =================================== Outgoing mail scanned with Norton Antivirus. =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Frazier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] IL Death Index 1916-1951 now online > NEW! > You will like this one: > IL Death Index 1916-1951 > http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html > > In the future, the Secretary of State plans to ask for volunteers > from each county to input the years that are available from around > 1878 through 1915. > > ______________________________

Yes! Thank you, thank you thank you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

NEW! You will like this one: IL Death Index 1916–1951 http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html In the future, the Secretary of State plans to ask for volunteers from each county to input the years that are available from around 1878 through 1915.

I need to find out if an Armstrong family is living in Madison Co in 1900. Does anyone have access to an index? I've looked thru every ward for Alton City area and so far no luck. But there is still alot of Madison Co to go thru and Im going crosseyed!! LOL Please oh please someone have an index!! Thanks!! Cross eyed Donna in MD

Thank you!! :-) We are looking for information on several Madison County families. Armstrong, Gotthardt, Gottlob, Keller, Slagle, Gooch, Goodpasture, Biggs, Fricke The Armstrong family is tied to our Gotthardt family in more ways than we recently discovered. I found our Gotthardt family on the 1880, 1900, 1910 and 1920 census. I have a naturalization paper, 2 copies of the birth registers of Madison Co., and a copy from the National Archives of Civil War Pension papers and a copy of Civil War Roster cards. We've been talking to our Uncle Paul Keller who was born in 1924 in Alton. He remembers having 2 Aunt Lela's. One being Lela Armstrong who married WIlliam Gottlob. He rememebrs going to the VFW Post 1308 of which he is still a member and greeting his Gottlob cousins. Lela Armstrong Gottlob operated a Grocery store on Washington he remembered going too. Uncle Paul also talks of an Aunt Lela Armstrong. Married to Paul Armstrong. They operated the Armstrong Standard Service Station on Central. He remembers going there also. He said after Paul Armstrong died the station was sold and Lela then remarried to Edwin Cox. On the 1920 census, my husbands Grandmother Dorothy Louise Gotthardt and her sisters Mary K. Gotthardt and Hellen M. Gotthardt were found living with William Gottlob, wife Lela, their children. They were listed as Nieces. Also living there was mother in law Sarah J. Biggs. Uncle Paul said that he was related to Aunt Lela. Which means theoretically that the childrens mother Lois Unknown and Lela Armstrong Gottlob were sisters and in order for there to be an Uncle Paul and Aunt Lela Armstrong that would theoretically mean Paul was a brother to Lela and Lois. I found a P.E. Armstrong with wife Lela on the 1920 census. But I have nothing to tie any of these people together except the memories of Uncle Paul. We need help with our Alton families. Also, does anyone know of the address you write to if you want copies of records from the Catholic Orphanage that used to be in Alton?? My husbands mother and siblings (Uncle Paul) were all raised there. I'm going to include a genelaogy report as its so much easier for me than typing it all in. Thank you and have a good evening!! Donna and Robert Gill in MD Ancestors of Lois Georgiann Keller Generation No. 1 1. Lois Georgiann Keller, born August 12, 1927 in Alton, Madison Co., IL; died June 07, 1987 in Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington D.C., USA. She was the daughter of 2. Paul William Keller and 3. Dorothy Louise Gotthardt. She married (1) William Harry Gill March 17, 1951 in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. He was born September 26, 1930 in Hazelton, Pennsylvania, USA. He was the son of Harry Gorrell Gill and Katherine Henrietta Harlor. More About Lois Georgiann Keller: Burial: June 10, 1987, Manchester Cemetery, Manchester, Maryland Cause of Death: Heart Valve Failure Died from: June 07, 1987, Heart Valve Failure see notes Medical Information: Had Rumanic Fever when 12 yrs old, damaged heart, had Atrial Fibulation, had 1st heart attack in 1957 during birth of 3rd child. Had open heart surgery 5 times all at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Religion: Roman Catholic Residence: Raised in the Catholic Orphanage in Alton, IL Notes for William Harry Gill:Military records show his birthdate as Sept. 26, 1930. William lied about his age to join the Air Force. Generation No. 2 2. Paul William Keller1, born April 13, 1903 in Madison, Illinois, USA1; died November 1971 in Cottage Hills, Madison, Illinois, USA. He was the son of 4. Oscar Keller and 5. Georgia J.. He married 3. Dorothy Louise Gotthardt in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. 