Thank you so much for the help. Both of you. I did not have the 1860 census, nor do I have the 1870 if you do, would you look for both Seaton and Clifton? The 14 year old John, and the Zarilda with Lydia Seaton are the Cliftons! Is there a cemetery book for Macoupin County that might tell where the Seatons, John & Lydia are buried, or if Benjamin & Lydia Clifton are buried there? I'm begining to think the Cliftons took William, and left the two others behind! Thank you very much for all your help. Faith