midwest.net is starting to bounce big time. It was erratic. But now beginning to be more and more. Michelle on Marion maillist who was helping cem lookups is on midwest. Macoupin Gen Soc Mary McKenzie and Cindy Leonard use midwest and they are bouncing at times. If any of you can pass the following on by phone calls, etc, let midwest users know. I tried to send the following to a bunch of midwest users and all bounced. To midwest users: You all may know what the problem is but if it is something the ISP doesn't really know or care about and you want to keep the service from them, I would be writing an email/calling on phone/stopping by their office and telling them about the problems. They may need to just put on more lines and contacting them will encourage them to do that. If you know other midwest users, I would try to contact them and have them contact the ISP, too. And, if nothing helps, you all may have to start looking for another ISP. ohhh, yuk... As long as they don't get many complaints, they are making money at your frustration. Putting on more lines does cost.... Gloria