Here are two possibilities. Hope this helps. Stella [email protected] Census Place: E. D.17-23, Choteau, Madison, Illinois Source: FHL Film 1254233 National Archives Film T9-0233 Page 284C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William BEAVER Self M M W 24 O Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: O Mo: O Catharine BEAVER Other F M W 22 ILL Occ: Keeping House Fa: ILL Mo: PRUS James BEAVER Son M S W 3 ILL Fa: O Mo: ILL Bertha BEAVER Dau F S W 1 ILL Fa: O Mo: ILL Minnie BEAVER Dau F S W 3M ILL Fa: O Mo: ILL Census Place: Humbolt, Coles, Illinois Source: FHL Film 1254183 National Archives Film T9-0183 Page 99D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John B. BEAVERS Self M M W 37 VA Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA Catherine J. BEAVERS Wife F M W 32 OH Occ: Keeping House Fa: IRELAND Mo: IRELAND Fred BEAVERS Son M S W 2 IL Occ: At Home Fa: VA Mo: OH BEAVERS Dau F S W 1M IL Occ: At Home Fa: VA Mo: OH ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] 1880 census > Does anyone have access to IL 1880 census? Looking for William H. Beaver and > wife Catherine and possibly 1 child. May be in Wood River or Alton in > Madison County. Would appreciate any help. > > Kathy B. > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Madison County ILGenWeb home page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmadiso/index.htm > > >

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Yes there are still Ursuline Nuns in Alton. The Ursuline convent is on 845 Danforth, Alton IL 62002 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] UrsulineAcademyOfTheHolyFamily? > The 1912 Centennial History of Madison County has a description of Ursuline > Academy of the Holy Family, in Alton, which is posted on the web. The school > is not in the phonebook today under that name. Does it exist under another > name? Are there still Ursuline nuns in Alton? Where might the records be? > > Jane Lahey > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search Engine for Genealogy Madison County Illinois > http://www.google.com/search?q=Genealogy+Madison+County+Illinois&btnG=Google +Search > >

You might try the Alton Public Library. They have a copy of the cemetery listing in the Illinois History room. I do not think that it was ever realy published. It might be a week or two, but I might be able to get there and check for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Meyer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] Alton cemetery > Does anyone have any printed records of any of the Alton cemeteries? I am > looking for Sherman and Shandrow names.from 1870 to present. > Joseph Meyer > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.362 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/02 > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Links-Lots of helpful links for your research. > http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

Kent, There is a $9.00 Charge (I believe) for the death certificate. I would be happy to send you the address and telephone number if you would like. I live in St. Clair County, and their hours are the same as the hours that I work. Cindy >From: "Kent" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ILMADISO-L] Need Death cert help >Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 05:37:18 -0500 > > >Tombstone's are not always correct. But death cert index 1916-1950 are >online below are the links for before 1916 and index. > > >http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html#before1916 > >http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html > >Kent > > >We know from the death date on her tombstone she died 1914. > > How do we go about getting any kind of death record on someone who died >in > > 1914? Does anyone live in Madison Co thats on this list that could go to > > the courthouse and see if there is a death record of her? > > > > > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >LDS Family Search Engine: >http://www.familysearch.org/ >Illinois State Archives Databases including pre 1900 IL marriages and Civil >War soldiers: >http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

I've probably asked this before, but does anyone know if there are any birth records available from 1877? Looking for my great grandmother. Supposedly born in Alton. Mother was Kate Webb, unsure about the father. Possibly William Ryan, although it was said that she was raised by the Ryan family. I think she used the last name Ryan. Her name was Bertha. Also have seen it as Alberta Elizabeth. I have death cert., but have been unable to determine who her father was. Any advice welcome. Thanks, Kathy B.

Thank you for guiding me to this site. Using the "state wide" setting I have found several relatives I have been trying unsuccessfully to locate until now. Elinor [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 5/26/02 5:38:27 AM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html#before1916 > > > > > > Kent--THANK YOU for the above information on the death certificates for ILL. > I FOUND 2 relatives that I have been searching for for months------and IL > has copies with no charge. This had made my day. Claudia > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

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In a message dated 5/26/02 5:38:27 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html#before1916 > > Kent--THANK YOU for the above information on the death certificates for ILL. I FOUND 2 relatives that I have been searching for for months------and IL has copies with no charge. This had made my day. Claudia

