Oops. In my reply to Linda below I was off by a century, mentioning the 1740s and 1760s when I really meant the 1840s and 1860s. No excuse for these errors except getting old and used to doing really early family history. Dwayne -----Original Message----- From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dwayne Wrightsman Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:36 PM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Linda, That's great that you found the deed to the Virden CoB. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. If the deed is not too long, could you prepare a summary of the essential facts in the deed. My maternal great-grandfather, John H. Brubaker, was the first elder in charge of the Virden church. His oldest son (my maternal grandfather), Irvin J. Brubaker, was one of the early deacons. So was my paternal grandfather, George W. Wrightsman. The Virden church was organized the same year (1912) that the West Otter Creek church closed. My paternal grandmother's father, Javan Gibson, was elder in charge at that time. The new Pleasant Hill book that your committee published a few years back has a 1912 photo (p. 352) of the West Otter Creek church with a number of Brethren in it, including my father, Okal Wrightsman, who was a tiny baby at the time. He was held by his mother, Melva Wrightsman Gibson (daughter of Javan Gibson). Last year I wrote a book entitled SUGAR CREEK BRETHREN which follows the Brethren who settled on the Banks of Sugar Creek in Auburn Township in 1830 when Isham Gibson (father of Javan) founded the congregation. It then moves on to the Otter Creek congregation in Macoupin County, also established by Isham Gibson in the 1740s and even into the 1760s when the Pleasant Hill group formed. Isham Gibson was kicked out of the Brethren in the late 1760s just as Pleasant Hill was taking off. He moved to Missouri shortly thereafter and died. At one time the Otter Creek congregation included the satellite Brethren groups at Pleasant Hill in Virden-Girard, the "new" Sugar Creek in Auburn, Macoupin Creek over near Farmersville, and the Bear Creek group over in Christian County. Probably the most interesting chapter in the book is the naming of all the early Brethren buried in the Thayer Cemetery behind Maggie's Tavern. Most people do not know that this cemetery started out as a Brethren burial ground in 1833 on the farm of Elder John Dick. Yes, this is the same Dick family that the library in Carlinville is named after. If anyone wants to take a peek at my book, copies are at the Lincoln Presidential Library in Springfield and in the local libraries in Virden and in Auburn. Dwayne Wrightsman Lee, NH -----Original Message----- From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Kmiecik Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:34 PM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILMACOUP] Trustees as Land Owner Today at the Macoupin Co. Courthouse I looked for any deed to the Virden Church of the Brethren, incorporated in 1912, which apparently no one has ever had. I looked under "B" for Brethren and Baptist, "C" for Church, "V" for Virden, and thought about "G" for German Baptist Church. I noted several deeds between David C. Vaniman and Trustees of the Church of the Brethren and Trustees of the German Baptist Church for other lands. Surely, I thought, such deeds would not be listed under "T" for Trustees! Wrong!!! I found not only the deeds for the Virden Brethren church property in Grantee Book 21, but noted many others for Trustees of Hettick Church, I.O.O.F., Stults Burying Ground (Palmyra), churches in Carlinville, Modesto, and elsewhere, school districts, banks, companies, and many other entities. Thus, at least in this 1900-1920 period, it might be wise to look under "T" for trustees of those groups. Linda Kmiecik Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message