I talked with a lady once who found a copy of her grandparent's marriage license at the court house and took it. She said that it was her relative and she thought she had a right to it. I was appalled that anyone could do that. She is not a genealogist by the way. I do take photos and gladly share anything I have dug out and dug up. If I have made a mistake about something I like to be made aware of the fact. I am still discussing a picture of my grandmother with someone who thinks it is someone else. My mother claims it as her mother. Thank you to all who are willing to share our common history. ________________________________ From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of LRFArnold@aol.com Sent: Mon 3/30/2009 8:42 AM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Cemetery Photos and FindAGrave I, too agree with Rick in that I find and use Find-A-Grave to be extremely helpful. Most of us could never go in person to the cemeteries where our family members (distant cousins, the greats, or even in-laws) are buried around the country. Being in California, I have gone to most of the cemeteries where my families are buried and have posted photos of the markers to Find-A-Grave. One of my distant cousins asked me to go to the Riverside National Cemetery to take a photo of her father's marker and I did. I sent it to her, then asked if she wanted me to post it at Find-A-Grave or if she wanted to do so. She asked me post it for her (I don't think she knew how). Sometimes the information is incorrect, but it sure gives clues to finding the correct information. Unless so marked (a copyright claimed or implied), I am of the persuasion that what is posted online is there for sharing (and/or taking). If it helps another researcher, why not? Some of my photos have been taken without permission and posted elsewhere online. Yes, I was upset but only because I was not accorded the courtesy of being asked first. But then, if you post something online I think you have to expect it to be used elsewhere, ie taken. I don't post anything online what I don't want to taken. Just my thoughts, Linda R.F. Arnold Menifee, California P.S. Dare I mention that yesterday was near 80 degrees here and the only sign of snow was on the mountain tops and melting fast. In a message dated 3/30/2009 4:32:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hmdoty@madisontelco.com writes: I agree. I use findagrave to help make index lists to send to Gloria for the Mac site and help keep track of if I have the entire cemetery done or not and if the person is a relative I can add extra info. I have found info I submitted there copied into duplicate listings, I have found photos I sent to Gloria posted there as from others none of that matters to me as long as the info gets out there for the researcher who wouldn't be able to visit the cemetery any other way. Soon the weather & my time will get where I can get out and get some more so get ready Gloria ;-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Jene Cheek" <cheekfamok@yahoo.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Cemetery Photos and FindAGrave Let me say to start with that I am only speaking for myself and do not mean it to be criticism of anyone else. Everything I post, cemetery pictures and otherwise I post hoping that someone will find it helpful. Consequently I don't really care whether it is copied or posted on other sites with or without giving me credit. I think I would object if someone decided to charge for information I provided for public access but to my knowledge that has not happened. I post pictures on my own websites, on FAG, on rootsweb, etc. and fully intend to continue to do so. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." -General Dwight David Eisenhower --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Debbie Hyland <dlhyland@gmail.com> wrote: From: Debbie Hyland <dlhyland@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Cemetery Photos and FindAGrave To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 5:56 PM I have read quite a few cemeteries in my area and submitted the information to the USGenWeb Tombstone Project and have always gotten credit for my efforts. I've had a lot of people over the years email me for pics of tombstones, etc. which has been fun and rewarding. I'd just find somewhere else to submit your work and don't give up, because the efforts you are making are helping many find ancestors and there are always a few "bad apples." Debbie On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Mary Ann Kaylor <kaylorma@comcast.net>wrote: > I agree with Wayne. I have read several cemeteries and put them > online. FAG has some of them on their site just as I > transcribed/photographed them. At first when I contacted them, they > wanted to make it right and they did put my name on them. Later when > I found others, I emailed them and never heard from them > again. People were submitting them in their names when it was my > work. That is 'stealing'. I think there is some kind of "personal > contest" to see who can submit the most cemeteries on the FAG site, > so people surf the Net and steal others work. So I am not fond of > the site either. > > At 03:24 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote: > >Re : May i ask what you know about the find a grave web site > > > >Joseph and everyone, > >I am not fond of this website at all, They take, and take > >without giving credit or caring where it came from. > >I have found some that they "stole" from my websites > >and after some "work" I had some of these removed from > >FAG. But, I just don't have the time to monitor it > >continually. Also there are the ads. > >I have also heard rumors that FAG may soon > >become a "pay for" site. > >This is just my opinion and does not reflect the > >thoughts and ideas of anyone else. > > > >I have a lot of cemetery photos on-line, from many > >sources over the last dozen years or so and there > >is also some genealogical data provided as well. > >The US photos and data are listed > >http://www.gillespieil.com/genealogy/ > >and the Illinois counties are divided by counties. > > > >Also they are my county pages for Perry and > >Washington Counties in Illinois with many cemeteries > >and other data. Then there is washignton DC > >and Mcnairy County, Tn. > >http://genealogytrails.com/ill/perry/ > >http://genealogytrails.com/ill/washington/ > >http://genealogytrails.com/washdc/ > >http://genealogytrails.com/tenn/mcnairy/ > > > >Too much, isn't it? 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