Hi Jan, You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed ON the email. Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. Gloria At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >Dear Gloria: >Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that source >and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both on >line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a week >at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining >skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- >but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just >keeps >popping up regardless. > >I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** areas >which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my >own >research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be >responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline >Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. >I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. > >In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that those >familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with this >as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. >For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so grateful. >I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I >have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations >here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >is message. > >Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! > >Thanks for your interest, >Jan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I > > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > > helps > > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > > Allen's > > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > > this > > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to > > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > All, > > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > > between > > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are > > possible, still have not been able to find > > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents > > or relatives--probably relatives. > > > > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames > > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > > correctly on each subsequent census. > > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > > > > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I > > ask to be copied as well. > > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case > > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. > > > > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's > > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > > Jan in California. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > > > > >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > >> also. > >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > >> On Behalf Of G Frazier > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > >> > >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > >> Uriah or Eliza. > >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. > >> Thank > >> you. > >> Gloria > >> ========= > >> Annie wrote: > >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > >> 512-773-8056" > >> > >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message