Tombstone's are not always correct. But death cert index 1916-1950 are online below are the links for before 1916 and index. http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html#before1916 http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html Kent We know from the death date on her tombstone she died 1914. > How do we go about getting any kind of death record on someone who died in > 1914? Does anyone live in Madison Co thats on this list that could go to > the courthouse and see if there is a death record of her? > >

Hello, We are new to the list and we need some help and pointers on the following family. This is what we know so far. My husbands Grandmother is Dorothy Louise GOTTHARDT born May 25, 1904 in ILL. We found her on the 1910 Illinois Federal Census, Roll T624_309, Madison Co, Godfrey Village, Sheet 1A, And on the 1920 Federal Census, ILL., Madison Co., Alton Twp., Roll T625_389, Pg. 6B. On the 1910 Census it lists John and wife Lois along with children Dorothy, Mary K. and Helen M. On the 1920 Census it lists Dorothy L., Mary K. and Helen M. Gotthardt living with and listed as nieces to William GOTTLOB, wife Lela, their children WIlliam R. and Thelma and Sarah J. BIGGS listed as Mother in law. We know from another researcher that Lela's maiden name is ARMSTRONG. They have her death certificate with her parents listed ANDREW J. and SARAH J. (NANTZ) ARMSTRONG. Sarah first married Andrew in 1876 and then in 1896 she married John Wesley Biggs. These marriages took place in Macoupin Co. We know Dorothy Gotthardt's parents are John and Lois Gotthardt. John Gotthardt was born October 09, 1878 in ILL, died October 08, 1947 in Alton, Madison Co. and was buried in the Carlinville City Cemetery, Carlinville, Macoupin Co., ILL I called the City Clerks Office in Carlinville and got verification John and Lois are indeed buried in the City Cem. Lois however is an enigma. We know from census ages she was born about 1878 in ILL. We know from the death date on her tombstone she died 1914. How do we go about getting any kind of death record on someone who died in 1914? Does anyone live in Madison Co thats on this list that could go to the courthouse and see if there is a death record of her? Since her kids were listed living with the Gottlob family we thought they were related to them but a Gottlob researcher seems to have all the Gottlob children and there isnt a Lois among them. So, we figured they were nieces of Lela Armstrong Gottlob. However, we can't find anything anywhere listing this. We arent sure why the kids were living with their Aunt and Uncle in 1920 as their father didn't die until 1947 but we figure it had to do with him working for the railroad. We have verification of John thru these records: !.) 1910 Illinois Federal Census, Roll T624_309, Madison Co, Godfrey Village, Sheet 1A. 2.) 1900 Roll T623_324, Macoupin Co., Carlinville Twp., Carlinville City, City Ward #2, Sheet 4, Second South St. Listed living with parents. 3.) 1880 Illinois Federal Census, Roll T9_232, Pg. 18B, Macoupin Co., Carlinville Twp., listed with parents. Register Of Births, State of Ill., Carlinville City, Macoupin County, Register No. 68. 4.) Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, DC, January 15, 1898, States wife and childrens names. His fathers Civil War Pension file papers. We have Johns parents and his siblings names thru Civil War papers, census, birth registers, marriage records, naturalization papers. But what we are really stumped on and need to proceed is Lois's maiden name. I already have if Lela Armstrong Gottlob IS her sister, the parents marriage info, census records and another researcher who has info on the family. I can go back 2 more generations on the Nantz line and 1 more on the Armstrong...so even if she isnt an Armstrong I can help other people with that line LOL Any help, suggestions, a volunteer to go to the courthouse...anything would be greatly appreciated!! Much thanks, Donna and Robert Gill in MD

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Here are some urls to try for maps. Otherwise you need to have someone who has a Madison Co plat book to look it up on a plat map. You will need the township, range and section to get an exact point of the farm. Probably old plat maps at the courthouse or libraries in Madison. If you are looking at an original copy of the 1880 census, it may have the township, range and section at the top of the pages. If you use the cd one from LDS, they didn't use the range, etc, just used the post office the person would be using for where they lived. An old map of Madison: http://www.livgenmi.com/madisonIL.htm Another place you might search: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/igis/illinois/counties/madison2.htm http://george.peabody.yale.edu/gnis/ This would get your approximate degrees for latitude and longitude for Madison: http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/states/maps1/il_c.gif Be sure and copy and paste this whole url in your browser window: http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse?lat=38.8318&lon=-89.9082&wid=.3&ht=.3&mlat=38.8318&mlon=-89.9082&msym=redpin&mlabel=Madison+County,+Illinois If you have the lat and long for your place, you can use this url to search for the exact location by using the lat and long (turn it on) then keep zooming in. Latitude 38.8318, Longitude 89.9082 degrees for Madison Co IL Good luck. At 10:46 AM 5/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone know if there are any maps that could show the exact >location someone lived at in 1880 by using the 1880 Census info. >My GrGrGrandparents are listed, not living in a town, how could I >find out exactly where they lived, I know they lived on a farm & >didn't own the land. >I would appreciate any help. >Thanks >Stan Howen >[email protected] > > >==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== >Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: >ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made >to ILMADISO as a separate email. >ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as >a single large message.

The top of the census page should give you a township. Say Godfrey Township [6-10] or township 06 north by range 10 west. Townships are divided into 36 sections. Sections are 640 acres. With all that using http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/data_lan.html searching a section at a time, you maybe able to bracket him with neighbors in the census. Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:46 AM Subject: [ILMADISO-L] 1880 Census Maps > Does anyone know if there are any maps that could show the exact location someone lived at in 1880 by using the 1880 Census info. My GrGrGrandparents are listed, not living in a town, how could I find out exactly where they lived, I know they lived on a farm & didn't own the land. > I would appreciate any help. > Thanks > Stan Howen > [email protected] > > > ==== ILMADISO Mailing List ==== > Difference between ILMADISO-L and ILMADISO-D: > ILMADISO-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to ILMADISO as a separate email. > ILMADISO-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. >

Does anyone know if there are any maps that could show the exact location someone lived at in 1880 by using the 1880 Census info. My GrGrGrandparents are listed, not living in a town, how could I find out exactly where they lived, I know they lived on a farm & didn't own the land. I would appreciate any help. Thanks Stan Howen [email protected]

Dear List, Thought this worthwhile to share. I do not have a website set up yet... it seems just a little overwhelming to me... perhaps by the end of the year. But, we could email pics directly to each other until then. Have a Safe and Blessed Memorial Day Weekend. Kristina/Kristie Aldrup SATX BRIGHAM-List Administrator Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [SOIL] Holiday Cemetery visits -- Hi All, The following message was posted on another mailing list that I subscribe to and I thought it might be a good idea to pass along. A lot of you will be going there to make those pics anyway so why not add a few more as a kindness to those not able to be there to make their own. Some may not be able to travel and some may just live too far away. Do other genealogy researchers a big favor and include those extras. Then if you will email them to the Local List Administrator and specify the cemetery, maybe they will post them online for other researchers to see. Delores Greetings, all! With this weekend being Memorial Day, and several of you will be traveling to cemeteries, I would like to suggest that you take a digital camera with you, and take some photos of the tombstones in the cemeteries that you visit. Small cemeteries can easily be covered by one person, but larger cemeteries would need several people to take photos. This is just an idea I'm floating/proposing, since cemeteries usually look their best at Memorial Day, and it usually isn't too hot yet to be out. so there is somewhere to put all these photos once we gather them. ______________________________ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 From: "Vickie" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOIL] Holiday Cemetery visits What a wonderful idea. We will be the color guards with a Veterans Org. that visit different cemeteries this coming Monday. We will be visiting a very old cemetery that is not being used anymore. I didn't even think to take pictures of the different sites there. There are beautiful huge and tall monuments. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. GOD BLESS THE USA...................................... Vicki in CA [email protected] Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 From: "Karima" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOIL] Holiday Cemetery visits -- This is a great idea, and I do have web space on which I can post anything you all find interesting. Just let me know. Have a safe and fun Memorial Day Weekend! Karima SOIL-L List AdministratorGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 5/23/02 6:09:20 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > If anyone has the index to the 1900 Madison Co, Alton index would you please > look and see if Oscar and Georgia Keller are on it? > > Donna, I don't have the census index, but they don't appear on the Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763-1900. Keep looking for the census data though. Or is there a common misspelling that you've come across under which it might be listed? PennyM

If anyone has the index to the 1900 Madison Co, Alton index would you please look and see if Oscar and Georgia Keller are on it? He'd be 28 and her 26. I'm not honeslty sure if they are married in 1900 or not. I found them on the 1920 Federal Census, ILL, Madison Co., Alton Twp., Pg. 12B, Roll T625_389, Ward 6, Enumerated 12 Jan. by Violette E. Holman, Family 247. And also on 1910 Federal Census, IL, Madison Co., Alton Twp., Alton City, Roll T624_309, Sheet 22B, Enumeration District 29, Enumerated April 18th by Evelyn Hull, Linden Ave, Dwelling 77, family No. 78. Thank you for the assistance. Donna

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