3. Dorothy Louise Gotthardt2,3, born May 25, 1904 in Carrollton, Madison, Illinois, USA4; died August 18, 1983 in Granite City, Madison, Illinois, USA. She was the daughter of 6. John Gotthardt and 7. Lois Armstrong. More About Paul William Keller: Burial: November 19, 1971, Alton City Cemetery, Alton City, Madison Co., IL, 21B, Lot10 1920 Madison Co., ILL census Dorothy L., Mary K., and Helen M. Gotthardt are listed as nieces and living with William L. Gottlob, his wife Lela and their children and a mother in law Sarah J. Biggs. Alton, Illinois Directory, 1890 William Gottlob clerk r 207 Marshall Alton IL 1889, 1890 Children of Paul Keller and Dorothy Gotthardt are: i. Dorothy Pauline Keller, born January 02, 1923 in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. More About Dorothy Pauline Keller: Residence: Raised in the Catholic Orphanage in Alton, IL ii. Paul William Keller, born January 19, 1924 in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. More About Paul William Keller: Residence: Raised in the Catholic Orphanage in Alton, IL 1 iii. Lois Georgiann Keller, born August 12, 1927 in Alton, Madison Co., IL; died June 07, 1987 in Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington D.C., USA; married William Harry Gill March 17, 1951 in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. Generation No. 3 4. Oscar Keller5, born Abt. 1878 in Illinois5; died June 1951 in Alton, Illinois. He married 5. Georgia J. Bef. 1901 in Illinois. 5. Georgia J.5, born Abt. 1874 in Illinois5; died in Alton, Illinois. Notes for Oscar Keller: IL, Madison Co., Alton Twp., Alton City, Roll T624_309, Sheet 22B, Enumeration District 29, Enumerated April 18th by Evelyn Hull, Linden Ave, Dwelling 77, family No. 78 Keller, Oscar W(hite) 38 pob ILL fpob Germany mpob Germany Georgia J. W ,36, M1 10 4 4 pob ILL fpob MO mpob ILL Lewis F. S , 8, IL Paul W. S , 7, IL Benjamin G. S , 2, IL Oscar D. S , 1, IL Eaton, Julia Aunt F W 54 WD ILL fpob ILL mpob Ohio In the Alton City Cemetery I found the following Kellers: Oscar D. Sr., died in Alton, buried 6-20-1951, arrangements by Gent, Blk 21b Lot 10 Georgia, died in Alton, buried 4-3-26, arrangements by Jacoby, Blk 29, Lot 24 Louise, died Alton, buried 9-5-1917, arrang. by Jacoby, Blk 29 Lot 24 Paul, died Alton, buried 11-19-1971, arrang. Gent, Blk 21B Lot 10 Benjamin George died in Wood River, buried 1-8-1951, arrang. Streeper, Blk 21b Lot 10 Baby, died Wood River, Blk 21B Lot 10 Anna, died Alton, buried 3-4-1935,Streeper, Blk 29 Lot 24 Emma, buried 3-2-1876, Sec. CG Ida, Buried 4-3-1896, Blk 29 Lot 24 Samuel, buried 3-28-1864, Sec CG Idelle, died St. Louis MO, buried 3-8-1947, arrang by Quinn, Blk 21B Lot 10 Shirley Louise died Alton, buried 9-29-1937, Streeper Stillborn died Alton, buried 11-3-1951, arrang. Gent William Sr., died Alton, buried 8-31-1949, Streeper. DONNA & ROBERT: check into this Alton, Illinois Directory, 1890 Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year John Keller tailor r 907 e 3d Alton IL 1889, 1890 More About Oscar Keller: Burial: June 20, 1951, Alton City Cemetery, Alton City, Madison Co., IL, Blk 21B, Lot10 Census: 1910, Lists parents places of birth as Germany. More About Georgia J.: Burial: April 03, 1926, Alton City Cemetery, Alton City, Madison Co., IL, Lot24 Children of Oscar Keller and Georgia J. are: i. Lewis F. Keller5, born 1902 in ILL5 2 ii. Paul William Keller, born April 13, 1903 in Madison, Illinois, USA; died November 1971 in Cottage Hills, Madison, Illinois, USA; married Dorothy Louise Gotthardt in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. iii. Benjamin George Keller5, born 1908 in ILL5; died in Wood River, Madison Co., IL. More About Benjamin George Keller: Burial: January 08, 1951, Alton City Cemetery, Alton City, Madison Co., IL, Blk. 21B, Lot10 iv. Oscar D. Keller5, born 1909 in ILL5 v. Joseph C. Keller, born 1914. 6. John Gotthardt6,7,8,9,10, born October 09, 1878 in Illinois11,12,13,14,15; died 1947 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.. He was the son of 12. John Gotthardt and 13. Minnie Fricke. He married 7. Lois Armstrong Abt. 1903 in Illinois. 7. Lois Unknown16, born Abt. 1878 in Illinois; died 1914 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.. Notes for John Gotthardt: 1910 Census had them living in Godfrey, Ill. Ref.#16200150035 Soundex#G363 1910 Madison Co. IL Godfrey 16200150035 Soundex # G363 Gotthardt, John W(hite) 31 Illinois IL Lois, W , 32, IL Dorothy D , 5, IL Mary K. D , 4, IL Helen M. D , 2, IL ID: I356 Name: John GOTTHARDT Given Name: John Surname: Gotthardt Sex: M Birth: OCT 1878 in Illinois Change Date: 16 OCT 1998 at 00:00:00 Father: John GOTTHARDT b: JUL 1825 in Germany Mother: Minnie b: SEP 1850 in Germany Updated: Thu Oct 14 07:07:05 1999 Contact: carolyn gibbons <[email protected]> http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cgib&id=I356 More About John Gotthardt: Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL Occupation: 1910, Worked for the railroad More About Lois Armstrong: Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL Children of John Gotthardt and Lois Armstrong are: 3 i. Dorothy Louise Gotthardt, born May 25, 1904 in Carrollton, Madison, Illinois, USA; died August 18, 1983 in Granite City, Madison, Illinois, USA; met (1) Earl Anderson; married (2) Paul William Keller in Alton, Madison, Illinois, USA. ii. Mary K. Gotthardt16, born Abt. 1906 in Carlinville, Madison Co., ILL16; married Joe Ursch. iii. Hellen M. Gotthardt16, born Abt. 1908 in Carlinville, Madison Co., ILL16 Generation No. 4 12. John Gotthardt17,18,19,20,21, born July 02, 1825 in Hanover, Germany22,23,24,25,26; died March 10, 1920 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.. He married 13. Minnie Fricke April 27, 1873 in Macoupin Co., ILL27. 13. Minnie Fricke28,29,30,31, born September 1850 in Germany32,33,34,35; died 1915 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.. Notes for John Gotthardt: Fought in Germany, (Prussian Wars) had only known war from the time he could hold a gun, deserted the German Army and walked to France and came to America, and worked his way up the Mississippi River. Fought in the Civil War with the Missouri Calvary. From 86 year old Cynthia Gooch Edward (Grandaughter of John) Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - Discharge Notes Allegiance Gotthardt John E 1 Missouri Cavalry. Private Private Union Birth Index 1, Macoupin County Illinois, 20 Mar 1998 (received these 2 records) Gothardt, John and Mina, Charlotte, 1881, 1 , 238 Gotthardt, John and Mina, John, 1878, 1, 67 Macoupin County Illinois Courthouse Naturalization Indexes (got Naturalization papers) GOTTHARDT, John Shelf Index I - Vol. 1854-1897, Page 62 Honor Roll Of Veteran Burials in Macoupin County IL1956, State of Illinois, Illinois Veterans' Commission Surname,Given Name,War,Rank,Branch,Unit or Organization,Date of Death,Cemetery GOTTHART, John , C, Pvt , Army, Co E 1 MO Cav , 10 Mar 1920, City Cemetery Carlinville Twp Carlinville John's Civil War Pension paperwork states he was 5'9" high, Had a light complextion, blue eyes and brown hair. The number of his pension certificate is 534.088 John was a Private of Company E, 1st Regiment, MO Calvary. Enrolled Aug. 1st, 1861, St. Louis, MO for 3 years. Mustered in at Jefferson Barracks, MO Sept. 6, 1861. Mustered out Sept. 17, 1864. Honorably Discharged. More About John Gotthardt: Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL Census: 1920, Lived with daughter Emma Slagel and family at age 94. Emigration: 1856, Entry port unknown Nationality: German Naturalization: 1861 Occupation: 1900, Dealer in hardware Notes for Minnie Fricke: Mother's death has some questions, one story is that she died at the birth of Minnie, the other is that she died just before the trip to America or during the trip. Was adopted and raised by the Fricke family. More About Minnie Fricke: Burial: Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, ILL Children of John Gotthardt and Minnie Fricke are: i. Minnie C. Gotthardt36,37,38, born January 27, 1874 in ILL39,40,41; married Newton A. Goodpasture August 08, 1897 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL; born 1860 in ILL42. Notes for Minnie C. Gotthardt: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 GROOM BRIDE CNTY DATE VOL/PAGE LIC GOODPASTURE, NEWTON GOTHORDT, MINNIE MACOUPIN 08/08/1897 002/0257 00005942 ii. Margrethe A. Gotthardt43,44,45, born June 04, 1876 in ILL46,47; married John Thomas Gooch June 17, 1896 in Carlinville,Macoupin,Illinois; born February 1871 in Carlinville, Madison Co., ILL48. Notes for Margrethe A. Gotthardt: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763 - 1900 GOOCH, JOHN T GOTTHARDT, MARGARET A MACOUPIN 06/17/1896 002/0229 00005577 More About Margrethe A. Gotthardt: Census: 1880, Has name listed as Maggie. 