Good Maocupin twp/sect/range map here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/images/macoupin.jpg I have the cem books for townships: Scottville North Palmyra North Otter Virden Girard Barr South Palmyra South Otter Nilwood Western Mound Bird Carlinville Shaws Point Chesterfield Polk Brushy Mound Honey Point Hilyard Shipman ----------------- No help on Ezekial. I checked the probate records index thru 1867 and no Springer at all. In Carlinville Twp, Section 34, Mayfield Memorial Cem May Springer Myers 1869-1954 (no mon/day) Section F of the Cem Rest of twps for Macoupin I think I have most but may be missing a few as the gen soc aren't finished, I think. These twps: Gillespie Cahokia Brighton Bunker Hill Dorchester Mt. Olive Staunton ------------------ Gillespie City Cem which is in Cahokia twp, I found: Springer Carl 1879-1945 w/Marie Pauline d/o John Kurr 2 Feb 1883-4 Mar 1965 Herman 9 Feb 1883-11 Jul 1949 w/Olga (Katzmarek) 14 May 1885-20 Feb 1941 Lena d/o H & O Aug 1885-12 Jul 1964 (these may be no kin, if the others moved to IA I haven't cked the other cem books, yet, for all the southern twps I have. Yep, in the 1840's, lucky to find a marked grave. Having/owning land tho', they ought to had enough money for a tombstone if they still lived there. If they owned land in Macoupin, the deeds ought to be at Macoupin County courthouse. Might need to hire a pro researcher for that. If the land was sold before the others trekked to IA, the old ones might have gone, too. Section 3 of North Palmyra is bordering Morgan Co so you might need to look in Morgan. Sorry to not be much help. I am copying the Macoupin list to see if they might have something for you. Gloria At 06:05 PM 11/14/99 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Gloria........ >Thank you so much for responding. > >I realised just after I sent that query that I had failed to place a Twnship >and Range. >There were several purchases made in the period bet 1827 -1839. Most were >in North Palmyra, 12N 08W, sect 3. Two others were made in North Otter >Township, 12N 07W sec 34. > >I've checked over the USgenweb site for Macoupin Co. IL, but have not found >a likely cemetery location for their burial listed. Since they would have >been bur. over 160 years ago, it's not likely there would have been an >established cem.? > >They were of Baptist faith, if that helps....... >Pam > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gloria Frazier <glofra@townsqr.com> >To: Pam Ingle <pingle@viagrafix.net> >Date: Sunday, November 14, 1999 5:45 PM >Subject: Re: Cemetary LOOKUP? > > >>Might be easier to check if you knew the township where section 3 >>and 35 are. Those sections are in most townships so got 30 plus >>townships with those numbered sections. The range number and >>township number would put coordinates on the township then would be >>easier to start working cemeteries in then out from the twp. >> >>Thanks. Try to get that and I will then forward to maillist while I >>try looking too. >> >>Gloria >> >> >>At 02:57 PM 11/14/99 -0600, you wrote: >>>Hello, >>>I hate to ask for a lookup, but I'm at a brick wall. I've traced my >>>ancestor, Ezekiel Springer and his wife Rebecca to Macoupin Co. >>IL, ca 1830. >>>They were found on the 1830 census, but would have been in their >>60s at that >>>time. Their son Ezekiel Springer (II) appears on the 1840 and >>1850 census, >>>but moved to Iowa by 1860. >>> >>>Land Records indicate that he purchased land in section 3 and in >>section 35. >>>Ezekiel (I) was my 6great grandfather, and moved to Macoupin IL from >>>Monroe/Barren Co. KY in the late 1820s. His time of death was >>likely in >>>the mid to late 1830s. His son John died in KY ca. 1815, and my >>line went >>>on to TN,AR, OK. >>> >>>Please forward this message to anyone that could be of assistance. >> I am >>>willing to reimburse them for their time and effort if needed. >>> >>>Best wishes, >>>Pam Ingle