Can you please send me your 2 great grandfathers name and I will look for him. Many times these special schedules are at the end of the County census. I think only people who were in Institutions are on the Defective, Dependent and Delinquent 1880 Schedules called DDD Schedule. Note, these special schedules have information on the top and bottom of the page - so look at the whole page even if you find the name on the top half. Kathie Mirabella In a message dated 10/16/2009 2:04:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, illinimom2@gmail.com writes: I have a copy of the 1880 census record for my Gr-gr-grandfather. One of his son's is marked as 'Idiotic'. I just found this info... *" If you have discovered such an entry in a family you locate in the 1880 census, you will then want to find the corresponding entry in the Defective Schedules."* Does anyone know where I can locate a copy of the 1880 Defective Schedule...aka the 1880 3D schedule or 1880 Defective, Dependent and Delinquint Classes?

Kathie, would you be able to also look for Claiborne McPeak (or variations of that spelling) on the DDD schedule? I didn't know that existed. Many thanks, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] 1880 Defective Schedule > Can you please send me your 2 great grandfathers name and I will look for > him. > > Many times these special schedules are at the end of the County census. > I > think only people who were in Institutions are on the Defective, > Dependent > and Delinquent 1880 Schedules called DDD Schedule. Note, these special > schedules have information on the top and bottom of the page - so look at > the > whole page even if you find the name on the top half. > > > Kathie Mirabella > > > In a message dated 10/16/2009 2:04:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > illinimom2@gmail.com writes: > > I have a copy of the 1880 census record for my Gr-gr-grandfather. One of > his > son's is marked as 'Idiotic'. I just found this info... > > *" If you have discovered such an entry in a family you locate in the > 1880 > census, you will then want to find the corresponding entry in the > Defective > Schedules."* > > > Does anyone know where I can locate a copy of the 1880 Defective > Schedule...aka the 1880 3D schedule or 1880 Defective, Dependent and > Delinquint Classes? > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope I can 'butt in' as this is the first time I have heard of a DDD schedule as described below. This is about my unfound ancestor--since forever, it seems....surname CHIPMAN, David; the only male born [1838] to Seth and Sarah Lorton Chipman, Greene Co. His parents went with entire family except him and their eldest [married] daughter, to Fannin County TX in 1848-49. He was living with aunt and uncle William and Elizabeth (Chipman) Bradshaw in 1850 Census. Elizabeth C. Bradshaw died in 1855. CENSUS IL 1860, WhiteHall, Greene, IL: David Chipman, now 22, appears with family #176--Samuel Beard [25], wife Sarah [22], daughter Martha [3] all born TN and Mary Turner [10]. This family is next door to family #175--widower and Uncle, William Bradshaw [34], also born TN and his two daughters, Mary [7] and Leonora [5]. They appear on the last lines of that census page. The Chipmans were in Texas in 1852, when Seth was sworn in as JP in Bonham, Fannin, TX. In that 1860 census, the first entry on next page is family #177, and lists a JOSEPHINE McGLOTHIN, 'Hotel Keeper'. What 'sort' of hotel? Could this connect to his orphaned cousin, Josephine ['Fena'] HICKS? There is no mention of David Chipman in subsequent IL censuses and no apparent record of marriage, military service or where and when he died. Why would David, at age 12 in 1850 and 22 in 1860, remain in Illinois when his family moved to Texas in 1848? Though not completely implausible, he was young to be a 'farmhand'. Was he handicapped--sheltered by the family or community? Is 'Hotel Keeper" a 'nice' name for "home for the handicapped"? My questions: Is this DDD schedule only seen for 1880? Is there another place where this information may be listed? A handicapped child seems to be my only alternative at this point. Maybe that's why Jacob and Nancy Bacon did NOT go to Texas when the rest of the family did. In 1852 and 1855 two more children were born to them, but in TX, SO maybe David died about this time, freeing the Bacons to join the rest of the family. I just can't figure what happened to David Chipman as a young adult....At any rate, Nancy returned to IL , a widow, by 1865 State Census. David was her only brother--this line daughtered out--in Texas. Thanks for any insight you might have, Jan Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: <KathieMir@aol.com> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] 1880 Defective Schedule > Can you please send me your 2 great grandfathers name and I will look for > him. > > Many times these special schedules are at the end of the County census. > I > think only people who were in Institutions are on the Defective, > Dependent > and Delinquent 1880 Schedules called DDD Schedule. Note, these special > schedules have information on the top and bottom of the page - so look at > the > whole page even if you find the name on the top half. > > > Kathie Mirabella > > > In a message dated 10/16/2009 2:04:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > illinimom2@gmail.com writes: > > I have a copy of the 1880 census record for my Gr-gr-grandfather. One of > his > son's is marked as 'Idiotic'. I just found this info... > > *" If you have discovered such an entry in a family you locate in the > 1880 > census, you will then want to find the corresponding entry in the > Defective > Schedules."* > > > Does anyone know where I can locate a copy of the 1880 Defective > Schedule...aka the 1880 3D schedule or 1880 Defective, Dependent and > Delinquint Classes? > > > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message