6 iii. John Gotthardt, born October 09, 1878 in Illinois; died 1947 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL; married Lois Armstrong Abt. 1903 in Illinois. iv. Clyra Gotthardt49, born March 01, 188049; married Guy Murphy. v. Charlotte Gotthardt50, born May 01, 1881 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL.50; died Bef. January 1898. vi. George Gotthardt51,52,53,54, born October 01, 1883 in ILL55,56,57 More About George Gotthardt: Census: 1920, Lives with sister Margaret Gooch and family. Died from: Auto accident vii. Emma Gotthardt58,59,60,61, born March 19, 1886 in ILL62,63,64,65; married William C. Slagel; born 1885 in ILL66,67. Notes for William C. Slagel: 1920 census states William is born in ILL, his father in PA and his mother in Germany. Birth Index 1, Macoupin County Illinois, Earliest Births through 1881 Slagel, Charles and Dina, William, 1882, 1 , 313 Slagel, Charles H and Dena , male, 1878, 1 , 37 Slagle, Charles H and Dena , Rebecca, 1879, 1 , 132 Dorchester Township Macoupin County IL family names, the date settled in Macoupin County, and nativity were taken from the 1875 Atlas of Macoupin County, published by Warner and Beers, Chicago. C H Slagel, 1868, PA. More About William C. Slagel: Census: 1920, Owned home at 450 Ramsey St., Carlinville, IL Occupation: 1920, Painter viii. Katherine Gotthardt68,69, born October 20, 1888 in ILL70,71; married Earl Davenport. More About Earl Davenport: Occupation: Civil Engineer, East St. Louis 14. Unknown Unknown, born in ILL72. He married 15.Unknown Children of Unknown Armstrong and Unknown are: 7 i. Lois Armstrong, born Abt. 1878 in Illinois; died 1914 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL; married John Gotthardt Abt. 1903 in Illinois. ii. Lela Armstrong, born February 15, 1890; died January 1971 in Alton, Madison Co., ILL. (assumption here) Notes for Lela Armstrong: Name SS# Issue State Birth Death Death State Last Known Residence Last Payment Location AutoWrite Letter GOTTLOB, LELA 354-32-4416 IL 15 Feb 1890 Jan 1971 IL Alton, Illinois 62002 iii. Paul E. Armstrong, married Lela

Donna, The list is for Families first and places second in relation to the families. Just post some particulars and your question and see what kind of answers you get. Happy Hunting

I have a question. Is the Madison County List just for places in Madison County or for the families that lived there also? Thanks, Donna

Cheryl passed this on to us so I am passing on. If it will save one person some money so they can pay for xerox copies of marriages, probate, etc, then good. gf ----------------------------------------------------- >From Dick Eastman's newsletter: - An Old Genealogy Scam Reappears There is a Web site that sends out unsolicited e-mails offering to give you access to the world's largest genealogy database for only $44.95. At first, that might sound like a good deal. However, the e-mails don't mention the source of this "world's largest" genealogy database. It is the Internet and is free to everyone -- except for the gullible folks who fall for these e-mails. What the e-mails do not tell you is that your money only buys you access to a list of links. These links on the Web site present the other sites inside HTML frames, making it look like the other sites are a part of original site's "service." They do this without telling you that the contents are not created by them, but actually are the intellectual property of the originators. FamilyDiscovery.com was one source of these misleading e-mails. The site was in business for a year or so and gained notoriety within the genealogy community. Their Web site disappeared recently, apparently being shut down by the Internet service provider that hosted the online "service" after complaints by many users. However, a new Web site has recently appeared, operating a site that looks like FamilyDiscovery.com but under a different name. It appears that the owner of the new Web site is the same person who owned the earlier one. The new Web site is Genealogy- Developments.com. The new Web site