All, I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location between Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are possible, still have not been able to find the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents or relatives--probably relatives. One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave correctly on each subsequent census. It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I ask to be copied as well. I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! Jan in California. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > also. > I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of G Frazier > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > Uriah or Eliza. > I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. Thank > you. > Gloria > ========= > Annie wrote: > "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > 512-773-8056" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone helps each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my Allen's and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing this for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman All, I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location between Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are possible, still have not been able to find the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents or relatives--probably relatives. One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave correctly on each subsequent census. It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I ask to be copied as well. I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! Jan in California. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page > also. > I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please > provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of G Frazier > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM > To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's > Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about > Uriah or Eliza. > I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on > these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if > you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. Thank > you. > Gloria > ========= > Annie wrote: > "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane > Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple > Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid > 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com > 512-773-8056" > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at > http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Gloria: Every thing you say is right, Jenny. We are lucky to still have that source and that dedication. Until my husband's health halted my time for travel, my daughter and I have spent LOTS of time with the Allen's--both on line and in Salt Lake City. We used to go together with a group for a week at the Library. We were more novice genealogists at the time, but gaining skills rapidly. She finally threw up her hands and declared "no more Allen's", simply on sheer frustration. I have too on several occasions -- but I'm too much of an optimist to toss--I do bury, however--but it just keeps popping up regardless. I am sending Gloria a 4 page print-out of my research on my 2 earliest Allen generations. It is all my own research except for the noted ** areas which were sent to me. Because none of that information came with any documentation, I used lower case and asterisks to differentiate it in my own research. I've since lost contact with the donor, but I don't want to be responsible for passing information without permission. It does seem strange that with all the Allen's reposing in Macoupin County that Eveline Hall Allen's death record cannot be found, though her grave and obit are available. I so much need to know her parentage, because Hall is big in the area as well as Allen. She just pops from nowhere into that Allen household in 1850 and her death is just as silent and as mysterious. I have a photo that I think is surely Eveline, because the features are different than the Allen likenesses I've seen--and the time frame, hair and clothing are appropriate. It's bizarre to be IN then OUT so silently. In sending this, I'm hoping that within, there is a trigger-clue that those familiar with both the local Genie Society and County repository will provide an extra boost. Daughter and I have been fooling around with this as you can see for at least 10 years--off site. Maybe that's the reason. For a while Lula V. was helping me --she was my "bird-dog" on scene, responsible for both gravestone photo and obit, for which I am so grateful. I hope there's a kernel in it. I've done a lot of IL research because I have 3 Illinois Prairie Pioneer surnames: Joel BACON, Seth CHIPMAN and Henry MILLER. From James' sons, we have everything through Eveline's daughter Libby to the present. I only include 2nd generations here, however. I'm not good at forwarding, so I will copy and paste to is message. Report program won't permit copy/paste so I'm trying--export to Adobe. By George, I THINK I Have It. You'll be the first to know! Thanks for your interest, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> To: "'Jan Miller'" <jgrellim@sbcglobal.net>; <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: RE: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > Gail, Thank you very much for the information and I will forward to Jan. I > just joined the list serve this last month and I personally have been > extremely impressed and I think you all are very blessed to have such a > great group of people who are so kind and "neighborly" on how everyone > helps > each other out. I especially find the Macoupin group as great in this > respect. Jan, I will check to see if I can see any connection to my > Allen's > and see if I can find any relationship. And I don't think you are a > buttinski but only try to be a good researcher. I have only been doing > this > for about 2-3 yrs but one thing I have learned is that you find clues to > some piece of your tree in the weirdest places. Jenny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Miller [mailto:jgrellim@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:04 AM > To: ilmacoup@rootsweb.com > Cc: jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > All, > I am interested in this surname, this time period and this location > between > Apple and Macoupin Creeks also. > I have a James and Delia [Davis] Allen and with all the Allen's that are > possible, still have not been able to find > the exact date of James and Delia's arrival in the county, their parents > or relatives--probably relatives. > > One of their 2 sons was my husband's great grandfather, but both surnames > are so popular --as is the common given name--it is very hard to > sort, and my best information is James' birth date, which he gave > correctly on each subsequent census. > It was April 13, 1813 -- near Louisville, KY > > If this bears any similarity to the information you're referring to, may I > ask to be copied as well. > I don't think"buttinsky"s are very considerate generally, but in the case > of genealogy, maybe that can be softened a little? I apologize in advance. > > I have filed my Allen data in the back of the cabinet so many times, it's > getting frowsy. Thanks in advance! > Jan in California. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jenny burgin" <jenny.burgin@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ilmacoup@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman > > >> Gloria, I am also interested in Littleton Bradley Allen research page >> also. >> I have an Emily Allen daughter to Thomas Davis Allen. Could you please >> provide me the information on this page. Jenny Burgin >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ilmacoup-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of G Frazier >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 PM >> To: ILMACOUP@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ILMACOUP] Surnames Allen and Coffman >> >> I gave Annie general information about the area and Littleton Bradley's >> Allen research page she requested but which didn't have any info about >> Uriah or Eliza. >> I am assuming Annie isn't on this maillist. If you have information on >> these people, PLEASE copy Annie if you reply to this maillist because if >> you only reply to this maillist, Annie won't get a copy of your msg. >> Thank >> you. >> Gloria >> ========= >> Annie wrote: >> "I am looking for information on Uriah Rocky Allen and family (Eliza Jane >> Coffman his wife) who resided on a farm between the Macoupin and Apple >> Creeks. Please tell me a little about the area, especially in the mid >> 1800's. Thank you! Annie O'Leary annieol@stx.rr.com >> 512-773-8056" >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Check out Macoupin County ILGenWeb page at >> http://www.macoupinctygenealogy.org/. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILMACOUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >