I really don't want it to go out to the complete list because I don't have permission from some who gave me information. I would prefer it go to you, and you can use the information appropriately. Can I mail it to the Society address in care of you? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Sending your family info to the list would be great but it would have to > be > ON an email. Rootsweb will not allow attachments to go to any rootsweb > list. > > Gloria > <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> > > At 08:09 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >>That's probably a good thing. I thought about that after I sent it--would >>go to all in the list. >> >>But I don't have your email or your snail address :-)) >>Jan >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "G Frazier" <macoupincounty@earthlink.net> >>To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:46 PM >>Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> > Hi Jan, >> > >> > You can't send attachments on the maillist and I didn't see it printed >> > ON >> > the email. >> > >> > Send it to me personally. Thanks. I appreciate the information. >> > >> > Gloria >> > >> > At 11:37 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote: >> >>Dear Gloria: >> >>Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that >> >>source >> >>and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for >> >>travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the >> >>Allen's--both >> >>on >> >>line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a >> >>week >> >>at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but >> >>gaining >> >>skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more >> >>Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several >> >>occasions -- >> >>but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it >> >>just >> >>keeps >> >>popping up regardless. >> >> >> >>I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest >> >>Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** >> >>areas >> >>which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any >> >>documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in >> >>my >> >>own >> >>research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to >> >>be >> >>responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem >> >>strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that >> >>Eveline >> >>Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit >> >>are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is >> >>big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that >> >>Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as >> >>mysterious. >> >>I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are >> >>different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair >> >>and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so >> >>silently. >> >> >> >>In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that >> >>those >> >>familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will >> >>provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with >> >>this >> >>as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the >> >>reason. >> >>For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, >> >>responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so >> >>grateful. >> >>I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because >> >>I >> >>have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN >> >>and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through >> >>Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd >> >>generations >> >>here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to >> >>is message. >> >> >> >>Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. >> >>By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! >> >> >> >>Thanks for your interest, >> >>Jan >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >>To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM >> >>Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to >> >> > Jan. I >> >> > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have >> >> > been >> >> > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have >> >> > such a >> >> > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how >> >> > everyone >> >> > helps >> >> > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in >> >> > this >> >> > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my >> >> > Allen's >> >> > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a >> >> > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been >> >> > doing >> >> > this >> >> > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find >> >> > clues >> >> > to >> >> > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM >> >> > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com >> >> > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > All, >> >> > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location >> >> > between >> >> > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. >> >> > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that >> >> > are >> >> > possible, still have not been able to find >> >> > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their >> >> > parents >> >> > or relatives--probably relatives. >> >> > >> >> > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both >> >> > surnames >> >> > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to >> >> > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave >> >> > correctly on each subsequent census. >> >> > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY >> >> > >> >> > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, >> >> > may I >> >> > ask to be copied as well. >> >> > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the >> >> > case >> >> > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in >> >> > advance. >> >> > >> >> > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, >> >> > it's >> >> > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! >> >> > Jan in California. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> >> >> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research >> >> >> page >> >> >> also. >> >> >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you >> >> >> please >> >> >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> >> >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> >> >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> >> >> >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton >> >> >> Bradley's >> >> >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info >> >> >> about >> >> >> Uriah or Eliza. >> >> >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information >> >> >> on >> >> >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist >> >> >> because >> >> >> if >> >> >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your >> >> >> msg. >> >> >> Thank >> >> >> you. >> >> >> Gloria >> >> >> ========= >> >> >> Annie wrote: >> >> >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family >> >> >> (Eliza >> >> >> Jane >> >> >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and >> >> >> Apple >> >> >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the >> >> >> mid >> >> >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> >> >> 512-773-8056" >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes >> >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >> >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> >> the >> >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >>http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message