proclaims that you can "Search Over 23 Billion Genealogy Records Right From This Website." That claim is absolutely correct. Of course, you can search the same 23 billion records without going to that Web site and without paying $44.95. If you read the fine print at http://www.genealogy-developments.com/faqs.html, you will note that it says, "We do not offer access to a database of records but we do offer the ability to search billions of online records spanned across the Internet." The reality is that you can find all those links, and more, elsewhere on the Web. I suspect that most of them are available on Cyndi's List at http://www.cyndislist.com. Of course, Cyndi's List is free of charge. There are a couple of "watchdog sites" that watch for Web sites like FamilyDiscovery.com and Genealogy-Developments.com. The International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists maintains a "Genealogy Hall of Shame" at: http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/familydiscovery.htm. The Watchdog Committee maintains the "Genealogical Web Site Watchdog" at: http://www.ancestordetective.com/watchdog.htm. You might also want to check Cyndi's List at: http://www.cyndislist.com/myths.htm#Consumer. If you ever have a question about an online genealogy "service," I'd suggest that you check these sites before spending any money.

The Telegraph - Sunday - April 28, 2001 SMALLPOX ISLAND MONUMENT IS DEDICATED The playing of "Dixie", the flying of Confederate flags and the laying of wreaths highlighted a ceremony Saturday honoring Confederate prisoners of war who died in Alton. The event was the dedication of the Civil War Monument to remember the Confederate inmates of the Alton Federal Prison who died of smallpox and other contagious diseases. It was held on a rainy, chilly morning in the Lincoln Shields Recreation Area in the Riverlands Environmental Demonstration Area in West Alton. Guests were shielded from the cold wind and rain by a tent. "This is our pledge to the Southern patriots," said Terry Norris, archaeologist/historian of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers St. Louis District, which funded the granite monument. The monument is engraved with the names of 233 Confederate soldiers who died of smallpox after they were transferred from the prison to an island in the Mississippi River, which became known as Smallpox Island, including one woman, also are on the monument. The soldiers and others who died on the island were buried in trench graves. Smallpox Island later washed away, but the graves were discovered in 1935, when workers digging for the original Alton Dam unearthed them. The five-sided monument was erected last year in West Alton, across the Mississippi from Alton, and its surrounding stone platform was completed during the winter. Alton Township Supervisor Don Huber, master of ceremonies said the Confederate POWs "died for what they believed in at the time." Civil War re-enactors, represented by the 9th Missouri Volunteer Infantry and the Sons of the Confederate Veterans of Granite City, took part in the ceremony. They acted as color guards and placed wreaths at the monument in honor of the dead soldiers. Confederate re-enactors fired a salute. Nine members of the Roxana High School Band, led by music teacher Nancy Sabaj played "The Star Spangled Banner", "God Bless America", and the Confederacy's theme song of "Dixie." A trombonist played taps. Col. Michael R. Morrow, St. Louis District engineer, delivered a brief talk, reminding the audience that America recently suffered the loss of more than 3000 citizens "in a bloody terrorist strike, and we grieve for them and their families" "Today we are gathered to remember some of the more than 618,000 who died in the Civil War, the War Between the States", Morrow said, "Some historians say that number should be as high as 700,000. Union losses totaled 360,000. 250,000 of those to disease, like the cause of death of those whose names are on this monument. Confederate forces lost 258,000 - 164,000 to disease. Morrow said the fighting in the Civil War was "savage". He said that at Wilson's Creek, MO, a little-known battle, Northern and Southern forces lost 1200 men in a single day, a family from Christianburg, VA, lost 18 members and the lst Main Heavy Artillery lost 635 of its 900 men in seven minutes. He said the Civil War pitted not just states against states, but families who fought among themselves, brothers against brothers. " But we as a people, north and south of a line that divided us for four brutal years survived as these United States of America," Morrow said, "So today we gather not just to mourn the loss of these victims of war, but to celebrate each of their lives. In the end, neither the Union nor the Confederacy prevailed; rather, our nation outlasted the divisiveness of men for the future of mankind. God Bless these men who gave their lives and God Bless the United States of America.".... One descendant of a Confederate soldier who died of smallpox in Alton was present at the ceremony. Rex Cash, 43, of Choctaw, Okla, said his grand-uncle, Alfred Cash of Arkansas, enlisted in May 1862 and served in the 37th Arkansas Infantry, fighting in two battles. He was captured in 1863 and brought to the Alton prison. "He died less than three months after he was captured," Cash said. "This ceremony today was good, and it was important for me to be here. Alfred was only 19 years old when he enlisted and his family had no grave to grieve on, no closing, no funeral rite." "I felt it was a family obligation for me to be here. I grew up with his story. Those men endured the weather, so I didn't want to let a little bit of rain stop me. It's my way of giving something back to them."

Under http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/databases.html they have a pretty good PDF file showing township and range numbers. in the previous post the &W=2 are part of the link they did not wrap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Piasa isn't the better clue! Whoopie! > You realize this is in Hamilton County IL, if by server you mean the > "Illinois Database on the web, for it to work you need to use two digit > numbers like 04S and 06E. The original land owner was > GREEN LEWIS FD E2SW 24 04S 06E 3 80.00 1.25 > 100.00 MALE 12/06/1821 HAMILTON 110 002 HAMILTON > > http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.asp?S=14&T=2&X=114&Y=1326&Z=16& > W=2 > > It looks like the eastern edge of South Crouch Township or depending on the > scale of your maps north of McLeansboro and east of 242. > > Kent > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Piasa isn't the better clue! Whoopie! > > > > Hi Larry, > > > > I hate to ask this but when I tried to find the following property on the > > server, I was unable to do so. I am not at all sure I am using the tool > > right. Anyway, I need to locate the following property and was wondering > if > > you could help me. This is the property of the next generation up from > the > > one that you helped me find. > > > > The actual will specifies the following: > > > > Hamilton county IL > > > > Real estate known as the East half of the South West Quarter of Section No > > Twenty Four in Township Four South of Range Six East Containing Eighty > Acres. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Vicky > > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Keep an eye on this census site because more census' are going up every day. > http://www.us-census.org/usgwcens/ > and this one: http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/states.htm >

You realize this is in Hamilton County IL, if by server you mean the "Illinois Database on the web, for it to work you need to use two digit numbers like 04S and 06E. The original land owner was GREEN LEWIS FD E2SW 24 04S 06E 3 80.00 1.25 100.00 MALE 12/06/1821 HAMILTON 110 002 HAMILTON http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.asp?S=14&T=2&X=114&Y=1326&Z=16& W=2 It looks like the eastern edge of South Crouch Township or depending on the scale of your maps north of McLeansboro and east of 242. Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Piasa isn't the better clue! Whoopie! > Hi Larry, > > I hate to ask this but when I tried to find the following property on the > server, I was unable to do so. I am not at all sure I am using the tool > right. Anyway, I need to locate the following property and was wondering if > you could help me. This is the property of the next generation up from the > one that you helped me find. > > The actual will specifies the following: > > Hamilton county IL > > Real estate known as the East half of the South West Quarter of Section No > Twenty Four in Township Four South of Range Six East Containing Eighty Acres. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Vicky > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > http://www.cyndislist.com/ >